Hate Mail to HA from Rebekah Hiller (Western woman)

[Winston]

Check out this hate mail I received from a Western woman claiming to live overseas named Rebekah Hiller. Man she has some nerve. Rather than proving us wrong, doesn't her attitude confirm everything we say?

"Dear Winston,

I would like to clarify a few things here. You promote your website as a site for people who wish to know the advantages of living abroad. I think that is incorrect, and you should be more specific: this is a website for MEN who feel entitled to be adored by women, who may want to know about the advantages of moving overseas.

I am currently living on the other side of the world from my country of origin, and after travelling to many many countries, I have not found a single shred of truth in your \'comparison\' list. Neither have any of my (male) American friends who have lived and travelled abroad.

This entire website is nothing but an excuse for men to complain that women do not like them. Claiming that women are too picky? What a ridiculous statement! Women do not OWE men companionship. Women do not owe men their time, or their attention. Women the world over are actually people, not just some commodity to be searched out and used. You want \'sweet and affectionate\'? Going abroad with the shitty attitudes expressed here are not going to help you, not one single bit. Most women in Europe and Australia are actually more self assured and confident than American women, meaning they are much less likely to tolerate the rubbish promoted on this site.

You are not even able to deny the blatant sexism expressed here! In the list of reasons to move abroad, it mentions the huge obesity rate in America. It goes on to state that that makes finding an attractive WOMAN hard. Newsflash, sunshine, MEN are obese too! Plenty of them. I think it\'s laughable that you would even consider publishing tripe like this. Classic example of arrogant Americans feeling entitled. That entire list was nothing but a projection of the author\'s own problems. HE is the entitled and selfish one.

Before you write me off as one of those \'man haters\' you\'re so fond of mentioning, I am married to a wonderful man. He finds this website as detestable as I do. He was the one who found it and brought it to my attention, while calling it disgusting and ludicrous.

I know you\'ll take none of this on board, as you have already displayed your blatant disregard for actual facts (finding facts here is like looking for a needle in a haystack) has already been made clear, and my pointing them out will probably make no difference to you.

Either way, I thought it necessary that a sane, non-american, non-asshole should point out that your site, and everything on it is an abomination. Go back to your cave, caveman.

Kind regards,
Rebekah Hiller"

Here is my logical response to her:

"Hi Rebekah,
Thanks for your feedback. Actually you are wrong on many counts. Everything I say on my site is backed up by real life experience and evidence from research. You have not demonstrated any of my claims and observations to be incorrect. If anything, your attitude toward men back up what I say about how hard and unfeminine Western women are to deal with. You are just a Western woman with an opinion that is not backed by reason, facts or logic. You are the kind of woman who argues just for the sake of arguing, without valid points. To you, truth is relative. Truth is what the majority say and what your friends say. You are the furthest thing from authentic or down to earth or freethinking. You are programmed with the ideals of feminism designed to destroy society from within, and you don't even know it.

Tell me this: If I'm wrong then...

- How come 99.99 percent of the email I receive about Happier Abroad are from people who agree with my observations and discoveries and love my site? You are one of the exceptions. Take a look at my fan mail archive:
http://www.happierabroad.com/FanMail.htm
- How come I have so many testimonials, both offline and online, that validate and confirm my claims on my site? Come into my forum if you want and ask the guys there. Or invite your husband to. Maybe he's just humoring you, or he's a brainwashed mangina. Check out all these real testimonials, most of which are sourced:
http://www.happierabroad.com/testimonials.php
- Why are so many people I know, including myself, Happier Abroad? Remember we live overseas and experience women who are FAR BETTER than the likes of you and your kind. So we have lived it first hand. Women overseas are better and treat men better. Nothing you say changes that. We are living proof and have experienced it. Your denial changes nothing.
- How come 99.99 percent of guys I know who have dated overseas said they will never go back to dating in America again?
- How come America's leading psychologists such as Dr. Laura AGREE with some of our claims? See my friend Steve's research report here:
http://www.happierabroad.com/Research.htm

FYI, Yes, it is BAD thing for women to be too picky. Think about it. If most women are only going for the top 10 percent of guys, then what can the rest of the guys who are unwanted do? What about our need for love, romance and sex? What do you suggest we do? You overlook that and act as if a man's needs are not important. What kind of human being are you? So it's ok for women not to need men, but there is something wrong if men need women? WTF?

