How many of you have daughters?

[argaluza]

Cooking is fine for both sexes. I subscribe to gender roles but not to rigidity People should do what naturally appeals to them, not what is dictated by society.

No-one 'dictates' to any woman to become a firefighter (for example) it is just open to them if one wants to become one, what is wrong with that?

And since women naturally have different preferences,

Women have different preferences to each other! That is why we can all get a date.

They should be allowed to follow those preferences. I once met a lesbian lumberjack who was more masculine than most men I know. I have no problem with that since that was her nature. What I hate about feminism and modern culture is that these things actively pressure people to become evil.

So we agree on 90% of this by the looks of it, the 'evil' you speak of is not feminism, just ill bred children becoming adults and trying to survive in the big bad world and failing. The 'me me me' generation that is rude, stuck up and treats people like shit are both genders I have found.

[OutWest]

So exactly what might give most so called feminists dullards the right to be overbearing just because she is sitting on a vajay-jay? So any anti-feminist commentary is by definition a "rant"?

It doesn't, call out rude, overbearing behaviour wherever it exists.

I encourage my not yet 14 year-old daughter to realistically evaluate possibilities and make informed
choices. Most women and most men should not focus too much on "Self esteem" and "self potential",
as for most of us, our self-potential sucks.

So, if you are not aware of your own self potential and have not tried to reach for it yourself, why disable your own daughters dreams and ambitions because you didn't do it yourself?

Rather than continually fluff my daughters pillow and tell her that if she dropped a turd in the
middle of the living room floor, it's actually a gold-wrapped chocolate bar, I have always taught her
that even if she does her best, she needs to attach herself to things that are bigger and more important than just herself. Of course, for feminists, there is NOTHING more important than self.

You can explain to her that she isn't the centre of the universe and that she has to treat people right (even men) but she can also set her dreams and ambitions and she is as good as a man. Why are these mutually incompatible?

So...my brow-beaten non-feminist brainwashed daughter, has somehow managed to be doing college level work before she is even 14, and is somewhat of a prodigy, as she sets up and administers her own servers and has the verbal skills of an advanced adult.

Oooh, well done you. I am sure wifey and the school she attends has some bearing as do outside influences like heroes, peer role models etc (mostly female teachers, friends, singers, aunties, mum, granny). It isn't all down to just you bud.

She actually thinks she has to EARN her place in this world vs some kind of silly feminist entitlement.

I am also sure she thinks she is equal to any male her age in an academic setting, correct?

All that said, yes some men are brutes, as some women are bitche$. Fortunately, there are quite a few men and women who are neither one.

Indeed.

You come across as insulting. You are rude, patronizing and shallow. You insult someone's wife by calling her "Wifey" ...yes, that "subservient" mindless little Asian bimbo you must
have married...you are a jerk. Little "wifey" has an engineering degree and has more sense and brains than you will ever possess. "Daughter" does not think she is an equal to boys her age, because
she has never met one that was even close to her intellectually.

If you are are an the example to your daughter, I pitty her. You come across as a complete ignoramus incapable of thinking beyond your stereotypes.

I am not "bud' dude. You are just a classless clod.

[Winston]

What would make a woman become a masculine slut? Becoming a firefighter? Taking up a sport such as rugby instead of crochet? Wearing jeans instead of a skirt? Inform me.

Yes, being a firefighter and playing rugby are masculine activities. Most normal women would not choose these activities unless pressured to do so by a feminist culture. And I assume you know what a slut is.

Ah right, you still subscribe to rigid gender roles? So a male chef is a big nancy boy as cooking is deemed suitable for females?

