momopi wrote:gmm567 wrote:
Improve yourself dude...see how much that works for you and then get back to me.
Worked pretty well for me. My education gave me a financially rewarding career for the last 15 years, it provided the means for me to visit/vacation in 8 or 9 countries abroad. Canada, Mexico, Japan, Taiwan, China, Malaysia, Singapore, Philippines, etc I took my ex-GF to Beijing to climb the Great Wall of China couple years back and eat BBQ duck at wangfujing.
I'm in Taiwan right now and the locals value education. My master's degree scores points with women and their friends and family. When I visit girls I get great hospitality, the parents take me out to eat and gives me gifts of local produce when I leave. The two years in grad school was time well spent.
However, I should also note that I look for middle class or better girls with good family and education background. My values and goals may differ from others here, and the girls I chase in US and abroad are usually not easy lays. If a man is lookng for equick & easy sex with sexy women in "come f*ck me" shoes, then he is looking for a different target or market segment.
W: From hanging out with Momopi and meeting some of his dates and female friends, I can definitely vouch that he goes for different types of women than I have and plays a different type of game with different rules. Thus I can shed some light on this to help give you all a broader perspective.
At this point in his life, he is dating Asian women both in the US and Taiwan that are not the type that me and most of the guys on this forum go for. Plus they are from a different culture with different social rules and styles that do not fit into what I describe on this site about foreign dating.
For example, as you know, my style is direct and upfront, as you saw in my videos. I like to chat up women in public and tell them "Excuse me, you're very attractive. I'd like to meet you." That approach works well in Russia and much of Europe, as I claimed long ago, because it fits into the culture there. In those countries, the society is more open, direct and upfront, and there is more of an "anything goes" type of attitude than there is in conservative countries. And likewise, it works well in the Philippines too.
But not in Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong or Singapore, where the values are much more conservative and people are more picky. There, women do not like direct approach styles. That is considered rude, out of tune, out of vibe, and not part of the flow of things.
Also, they do not meet a man and automatically put them in the "dating" or "friends category". They put ALL men they meet into the friends category first, and then evaluate them from there, slowly on. That is their custom and they do this without thinking about it. Plus, many women in those countries are simply not outgoing with men and don't like meeting them, only with other women.
In other words, it's not exactly an "open culture". Taiwanese people will admit to this and some are proud to not be open, because that is not considered a good or positive trait to them.
Nevertheless, to be successful in different countries, one has to learn to ADAPT. And momopi explained to me by email the proper way to approach women in Taiwan that fits into their social style. When I tried it, it worked, even though it didn't exactly get the results I wanted. But it worked in getting them to open up and establish an acquaintance with them, in a more "natural way".
Here is what he taught me in a nutshell:
First, you ask an innocent question such as directions, a good place to eat or visit, etc. Then you ask a few follow up open ended questions (not yes or no ones) and then gauge their response. If they are interested in getting to know you, they will in turn ask you a few questions of their own, such as where you're from, how long you've been here, why you're here, etc. If not, and they just brush you off, then you move on to the next one. Then you when you discover what you have in common, you can then focus on those areas and expand them. In momopi's case, he likes talking about food, cooking and culinary arts, which many Taiwanese women like as well. And with his vast knowledge in that area, he is able to impress a lot of Asian women who are into that. So it not only earns him points with them, but develops a natural comfort zone and friendship basis as well. And since he is well educated, a professional, and has a solid career, they like that as well since the Chinese value practical things and judge people by them. They use a meritocracy system in evaluating others. Anyhow, this allows you to create a good rapport or good mood and energy with them. Once that develops they get closer to you by online chat over months and eventually the dates come naturally.
Of course, you have to have a lot of patience to pursue this type of process. But the point is, it's momopi's style and it's the Taiwanese women's style as well. And it fits into their culture. That's why it works for him.
But as for me, it's not my natural style. But when I use it, I do get them to open up more naturally within their comfort zone. So I guess in a sense, it's a form of Zen in that this approach fits into naturally within the flow of things in Taiwan, and thus is more effective since you are flowing within the current rather than trying to fight it.
Also, so far the types of Taiwanese women I've gotten along with tend to be open minded traveler types like me, not the mainstream types.
So in conclusion, I'd have to say that though this approach works more here, it doesn't necessarily get me what I want, at least not right away. Plus, Chinese women tend to be more picky about little things, esp compared to Filipinas, so I might not measure up in a lot of ways, since I do not do well in a meritocracy system in a first or second world country. TW women do not live for the moment and follow their whims or enjoy dating lots of guys for fun. They usually only date those whom they are interested in marrying eventually.
The bottom line is that it's not an easy system with fast results and fast lays. So it isn't going to provide what me and a lot of guys like me want, which is action with lots of hot women in a short amount of time. For that, there are other countries that are better.
But momopi isn't looking for that, as he explained. He himself is more picky than me, and does not go for any hot looking girls with nice legs like I do.
Some people are more like him, and others are more like me. People are different.
But he is happy with his style and results, so that's what matters to him. If this isn't your style, then what he says probably won't apply to you. Momopi is a very practical person who makes sense, but not necessarily open minded toward those who are different or think differently. He seeks to offer practical solutions, not to delve into the minds of others or try to understand them like a psychologist or philosopher does.
So I think you should take all this into account when trying to understand where he's coming from, and where I'm coming from, so that you see the big picture and understand the differences. Like I said before, you gotta see the multiple factors involved, not just a blanket statement or theory that applies to everything.