The important thing here is that you have NO SOLUTION for this epidemic of loneliness and datelessness in America. I do. You don't. See this pamphlet I wrote that explains why Global Dating is the only real solution to the male loneliness epidemic in America. It makes sense. Most women I've showed it to agree with it too.

http://www.happierabroad.com/GlobalDatingSolution.pdf

Why don't you and your husband come to my forum and discuss it there with my group of freethinkers and intellectuals who do not fear truth or political correctness like your kind do?

Mind if I post your letter in my forum so others can see what kind of people are still out there?

Hope you wake up to reality.

Winston"

[Tsar]

She's another typical Western, feminist, man-hating woman.

Deciphering her letter I see that she:

1. Is feminist
2. Is against traditional gender roles (thinks we're sexist. Sexism is another way for people to shame Traditionalists who support gender roles).
3. Is married to a magina
4. Has an entitlement attitude
5. Using many shaming tactics (which won't work on us here on HappierAbroad, because we can't be shamed)
6. Hates the truth
7. She believes we think of women as commodities which is a fallacy. We think of women as people, it's the bad boys and thugs that think of women as commodities to be used (and usually discarded). Once again she ignores the facts.
8. Our attitudes are honest and we are expressing the true facts, observations, and discussing our experiences. It's not censored by politically correctness, so she isn't happy. Translation: She believes in censorship and politically correctness.
9. Women are too picky. She is one of the brainwashed Western Women too self-absorbed and too ignorant about reality.
10. We're not selfish or entitled. Translation: She believes we should settle for landwhales, Americunts, Western whores, masculine women, tomboys, non-affectionate careerists, or fuglies (assuming they aren't picky themselves). We're not selfish or entitled. We know what we deserve and we won't accept those undesirable Western Women.

Overall it just goes to prove everything we discuss on here. At least it might be an indication that the website is gaining ground and attention which means the popularity should increase, and support the movement.

[Winston]

Great observations Tsar. I think you nailed her.

However, I wouldn't use the term "traditionalist" though. It makes you sound like an old fashioned person with outdated views who can't keep up with modern ways. lol. I prefer the term "natural" vs. "unnatural" relationships. Especially since these "modern unnatural relationships" of feminism are probably engineered by the elite for nefarious and diabolical purposes.

Also, us freethinkers shouldn't call ourselves "traditionalists" because those who follow tradition are not usually freethinkers. lol. See what I mean?

[Christianfilipinacom]

Are we supposed to be amazed that she disagreed with you, or that she said it to your face instead of trying to backstab you later? What's your preference in a woman?

[Winston]

Are we supposed to be amazed that she disagreed with you, or that she said it to your face instead of trying to backstab you later? What's your preference in a woman?

Neither. What does it matter whether she said that to me directly, or behind my back? What's your point? Either way it doesn't matter. That question has no relevance to this topic.

The point is that her points are not valid or have any basis. She is merely attacking and shaming us for not adhering to political correctness. Can't you see that? She is arguing because she's offended by our content, because it's not politically correct. Not because it isn't true. She's a perfect example of why most men do not like this kind of attitude in Western women. She did not prove that anything we said is false. All she did was attack our legitimate points and the basis of this movement without valid reasons. And her attitude is bad too. Isn't this self-explanatory?

My preference in a woman is: femininity, sweetness, modesty, attractiveness, friendliness, kindness, genuine, down-to-earth and open-mindedness. These traits are in abundance overseas. Why do you ask? What's yours? What does this have to do with her letter?

[Christianfilipinacom]

You said she had "some nerve".

I asked whether her "nerve" was for her opinion or her communication style.

I was only asking about her nerve in my first question.

It's odd that you would think it has no relevance to the topic, as you were the one who brought up her nerve in the first place, but we can leave it if you prefer.