If "women can do anything that men can do", then:

- How come every time I get my car's oil changed, it's always a man doing it? Never a woman?
- How come when I get a car fixed, it's always a man doing it?
- How come when I see construction workers working outside, they are always men? Why aren't women building houses too?
- How come when I call the plumber, it's always a man that comes?
- How come when there is a strange sound in the dark outside, women always want men to check it out? Why don't they check it out themselves?
- How come there has never been a great female general that has won great military battles against all odds, such as Napoleon's masterful victory at the Battle of Austerlitz? Or Alexander the Great's epic victory at the Battle of Gautemala against a Persian army 4 or 5 times the size of his?
- How come great inventors, painters, and composers throughout history have always been men? Where are the female Mozarts, DaVincis and Einsteins?
- How come professional sports divide men and women into different leagues? Even pro tennis is divided by gender. If men and women were the same, why aren't they playing together on the same teams? Why aren't football teams co-ed?
- Why aren't women going into front lines in battle in the army?
- Why don't women run into burning buildings to try to save lives?

Question for feminists: If feminism is about equality then:

1. How come in America you are allowed to say "women are smarter than men" but you can't say "men are smarter than women" without being labeled a sexist pig? Why does "equality" have such double standards?
2. How come husbands have to call their wives "The Boss" in America? Why are wives in charge by default due to their gender? How is that equal?
3. Why can't you fight for equality without hating men and without destroying your natural femininity and without turning yourselves into monsters who hate love, romance and flirtation?
4. Why can't you fight for equality without becoming masculine, and without detesting the qualities of beauty, grace, class, elegance and femininity in women, thus making yourself unattractive in the process? Women in the 1970's were able to stand for equality without losing their femininity and beauty (e.g. Charlies Angels) so why can't you?

Please meditate on the above. I hope that you see how destructive, degenerate and unnatural your "feminism" is and how it's actually been a trojan horse designed to destroy your femininity and gender for some nefarious purpose.

The elites behind the movement don't care about your equal rights. Why would they? You are just cattle to them. You are just an economic resource to them. They are using you for their own nefarious agenda. Please wake up before it's too late. Try to head back toward wholesome femininity and sacred feminine qualities.

[argaluza]

You come across as an insulting. You are rude, patronizing and shallow.

You came on a bit strong yourself in regards being patronizing, don't like it, don't dish it out.

You insult someone's wife by calling her "Wifey" ...yes, that "subservient" mindless little Asian bimbo you must
have married...you are a jerk.

You are the anti-feminist (your words), the great evil in the world, I am pretty certain that your wife is the better half in your coupling I am sure.

Little "wifey" has an engineering degree and has more sense and brains than you will ever possess.

Based on?

"Daughter" does not think she is an equal to boys her age, because
she has never met one that was even close to her intellectually.

Ah right, those lessons you 'taught' her did not sink in after all.

If you are are an the example to your daughter, I pitty her. You come across as a complete ignoramus incapable of thinking beyond your stereotypes.

I am just one example open to her in her quest for the answers as she goes through life pal. It aint all just down to me, now, if my input stops her marrying some overbearing dullard who thinks he is superior to her because of the package between his legs, then I will be happy.

I am not "bud' dude. You are just a classless clod.

OK bud.

[Winston]

It depends on how you define feminism. Feminism is not a monolithic movement or entity. It has many shades and many objectives and many levels, some of which are deceptive and others are honest.

I define it by the Oxford dictionary.

feminism
ˈfɛmɪnɪz(ə)m/Submit
noun
1.
the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Fine. But I don't think most of us have a problem with that. The problem is that the elites have used it as a trojan horse. Why do so many feminists hate men? Why do they see flirtation as offensive behavior?

The feminism wave of the 90's is a different thing altogether. That's why women became monsters after that, and vilified flirtation, courting and being pursued.

That is just people who haven't been brought up properly, the experiment that went badly wrong wasn't feminism but the way children have been disciplined - a smack on the arse still has its place in bringing up a child - and the lack of it has turned out nasty spiteful adults. Blaming feminism for this is wrong in my view as there are as many nasty, rude, spiteful, pig ignorant young men these days as well as women.

I agree to a point. But there are many problems in America, not just narcissism. Narcissism doesn't make women masculine. Being spoiled doesn't turn women masculine. A lot more is going on here.

