7 US Generals Fired

[Taco]

I don't believe these generals were fired because of "ethical misconduct". More than likely they were fired because they have ethics and don't like the direction America is going.

7 US Generals Fired
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIqbFBmOZ2c

[Devil Dog]

I don't believe these generals were fired because of "ethical misconduct". More than likely they were fired because they have ethics and don't like the direction America is going.

Then you are ill-informed. A little bit of research can go a long way.

The two Marines were relieved because they were responsible for security on a base which was successfully breached by a small force of insurgents who succeeded in killing Marines and destroying aircraft.

One of the naval officers has been accused of using counterfeit chips in a casino.

[Taco]

I don't believe these generals were fired because of "ethical misconduct". More than likely they were fired because they have ethics and don't like the direction America is going.

Then you are ill-informed. A little bit of research can go a long way.

The two Marines were relieved because they were responsible for security on a base which was successfully breached by a small force of insurgents who succeeded in killing Marines and destroying aircraft.

One of the naval officers has been accused of using counterfeit chips in a casino.

I know the "official story". What are the chances of 7 generals getting fired in 1 year?

[Devil Dog]

I don't believe these generals were fired because of "ethical misconduct". More than likely they were fired because they have ethics and don't like the direction America is going.

Then you are ill-informed. A little bit of research can go a long way.

The two Marines were relieved because they were responsible for security on a base which was successfully breached by a small force of insurgents who succeeded in killing Marines and destroying aircraft.

One of the naval officers has been accused of using counterfeit chips in a casino.

I know the "official story". What are the chances of 7 generals getting fired in 1 year?

OK. Let's play a game here. Pretend that you are an admiral in the US Navy. You are not even a run-of-the-mill Admiral. You are a 3 star Vice Admiral, a serious big shot who is in a highly powerful and prestigious position. In your age group, your position makes you a rock star, the equivalent to a CEO at a major corporation.

Lately, you have started to have some misgivings about the direction America is going. You have done some online searches and have found a website called Happier Abroad. There is this guy Winston on there and everything he writes makes sense. Also, Cornfed and Peter Andrew Nolan make posts which resonate with you. You decide that you no longer want to be a part of the US military.

So the sensible next step is which of these two choices:
1. Notify your 4 star admiral boss that you plan to resign and retire. Then do so.
2. Get caught on purpose using counterfeit poker chips in a casino so you can bring shame and embarrassment upon yourself and your family.

Only on HA could someone honestly think that 2 is a viable option.

[Ghost]

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[Devil Dog]

Unless they were trying to fight back somehow instead of just leaving. In that case, the government would smear them to mislead public opinion about them.

Not a fan of Occam's Razor, I see.

Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor from William of Ockham, and in Latin lex parsimoniae) is a principle of parsimony, economy, or succinctness used in logic and problem-solving. It states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected.

[Ghost]

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[Devil Dog]

I know what it is, dipshit. It isn't always right. Here, don't know. Governments smearing those who would do good or blow whistles is a simple explanation, however, and governments do have strong motives for doing these things.

Just keep holding on to this incredibly asinine conspiracy theory. Don't give any consideration to the thought that it involves a complex and convoluted plan used to accomplish something which is very simple.

You realize that a military posting does not go for a particular term, right? Any of these flag officers can be replaced or transferred at any time.

No, of course you did not know that. And you are not interested in knowing that, because it ruins your half-assed little conspiracy theory.

[Winston]

OK. Let's play a game here. Pretend that you are an admiral in the US Navy. You are not even a run-of-the-mill Admiral. You are a 3 star Vice Admiral, a serious big shot who is in a highly powerful and prestigious position. In your age group, your position makes you a rock star, the equivalent to a CEO at a major corporation.

Lately, you have started to have some misgivings about the direction America is going. You have done some online searches and have found a website called Happier Abroad. There is this guy Winston on there and everything he writes makes sense. Also, Cornfed and Peter Andrew Nolan make posts which resonate with you. You decide that you no longer want to be a part of the US military.

So the sensible next step is which of these two choices:
1. Notify your 4 star admiral boss that you plan to resign and retire. Then do so.
2. Get caught on purpose using counterfeit poker chips in a casino so you can bring shame and embarrassment upon yourself and your family.

Only on HA could someone honestly think that 2 is a viable option.

You are very narrow again. You forgot:

3. Speak out about it and then get dismissed with some bullshit excuse.

You also assume that authority=truth and that lies and cover ups in high places don't exist, when in reality they are the norm. In other countries, everyone knows that conspiracies exist. Only ignorant Americans like you believe that establishment=truth.

It's not easy for an Admiral to just resign. He spent his whole career building up to where he is. It's his life and honor.

It sounds like you don't live in the real world. You don't even know that the powers that be can lie and get rid of people for dissent. It's happened in many cases and to many people. If you don't believe it, try working for the government or military and then start saying dissenting things and see what happens.

Authority is not truth. Truth is the authority.

What are the odds that 7 Generals would engage in drinking and gambling? Generals and Admirals are highly disciplined people.

[Winston]

Unless they were trying to fight back somehow instead of just leaving. In that case, the government would smear them to mislead public opinion about them.

Not a fan of Occam's Razor, I see.

Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor from William of Ockham, and in Latin lex parsimoniae) is a principle of parsimony, economy, or succinctness used in logic and problem-solving. It states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected.

Very bad logic. Occam's Razor does NOT debunk conspiracies and lies from authority in any way at all. It doesn't prove anything. It's just a rule of thumb in physics. It has nothing to do with conspiracies or evidence. Only pseudo-skeptics use it.

I wrote a page debunking Occam's Razor by pseudoskeptics here:
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Page3.htm

Besides, conspiracies are a simple explanation. They are part of life. Some are very obvious, such as the JFK assassination which is universally acknowledged as a conspiracy, including with 90 percent of the American public.

Only dumb shitheads like you believe that conspiracies don't exist.

Let me ask you some indefensible questions:

- After Princess Diana's car accident, why did it take the ambulance 90 minutes to get her to the hospital that was only 5 minutes away? So you see nothing suspicious about that?
- After President Kennedy was shot, why did J Edgar Hoover and the Dallas District Attorney declare immediately afterward that Oswald was the only assassin and that his guilt was a "moral certainty" and that no one else was involved? If that isn't a dead giveaway of a planned patsy, then what is?
- Why did Hoover write a letter to the Warren Commission stating that "The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the only assassin..." How much more obvious can it get?

If you can't see that these are dead giveaways of a conspiracy and cover up, then you are hopelessly lost and probably dishonest as well. There's no reasoning with you if you can't even see what a child can see.

No honest person would try to defend the indefensible.

[Devil Dog]

OK. Let's play a game here. Pretend that you are an admiral in the US Navy. You are not even a run-of-the-mill Admiral. You are a 3 star Vice Admiral, a serious big shot who is in a highly powerful and prestigious position. In your age group, your position makes you a rock star, the equivalent to a CEO at a major corporation.

Lately, you have started to have some misgivings about the direction America is going. You have done some online searches and have found a website called Happier Abroad. There is this guy Winston on there and everything he writes makes sense. Also, Cornfed and Peter Andrew Nolan make posts which resonate with you. You decide that you no longer want to be a part of the US military.

So the sensible next step is which of these two choices:
1. Notify your 4 star admiral boss that you plan to resign and retire. Then do so.
2. Get caught on purpose using counterfeit poker chips in a casino so you can bring shame and embarrassment upon yourself and your family.

Only on HA could someone honestly think that 2 is a viable option.

You are very narrow again. You forgot:

(goofy rant snipped)

What are the odds that 7 Generals would engage in drinking and gambling? Generals and Admirals are highly disciplined people.

Winston, first of all, none of the generals were fired for drinking and gambling. One admiral was fired for using counterfeit chips, not for gambling.

I know you are a free thinker and all, but you don't know shit about the US military.

Two of the seven mentioned were Marines who were relieved of command over a breach of security in Afghanistan which led to a loss of several aircraft and two Marines. So how does that fit into your conspiracy theory?

[Rocky Top]

One of the naval officers has been accused of using counterfeit chips in a casino.

That story turns out to be untrue.

[Devil Dog]

Unless they were trying to fight back somehow instead of just leaving. In that case, the government would smear them to mislead public opinion about them.

Not a fan of Occam's Razor, I see.

Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor from William of Ockham, and in Latin lex parsimoniae) is a principle of parsimony, economy, or succinctness used in logic and problem-solving. It states that among competing hypotheses, the hypothesis with the fewest assumptions should be selected.

Very bad logic. Occam's Razor does NOT debunk conspiracies and lies from authority in any way at all. It doesn't prove anything. It's just a rule of thumb in physics. It has nothing to do with conspiracies or evidence. Only pseudo-skeptics use it.

I wrote a page debunking Occam's Razor by pseudoskeptics here:
http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Page3.htm

Besides, conspiracies are a simple explanation. They are part of life. Some are very obvious, such as the JFK assassination which is universally acknowledged as a conspiracy, including with 90 percent of the American public.

Only dumb shitheads like you believe that conspiracies don't exist.

Let me ask you some indefensible questions:

- After Princess Diana's car accident, why did it take the ambulance 90 minutes to get her to the hospital that was only 5 minutes away? So you see nothing suspicious about that?
- After President Kennedy was shot, why did J Edgar Hoover and the Dallas District Attorney declare immediately afterward that Oswald was the only assassin and that his guilt was a "moral certainty" and that no one else was involved? If that isn't a dead giveaway of a planned patsy, then what is?
- Why did Hoover write a letter to the Warren Commission stating that "The public must be satisfied that Oswald was the only assassin..." How much more obvious can it get?

If you can't see that these are dead giveaways of a conspiracy and cover up, then you are hopelessly lost and probably dishonest as well. There's no reasoning with you if you can't even see what a child can see.

No honest person would try to defend the indefensible.

Please show me where I wrote that conspiracies do not exist.

A straw man or straw person, also known in the UK as an Aunt Sally,[1][2] is a common type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[3] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[3][4] This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged, emotional issues. In those cases the false victory is often loudly or conspicuously celebrated.

[Taco]

Two more high ranking officers just got fired.

2 More Top Military Commanders Fired
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XKDOtjFXmk