My preference is for my friends and wife, when they disagree, to disagree with me to my face privately.

[abcdavid01]

Tsar, if you ever made a website you'd probably do really well with it. It's because you can say a lot. I know from our PM's too. Top ten lists are great for websites. In terms of writing style I think you and Winston are pretty close. For me it's a little unnatural. Maybe it's because I'm promoting things I just don't really care about. I wonder if those skills can be transferred to your pageant idea?

[imaverycoolcowboy]

The Feminist movement which STARTED in America has fought long and hard to gain what they say is equality with men, but which in truth is a declaration of superiority. The slightest detraction from that position is viewd as sexist hate propaganda. Virtually everywhere else in the world, women coexist with men in traditional gender roles without feeling threatened. I know how Winston feels about religion.. LOL... but even the 5 major world religions agree on the gender role of men, women and the family. Onl;y in America and parts of the UK do women have things reversed.

[C.J.]

Quoting the lonely hoe here:

I would like to clarify a few things here. You promote your website as a site for people who wish to know the advantages of living abroad. I think that is incorrect, and you should be more specific: this is a website for MEN who feel entitled to be adored by women, who may want to know about the advantages of moving overseas.

Well, she's got a point. At the same time though, the situation in the US is EXACTLY like that for women - they're MUCH too entitled, and wish to be adored by men all the time with no strings attached. A smart woman, if you will. Why is she smart? Because she takes advantage of pussifying of the west. And it's all too willing to help her. But here's where the double-edge comes in: any men of the same caliber won't want her! Opposites attract each other much more than doubles.

I am currently living on the other side of the world from my country of origin, and after travelling to many many countries, I have not found a single shred of truth in your \'comparison\' list. Neither have any of my (male) American friends who have lived and travelled abroad.

The men are either attached already, really repulsive, disadvantaged(myself), or really stupid. Even in the USA, I've found many foreigners to be REALLY DIFFERENT(in a positive way, mind you) from the locals here, even after long-term exposure to western corruption.

This entire website is nothing but an excuse for men to complain that women do not like them. Claiming that women are too picky? What a ridiculous statement! Women do not OWE men companionship. Women do not owe men their time, or their attention. Women the world over are actually people, not just some commodity to be searched out and used. You want \'sweet and affectionate\'? Going abroad with the shitty attitudes expressed here are not going to help you, not one single bit. Most women in Europe and Australia are actually more self assured and confident than American women, meaning they are much less likely to tolerate the rubbish promoted on this site.

See first response. Western women overall are worthless sows. But I've seen western escorts be more feminine. :/ It's funny, how woman don't owe men anything? How about some thanks for KEEPING YOU ALIVE. Men don't owe women anything either! Infact if it wasn't for the intimate, sexual satisfaction women gave men, most of them would be beaten to death on the streets, because they have little worth and would be easy to eradicate. Many countries even discourage "manly behavior" from women by doing just that. Watch the news, and you'll see a lot of women turning into westerners, and get attacked with acid, group assaults etc. Personally, I've never seen a REAL woman get attacked in the same manner; but it's obvious she would know better.

You are not even able to deny the blatant sexism expressed here! In the list of reasons to move abroad, it mentions the huge obesity rate in America. It goes on to state that that makes finding an attractive WOMAN hard. Newsflash, sunshine, MEN are obese too! Plenty of them. I think it\'s laughable that you would even consider publishing tripe like this. Classic example of arrogant Americans feeling entitled. That entire list was nothing but a projection of the author\'s own problems. HE is the entitled and selfish one.

We KNOW that men are obese too. Westerners overall are getting fatter, thanks to the additives in their food. But that's not the point. Even fatass western women are picky as hell! THIS paragraph of hers is tripe. Doesn't help her cause and proves NO point. In fact it work against her. Proves she's stupid as hell, just like ALL western women who give in to feminism.

Before you write me off as one of those \'man haters\' you\'re so fond of mentioning, I am married to a wonderful man. He finds this website as detestable as I do. He was the one who found it and brought it to my attention, while calling it disgusting and ludicrous.

