Wife Requirements

[Dragon]

I'm getting tired of men not being practical with their marriage partners. Call me whatever, but you should never marry on the sole basis of "love." That will get tired quick. The potential wife should be able to offer practical skills and have a certain demeanor. Being hot should never be the sole qualification.

1) Can she cook, clean, and looks like she can take care of herself? A lot of women these days can't even boil water or clean up after themselves.

2) Does she have a nurturing attitude towards you or children that she meets? Does she try to care for you when your sick? Being friendly and smiling a lot doesn't qualify. Her whole personality should be leaning towards "motherly."

There is girlfriend material (f**k partner) and then there is wife material (mother of your kids). The two are not related. Choose carefully.

[ChosenTraveler]

In comportment with what you said( which are the rudimentary components of a stable relationship), I'll add:

1) Has to be able to cook, clean, knows her place and doesn't challenge the male's authority.

2) Must be willing to do whatever it takes to sexually please her man.

3) Must work a lower job than her man( for the man's job is to provide, and a "career" woman only undermines a man's progress and promotes male indolency).

4) Must be open to the concept of polygamy.

5) Must have no male friends

6) Must be young

More to come.

[Andrewww]

I don't agree with 3) Must work a lower job than her man. She can work whatever she likes, I don't care as long as family comes first. If she talks daily about her career and her job then it's clear that her mind and spirit is elsewhere.

[ChosenTraveler]

I don't agree with 3) Must work a lower job than her man. She can work whatever she likes, I don't care as long as family comes first. If she talks daily about her career and her job then it's clear that her mind and spirit is elsewhere.

From experience, both personal and vicarious, I've found that a woman has to be in an inferior position to her man. This is hence why Tom Leykis encourages men to "strive high, stay hungry and don't settle", meaning that a man ought to become the greatest in his field; something that his woman, and the children he creates with that woman can revere.

Women are meant to be domestic, not in corporate/customer based fields. They aren't meant to be competitors, they are meant to submit to a strong man( that man must be strong physically, mentally etc.). Therefore, though I don't value a woman working, if she is to work, it should be in something that pales in comparison to her man, for the man is the epicenter of the relationship/family.

[Andrewww]

You're saying that I should be some type of vice president with the looks Brad Pitt and that even a dumb secretary should expect no less than a perfect man. That pretty much sums up the North American dating scene and these types of unrealistic expectations are the reason why the divorce rate is so high.
Career should be irrelevant in a marriage. What happens if you get cripped in an accident ? If your wife married you because of your career then you're screwed.

[ChosenTraveler]

You're saying that a man should be some type of vice president with the looks Brad Pitt and that even a dumb secretary should expect no less than a perfect man.

I thought this type of unrealistic expectations are the reason why the divorce rate is so high.

Not at all. What I'm saying is that a man should strive to be the best at whatever position he chooses, and his woman should follow his lead. Many of us bemoan women and how this society socializes them, but we never examine our end of the situation: Men must accept the fact that women are like children. They are attentive to the surface, materialistic things, and once you break those barriers( which all women have to a degree), you are able to break into an actual relationship.

It's not unrealistic for a man to become wealthy, as it isn't unrealistic for a man to demand that his woman not work. Women aren't supposed to be the choosers, men are, and if a man can't understand that his woman is inferior to him, then he's doomed to never understand the complexities of a relationship.

Multiple men, even men on this site, are afraid to demand exactly what they want out of their women. If a man is handling a household with efficiency, he's in every right to demand that his wife not drive, works a lower job and is relegated to household duties. Do the wealthiest men deserve the most beautiful women? Yes. For he has proven himself able, and he's in a position to have her because he worked hard enough for her. When you've accomplished in life, you control your life.

[ChosenTraveler]

Career is very much involved in a marriage, particularly on a man's part, if a man( especially one that is to practice polygamy), is to care for his family/sustain his relational status.

All women marry for a superficial reason, with some being more superficial than others.

[Jester]

This is a good thread, reading with interest.

Generally I would like to see a woman interested in or having talents that are consistent with being a young mother. Homemaking, but also things she can do part-time from home.

One need women have is to keep busy.

After kids are older, no problem with her going for a fulltime (local) job if she likes it and is the type who can handle the pressure.