Men are portrayed as stupid and women as smarter. Have you seen sitcoms like "Home Improvement"? They always show the husband and stupid and immature and the wife as smarter and more mature and she wins every argument at the end. How is that equality?

Yes narcissism affects men and women. But not equally. A guy who is on his smart phone is easier to chat up and start a conversation with than a woman is. Women in the US are far more self-absorbed and distant than men are. Try approaching men and women in America and you will see what I mean. Men do not put up a paranoid defensive wall. They are open to talking to strangers. Women aren't. Overseas they are though.

European women have told me that the only friends they made in America were guys. White American girls were not as social to them. They were in their own shells and didn't want to connect with them. There is a huge difference between men and women that can't be denied. Even white women from other countries see this.

You are insinuating that men and women are the same and that gender is a social construct. Are you? Are you a guy or a girl?

No one here is against equality. But when a movement turns women into hateful monsters and DESTROYS their femininity, then it's a bad thing. If every woman were like that, there'd be no families and the human race would not live on. But that's what the Satanic Illuminati wants. They want men to be weak and homosexual, and women to be in charge. Then there will be no resistance to their NWO.

The reason men are 'weak' these days is because a lot of them have lacked a proper upbringing also. We have a young generation of people who are just lacking in the most basic of qualities.

You know yourself Winston - those old babushkas who were both feminine and feminist? Who manned the artillery at Stalingrad and wore their medals with pride but took great care in the way they looked and looked after their husbands and families - both can co-exist.

Not just upbringing. Our media and culture has brought down everything too. So have the elites and Illuminati and dark forces. So has our food and chemtrails and HAARP too.

This has nothing to do with teaching your daughter to stand up for herself.

Feminism isn't the enemy. Not in its truest sense.

Yeah but feminism is a word. It can be used as a trojan horse to mask another agenda by the elites.

Why are women programmed to think they're too good for men? Why are they programmed to be dissatisfied with men?

Women and men aren't the same. Men aren't as picky with women. They take what they can get. Women are the super choosy ones. They are the ones that aren't very social with strangers. We all know this. Stop pretending that there is no gender difference. There definitely is. I listed many examples in the previous post.

I think you must be a woman. You are using chick logic in a lot of your points.

[argaluza]

If "women can do anything that men can do", then:

- How come every time I get my car's oil changed, it's always a man doing it? Never a woman?
- How come when I get a car fixed, it's always a man doing it?
- How come when I see construction workers working outside, they are always men? Why aren't women building houses too?
- How come when I call the plumber, it's always a man that comes?
- How come when there is a strange sound in the dark outside, women always want men to check it out? Why don't they check it out themselves?
- How come there has never been a great female general that has won great military battles against all odds, such as Napoleon's masterful victory at the Battle of Austerlitz? Or Alexander the Great's epic victory at the Battle of Gautemala against a Persian army 4 or 5 times the size of his?
- How come great inventors, painters, and composers throughout history have always been men? Where are the female Mozarts, DaVincis and Einsteins?
- How come professional sports divide men and women into different leagues? Even pro tennis is divided by gender. If men and women were the same, why aren't they playing together on the same teams? Why aren't football teams co-ed?
- Why aren't women going into front lines in battle in the army?
- Why don't women run into burning buildings to try to save lives?

See, we can turn all this around, are most military dictators female? How about people who commit mass global genocide like Hitler? What gender would that be? Rapists and child molesters? The vast majority of them female? Do you think you are braver than Valentina Tereshkova?

Simpler question? Do you think the captain of that Korean ferry abandoned his ship because of his gender or because he is an arsehole deficient in decency?

1. How come in America you are allowed to say "women are smarter than men" but you can't say "men are smarter than women" without being labeled a sexist pig? Why does "equality" have such double standards?

I have never heard a woman say (seriously) that women are smarter than men.

2. How come husbands have to call their wives "The Boss" in America? Why are wives in charge by default due to their gender? How is that equal?

Did you call your wife 'The Boss'? Hahaha, funny!