She's clearly married to a mangina. Just recording him while he's alone;you may find his true opinion much different. Either that or she's a big liar. And just because she's married to a man, doesn't mean she can't be a man hater. I've seen many women marry guys they don't hate, but he has money, or he can do things most men can't;save money! I know one woman who married a guy who can build houses, and develop software;he has a lot of money to spend. She hates his guts, but the deal's good - she gives him the [kid-free]sex, he gives her a free house and all the money she can blow. She ain't stupid, unlike this person who wrote this letter.

I know you\'ll take none of this on board, as you have already displayed your blatant disregard for actual facts (finding facts here is like looking for a needle in a haystack) has already been made clear, and my pointing them out will probably make no difference to you.

See my previous points - she's quick to dismiss your points, and doesn't even give you a chance to speak up! Clearly a man-hater. And stupid too. Did I forget to mention she's dumb as a bag of rocks? If she IS in fact, married to a man, he is THE dumbest person on earth. But I believe she's lying. Or married to a rich person. Who else would marry a dumb hoe like her? I know escorts who are smarter!

Either way, I thought it necessary that a sane, non-american, non-asshole should point out that your site, and everything on it is an abomination. Go back to your cave, caveman.

CLEARLY A BIG LIE! Funny, how she doesn't talk about her country of origin...If she's sane, she isn't from the west. But she says she's non-american... but, the entire western world doesn't include just america... it includes the US, Canada, Britain, Israel, Iraq, Australia, Japan, and any US-recognized territories like Puerto Rico. Basically, any western-occupied country, or any country that chose to follow the order of the British jew, as the royalty rule at least half the world by law. All of those above countries have been degraded to social, financial, and cognitive dysfunction. Though some fare a little better than others.

So if you live in any of those countries, you're a westerner. And by definition, you're NOT sane! Would a sane person ignore all the facts on the HA website, THEN insult the owner and ALL male members of the forum? Or even waste time writing a huge letter about it all? No.

Sounds like a complete troll or a truly destitute westerner to me.

[Rocky Top]

Before you write me off as one of those \'man haters\' you\'re so fond of mentioning, I am married to a wonderful man. He finds this website as detestable as I do. He was the one who found it and brought it to my attention, while calling it disgusting and ludicrous.

Interesting... I wonder why he was looking?

[ladislav]

That is true. Nothing can be done about though. I've just accepted that as a Black man I'm going to live a miserable life no matter what, and the sooner it ends the better. I'm not going down without a fight though, and it's a fight for myself, not in the White man's military.

Dude, please! You are so America-brainwashed. We need to talk, man! I was also going to have a very bad life because of my ethnic origin but you need to be smarter than ending your life early. That means you need to go to those places where black guys are not treated that way. Trust me, many people have similar feelings because of this and that ethnicity, and its true in one location but not true in another. Knowledge of geography is paramount. Do not dump people into these white , Asian , black categories. Countries matter big time. There are great countries waiting for you.

Asian women in America suck! They are within the US social parameters and cast system and act accordingly.

But you need to stay cool and acquire knowledge. For example, the Philippines is quite receptive to black guys. All of them have a Filipina wife. Like in all that want to have a wife. All have Filipina gfs. No question. But I would not go to China or Japan or Korea if I were black. The same as an Arab guy should not go to Israel to look for one.

Pick your lands wisely!

The Dominican Republic is almost all black ( by American definition). I was there and there did not seem to be any social racism because all people are just Dominicans. It was fun being on a bus surrounded by all these black people who treated me well and did not call me a Honkey mother...er and did not have a pissed off expression on their faces. That is the place for a black American guy to go so start studying Spanish.

If you like gorgeous African girls, you go to Ethiopia and live like a King there. I have a friend from TN and he is really black and he is now running a guest house in Addis Abbaba.

Don't end your life because of stupid narrow minded people. Carve your niche and quilt your world.

PM me with your Skype if you want or just PM and I will give you some ideas. Let's talk!