If it's not necessary for her to work, or she can't work due to wher we live, kids, whatever, I will encourage volunteer stuff within reason. the equivalent of women doing laundry together in some countries.

[Dragon]

In comportment with what you said( which are the rudimentary components of a stable relationship), I'll add:

1) Has to be able to cook, clean, knows her place and doesn't challenge the male's authority.

2) Must be willing to do whatever it takes to sexually please her man.

3) Must work a lower job than her man( for the man's job is to provide, and a "career" woman only undermines a man's progress and promotes male indolency).

4) Must be open to the concept of polygamy.

5) Must have no male friends

6) Must be young

More to come.

1) Agreed.

2) Disagree. There should be limits. A girl should have the right to not be tied up and whipped with chains.

3) Agreed.

4) Disagree. Unless you're extremely wealthy, this is a pipe dream.

5) Agreed.

6) Super agreed.

[Dragon]

I don't agree with 3) Must work a lower job than her man. She can work whatever she likes, I don't care as long as family comes first. If she talks daily about her career and her job then it's clear that her mind and spirit is elsewhere.

The default indicator of female attraction is a man's socioeconomic status. This includes wealth and social status. In general, women prefer to MARRY UP when they can. Women will often marry a man equal to her in socioeconomic status if there are no available bachelors of higher status. Women rarely marry down. It doesn't matter if the woman has money, she will still desire to marry up. This is not necessarily because she needs the man's money, but because she is attracted to a man with more money, power, and status. It is embedded in her genetic behavior. The manosphere and PUA communities call this hypergamy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergamy

[WPO]

Requirements:

Mind of her own
smart
intellectual
objective
honest
loyal
courteous
polite
warm
caring
moralistic
foreign
european accent
long beautiful (blonde or red) hair
petite (ideal but not mandatory)
gorgeous
white skin
pink pouty lips
perfectly shaven
long pink lips
juicy cheeks
long/slender/pink suckable toes
physically fit
curvacous
family values
trusting
trustworthy
romantic
good cook (no junk food whatsoever)
loves to work out
eats healthy
enjoys reading (viable/valuable information)
enjoys the arts
enjoys dancing
admires the little things in life
loves flowers
amorous
loves to laugh
down to earth
feminine
welcomes me home with a hug and kisses on my face
anytime anyplace!!!!!!!!!!!
hates soap operas
appreciative
detests badboys/thugs/jerks/a$$holes
won't act as if the world comes to an end if you forget an anniversary

[Dragon]

Requirements:

Mind of her own
smart
intellectual
objective
honest
loyal
courteous
polite
warm
caring
moralistic
foreign
european accent
long beautiful (blonde or red) hair
petite (ideal but not mandatory)
gorgeous
white skin
pink pouty lips
perfectly shaven
long pink lips
juicy cheeks
long/slender/pink suckable toes
physically fit
curvacous
family values
trusting
trustworthy
romantic
good cook (no junk food whatsoever)
loves to work out
eats healthy
enjoys reading (viable/valuable information)
enjoys the arts
enjoys dancing
admires the little things in life
loves flowers
amorous
loves to laugh
down to earth
feminine
welcomes me home with a hug and kisses on my face
anytime anyplace!!!!!!!!!!!
hates soap operas
appreciative
detests badboys/thugs/jerks/a$$holes
won't act as if the world comes to an end if you forget an anniversary

Sorry bro but this is sounds like something a mangina (or Winston) would say. A woman with your requirements only exists in wet dreams. Completely unrealistic and wishy washy. Men need to stop being hopeless romantics and become practical.

[Taco]

I'm getting tired of men not being practical with their marriage partners. Call me whatever, but you should never marry on the sole basis of "love." That will get tired quick. The potential wife should be able to offer practical skills and have a certain demeanor. Being hot should never be the sole qualification.

1) Can she cook, clean, and looks like she can take care of herself? A lot of women these days can't even boil water or clean up after themselves.

2) Does she have a nurturing attitude towards you or children that she meets? Does she try to care for you when your sick? Being friendly and smiling a lot doesn't qualify. Her whole personality should be leaning towards "motherly."

There is girlfriend material (f**k partner) and then there is wife material (mother of your kids). The two are not related. Choose carefully.