3. Why can't you fight for equality without hating men and without destroying your natural femininity and without turning yourselves into monsters who hate love, romance and flirtation?

Because you are mistaking bad behaviour and ill brought up people for 'feminism'.

4. Why can't you fight for equality without becoming masculine, and without detesting the qualities of beauty, grace, class, elegance and femininity in women, thus making yourself unattractive in the process? Women in the 1970's were able to stand for equality without losing their femininity and beauty (e.g. Charlies Angels) so why can't you?

You must have had your eyes shut wearing ear plugs in Russia. Did you ever socialise with the old ladies when you were there?

[OutWest]

You come across as an insulting. You are rude, patronizing and shallow.

You came on a bit strong yourself in regards being patronizing, don't like it, don't dish it out.

You insult someone's wife by calling her "Wifey" ...yes, that "subservient" mindless little Asian bimbo you must
have married...you are a jerk.

You are the anti-feminist (your words), the great evil in the world, I am pretty certain that your wife is the better half in your coupling I am sure.

Little "wifey" has an engineering degree and has more sense and brains than you will ever possess.

Based on?

"Daughter" does not think she is an equal to boys her age, because
she has never met one that was even close to her intellectually.

Ah right, those lessons you 'taught' her did not sink in after all.

If you are are an the example to your daughter, I pitty her. You come across as a complete ignoramus incapable of thinking beyond your stereotypes.

I am just one example open to her in her quest for the answers as she goes through life pal. It aint all just down to me, now, if my input stops her marrying some overbearing dullard who thinks he is superior to her because of the package between his legs, then I will be happy.

I am not "bud' dude. You are just a classless clod.

OK bud.

ok...I get it...you are some Brit type who has been taught to pee sitting down.
I think we could just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Caretakers of dying civilizations are needed of course.
Of course I am insulting you. We don't think much of each other it's obvious.
Just think, if it were 200 years ago we could slap each others' faces with our gloves, insult each others' mothers, and settle it with choice of pistols or sabres.

Ok...I think you are a toad...but I would still buy you a pint to test your sense of humor
and if you kept on calling me BUD, I would keep pouring you pints till you passed out and soiled yourself.

The art of the well crafted insult is nearly lost, so please try to do better. From a literary standpoint, this is quite dull to this point. Can we up the ante a bit?

[argaluza]

Fine. But I don't think most of us have a problem with that. The problem is that the elites have used it as a trojan horse.

So blame the elites, falling for their 'divide and rule' again, I thought you were smarter than that.

Why do so many feminists hate men?

They don't

Why do they see flirtation as offensive behavior?

Everyone has the right not to partake in flirtation with people they don't find attractive. Yes, grace and politese goes a long way - very little to be found in this generation in both sexes.

I agree to a point. But there are many problems in America, not just narcissism. Men are portrayed as stupid and women as smarter. Have you seen sitcoms like "Home Improvement"? They always show the husband and stupid and immature and the wife as smarter and more mature and she wins every argument at the end. How is that equality?

Because it is a comedy, comedy - all comedy is based on a victim - comedy is not the best vehicle to prove that there is an anti-male agenda at play, there has been loads of female fall people in comedies - have you ever heard of 'absolutely fabulous'?

Yes narcissism affects men and women. But not equally. A guy who is on his smart phone is easier to chat up and start a conversation with than a woman is. Women in the US are far more self-absorbed and distant than men are. Try approaching men and women in America and you will see what I mean.

Attractive women are hit on every day, imagine being one, you will only be the 73rd person that week who has come out with the 'hiya gorgeous' line. If you are a man looking for an attractive woman then you are going to get rebuffed, sometimes they aren't going to be nice because some women are just not nice. Harden up sweetcheeks.

European women have told me that the only friends they made in America were guys. White American girls were not as social and were in their own shells. There is a huge difference between men and women that can't be denied.