[Dark_Sol]

Wow, where did she get the idea of us viewing women as commodity? I personally love women, just in foreign countries. As for women being picky, I can say it's true and every other guy I talked to(not on this site). How come women from overseas all of a sudden want to date me? Why is it that when I talk to a lady, she is interested in me, but not in the US? I tried to get a date in the US, but was rejected, stood up and claimed I was harassing them. But overseas, hell no, they want my phone number and really interested in me. Let us compare, all the girls I try to get a date in America, were slightly fat and average looks, in debt from college and don't make a lot of money. They are rather dull and like watching shows on TV. Now foreign ladies, fit and above average looks(some were just beautiful). Some were poor(what you consider poor, personally, I didn't see them as poor), but not in debt. Smart and interesting, they had a sense of curiosity, not like western women. They really do not watch TV that much. They are always out and about.

Personally, she is attacking us cause the truth hurts, see how personal she makes it. If she was rational and knew for a fact that it wasn't true, she wouldn't use shaming tactics and ranting about. That is why Winston's response are good, he doesn't get butthurt from these letters and handles them professionally. Even so far as to offer them to join in on the discussion and if they do, we should handle it professionally. Make them freak out from the truth, while we just state facts and research from reliable sources.

[jboy]

Though I agree with you that a lot of the content here and recent posters are all about hating and using women, you should not have attacked the whole website.

True around half the members here are misogynistic-cavemen types (don't make me drop names!) but they do not represent the whole website. If you would look closely, the forumers who are valid contributing long term members have a high regard for women and are after or is in a long term relationship.

Its true for the casual observer the website can come off as that but if you are sane, you should have not generalized all of the men members here under one label. Not all of us are degenerate mongers. You should have been objective about your observation to not come off as a feminist. You are getting all these attacks for your sweeping generalization.

Sample non-monger long-term/contributing members list:
Me
Momopi
Tsar
Cj
Ghost
Andrewww
Outwest
Taco
Abcdavid01
Zboy1
Lone_yakuza
Publicduende
I can go on....

If you would look at our posts, you would see we are far from what you think us to be. If you would reply to this, then at least name the trolls/misogynists who should not be in this forum anyway.

Don't feel bad about the posts made about you, it does hurt to be labeled the way you labeled all of us in here. Kindly acknowledge the error you made and talk to us objectively. I'm sure they are just responding that way because of hurt. Emotional responses always brings more conflict.

Men, c'mon, she must be talking about the peripheral members here who only troll around and is all about hating women and using women. We should not coddle a few bad apples which is spoiling our whole image.

Winston, may be its time to be more fair in this site. You gotta admit its been full of negativity lately.

[***JP***]

Check out this hate mail I received from a Western woman claiming to live overseas named Rebekah Hiller. Man she has some nerve. Rather than proving us wrong, doesn't her attitude confirm everything we say?

"Dear Winston,

I would like to clarify a few things here. You promote your website as a site for people who wish to know the advantages of living abroad. I think that is incorrect, and you should be more specific: this is a website for MEN who feel entitled to be adored by women, who may want to know about the advantages of moving overseas.

I am currently living on the other side of the world from my country of origin, and after travelling to many many countries, I have not found a single shred of truth in your \'comparison\' list. Neither have any of my (male) American friends who have lived and travelled abroad.

This entire website is nothing but an excuse for men to complain that women do not like them. Claiming that women are too picky? What a ridiculous statement! Women do not OWE men companionship. Women do not owe men their time, or their attention. Women the world over are actually people, not just some commodity to be searched out and used. You want \'sweet and affectionate\'? Going abroad with the shitty attitudes expressed here are not going to help you, not one single bit. Most women in Europe and Australia are actually more self assured and confident than American women, meaning they are much less likely to tolerate the rubbish promoted on this site.

You are not even able to deny the blatant sexism expressed here! In the list of reasons to move abroad, it mentions the huge obesity rate in America. It goes on to state that that makes finding an attractive WOMAN hard. Newsflash, sunshine, MEN are obese too! Plenty of them. I think it\'s laughable that you would even consider publishing tripe like this. Classic example of arrogant Americans feeling entitled. That entire list was nothing but a projection of the author\'s own problems. HE is the entitled and selfish one.