Your well on your way to finding a good wife. Basically, you need a woman with good life skills, can work her ass off and is committed to you no matter what happens. I just got married myself a few months ago my wife is exactly what I needed. I've had women that were very interested in me that are better looking than her(my wife) and I turned them down. Women that are wife material never screw you over, girlfriends will screw you over and then act like its no big deal.

[Exod]

I'm not interested in a wife, but I if I had to choose one, then this is my list.

1 - Doesn't complain, hate, snark, bring me down with sarcastic remarks. She's a peaceful, nurturing woman satisfied with her lot in life. Will welcome more, but won't desperately seek it or nag me for it all the time.
2 - She's responsible with money, knows its meaning and respects it. Not completely close-fisted and certainly not on the miserly side, but a bit of a penny-pincher, especially when it comes to superfluous, consumerist things. She would actually get a bit angry if I spent too much money on her.
3 - Not fickle... for a woman. Has her ups and downs but is able to maintain a sense of internal balance. She's fairly grounded in reality. Doesn't fall for glitz and glitter and has a decent BS-detector.
4 - She has a good relationship with her family.
5 - Has homemaking skills.
6 - She's not a militant Liberal or Leftie, feminist, careerist, any -ist, in fact. But also not a complete nihilist without any sense of purpose. I'm not the least bit religious but I don't care if she is (as long as she understands I'm not to be "converted".) In fact, I might even prefer it, if her religion has positive effects on her behavior.
7 - Attractive. Not fat, slender body type. You can tell she won't balloon out.
8 - 10, 15, 20 years younger than me. I'm not interested in having a fat, wrinkled whale for a wife. We all know the stories of 60-year-old men who wake up in the morning and almost literally cannot recognize the surly manatee snoring beside them.
9 - I'm fine if she wants to stay home, as long as she doesn't let herself go and pulls her own weight [see: 5]
10 - Her habits and goals and points of view match mine or are at least perfectly compatible with mine. It's easier to give the relationship a direction if our paths coincide.

They're very general. I don't talk much about appearance because it's of secondary importance in this context. Using the usual 1-10 scale, I'd be satisfied with a 7, perhaps 7.5. The higher you go, the more peace of mind you'll lose. In the end you want someone who's pleasant to the eyes and you can actually live with.

[have2fly]

I'm not interested in a wife, but I if I had to choose one, then this is my list.

1 - Doesn't complain, hate, snark, bring me down with sarcastic remarks. She's a peaceful, nurturing woman satisfied with her lot in life. Will welcome more, but won't desperately seek it or nag me for it all the time.
2 - She's responsible with money, knows its meaning and respects it. Not completely close-fisted and certainly not on the miserly side, but a bit of a penny-pincher, especially when it comes to superfluous, consumerist things. She would actually get a bit angry if I spent too much money on her.
3 - Not fickle... for a woman. Has her ups and downs but is able to maintain a sense of internal balance. She's fairly grounded in reality. Doesn't fall for glitz and glitter and has a decent BS-detector.
4 - She has a good relationship with her family.
5 - Has homemaking skills.
6 - She's not a militant Liberal or Leftie, feminist, careerist, any -ist, in fact. But also not a complete nihilist without any sense of purpose. I'm not the least bit religious but I don't care if she is (as long as she understands I'm not to be "converted".) In fact, I might even prefer it, if her religion has positive effects on her behavior.
7 - Attractive. Not fat, slender body type. You can tell she won't balloon out.
8 - 10, 15, 20 years younger than me. I'm not interested in having a fat, wrinkled whale for a wife. We all know the stories of 60-year-old men who wake up in the morning and almost literally cannot recognize the surly manatee snoring beside them.
9 - I'm fine if she wants to stay home, as long as she doesn't let herself go and pulls her own weight [see: 5]
10 - Her habits and goals and points of view match mine or are at least perfectly compatible with mine. It's easier to give the relationship a direction if our paths coincide.

They're very general. I don't talk much about appearance because it's of secondary importance in this context. Using the usual 1-10 scale, I'd be satisfied with a 7, perhaps 7.5. The higher you go, the more peace of mind you'll lose. In the end you want someone who's pleasant to the eyes and you can actually live with.

Great points, I think your comment is the best. I think the same way, I need someone pretty enough I can actually LIVE WITH. Being compatible takes more than having sex and making her clean your house. Things just have to be right about so many little details, way of thinking, needs and wishes in life and whether she wants to go with your lifestyle and choose the same life path you.