Before you write me off as one of those \'man haters\' you\'re so fond of mentioning, I am married to a wonderful man. He finds this website as detestable as I do. He was the one who found it and brought it to my attention, while calling it disgusting and ludicrous.

I know you\'ll take none of this on board, as you have already displayed your blatant disregard for actual facts (finding facts here is like looking for a needle in a haystack) has already been made clear, and my pointing them out will probably make no difference to you.

Either way, I thought it necessary that a sane, non-american, non-asshole should point out that your site, and everything on it is an abomination. Go back to your cave, caveman.

Kind regards,
Rebekah Hiller"

Here is my logical response to her:

"Hi Rebekah,
Thanks for your feedback. Actually you are wrong on many counts. Everything I say on my site is backed up by real life experience and evidence from research. You have not demonstrated any of my claims and observations to be incorrect. If anything, your attitude toward men back up what I say about how hard and unfeminine Western women are to deal with. You are just a Western woman with an opinion that is not backed by reason, facts or logic. You are the kind of woman who argues just for the sake of arguing, without valid points. To you, truth is relative. Truth is what the majority say and what your friends say. You are the furthest thing from authentic or down to earth or freethinking. You are programmed with the ideals of feminism designed to destroy society from within, and you don't even know it.

Tell me this: If I'm wrong then...

- How come 99.99 percent of the email I receive about Happier Abroad are from people who agree with my observations and discoveries and love my site? You are one of the exceptions. Take a look at my fan mail archive:
http://www.happierabroad.com/FanMail.htm
- How come I have so many testimonials, both offline and online, that validate and confirm my claims on my site? Come into my forum if you want and ask the guys there. Or invite your husband to. Maybe he's just humoring you, or he's a brainwashed mangina. Check out all these real testimonials, most of which are sourced:
http://www.happierabroad.com/testimonials.php
- Why are so many people I know, including myself, Happier Abroad? Remember we live overseas and experience women who are FAR BETTER than the likes of you and your kind. So we have lived it first hand. Women overseas are better and treat men better. Nothing you say changes that. We are living proof and have experienced it. Your denial changes nothing.
- How come 99.99 percent of guys I know who have dated overseas said they will never go back to dating in America again?
- How come America's leading psychologists such as Dr. Laura AGREE with some of our claims? See my friend Steve's research report here:
http://www.happierabroad.com/Research.htm

FYI, Yes, it is BAD thing for women to be too picky. Think about it. If most women are only going for the top 10 percent of guys, then what can the rest of the guys who are unwanted do? What about our need for love, romance and sex? What do you suggest we do? You overlook that and act as if a man's needs are not important. What kind of human being are you? So it's ok for women not to need men, but there is something wrong if men need women? WTF?

The important thing here is that you have NO SOLUTION for this epidemic of loneliness and datelessness in America. I do. You don't. See this pamphlet I wrote that explains why Global Dating is the only real solution to the male loneliness epidemic in America. It makes sense. Most women I've showed it to agree with it too.

http://www.happierabroad.com/GlobalDatingSolution.pdf

Why don't you and your husband come to my forum and discuss it there with my group of freethinkers and intellectuals who do not fear truth or political correctness like your kind do?

Mind if I post your letter in my forum so others can see what kind of people are still out there?

Hope you wake up to reality.

Winston"

Well it shows that our movement to seek something meaningful abroad is eventually putting a dent on ww's ego. I also laughed on the part where her husband said he was disgusted by this site. Typical mangina that fears sleeping on the couch so he has to do whatever she says. So sad cause relationships are supposed to be 50/50 so in what I see is she has no respect for her so called husband at all. People who are brainwashed in today's mainstream society are always gonna freak out of what's different. I honestly hope more people are brave enough to join us here and actually wake up from the dreamworld they have been living in.

[Cornfed]

We all know not to take the silly nonsense females come out with seriously, don't we?