And the American women I was at university with had a hard time making friends with the local student populace, if you are there for a semester or maybe two, it is hard to make friends - guess who else would have had a hard time making friends - American men with European men - the Americans where I was hung around with each other - especially the fellas

You are insinuating that men and women are the same and that gender is a social construct. Are you? Are you a guy or a girl?

No, I am suggesting that women should have equal opportunities to men where appropriate.

Not just upbringing. Our media and culture has brought down everything too. So have the elites and Illuminati and dark forces. So has our food and chemtrails and HAARP too.

So women having equal rights are not the enemy, it is the 'elites' who are using 'divide and conquer'.

Yeah but feminism is a word. It can be used as a trojan horse to mask another agenda by the elites.

Not really, the word feminism is clearly defined. How you define it is in your own head.

Why are women programmed to think they're too good for men? Why are they programmed to be dissatisfied with men?

Give me a percentage who think like that with academic backing? 10%? 50%? 98%? Why do most women I know don't think like that?

Women and men aren't the same.

I didn't say they were?

Men aren't as picky with women.

Hahaha - stating the obvious

They take what they can get. Women are the super choosy ones

Wouldn't you be super choosy if you could? Do you think Brad Pitt being married to Angelina Jolie was an accident of errors? Or Falvio Briatorie with Heidi Klum? Who he dumped for another supermodel.

They are the ones that aren't very social with strangers. We all know this. Stop pretending that there is no gender difference. There definitely is. I listed many examples in the previous post.

Who said there was no differences? All one wants is for women to have equal opportunities and for them to have equal chances where appropiate.

[argaluza]

ok...I get it...you are some Brit type who has been taught to pee sitting down.
I think we could just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Caretakers of dying civilizations are needed of course.

See, I would be offended if I was some vacuous, nationalistic, idiot type, I am not

Of course I am insulting you.

No, because the decline of 'my' empire has no bearing on me so 'insult' away.

We don't think much of each other it's obvious.
Just think, if it were 200 years ago we could slap each others' faces with our gloves, insult each others' mothers, and settle it with choice of pistols or sabres.

You don't know me! We could be great friends if you give me the chance!

Ok...I think you are a toad...but I would still buy you a pint to test your sense of humor
and if you kept on calling me BUD, I would keep pouring you pints till you passed out and soiled yourself.

I can't hold my beer, that scenario would cost you under 10 bucks.

The art of the well crafted insult is nearly lost, so please try to do better. From a literary standpoint, this is quite dull to this point. Can we up the ante a bit?

Has to come from your end mate, have you not realised not all us Brits give a monkeys about queen and empire.

[Cornfed]

I ask because I have a daughter and as a bright, funny, inquisitive little girl, I would hate her to grow into an adult and marry

Don't worry, the current regime doesn't do marriage. Your daughter's "romantic" life will likely consist of being sodomized and gangbanged by methheads from age 11 or so onwards until she is too used up and unattractive for any self-respecting methhead to touch (mid 20s or so). In the recent past her long term future would consist of growing old alone and bitter with a few neurotic cats for company, but the way things are going she probably has no long term future.

Also, I encourage her right (even at this early stage) to be what she wants to be. What is wrong with that?

It would be a bit like encouraging children to eat what they want to eat, which would in fact amount to encouraging them to eat the crap that cynical men in high places want them to eat. The results are disastrous.

[argaluza]

Don't worry, the current regime doesn't do marriage. Your daughter's "romantic" life will likely consist of being sodomized and gangbanged by methheads from age 11 or so onwards until she is too used up and unattractive for any self-respecting methhead to touch (mid 20s or so). In the recent past her long term future would consist of growing old alone and bitter with a few neurotic cats for company, but the way things are going she probably has no long term future.

Fortunately though, we live a long away from your trailer park so being gang-banged by meth-heads is a pleasure that you can indulge in to your hearts content.

It would be a bit like encouraging children to eat what they want to eat, which would in fact amount to encouraging them to eat the crap that cynical men in high places want them to eat. The results are disastrous.

Erm, no, it might have not worked out for you because you lacked a proper upbringing, talking to your child and monitoring what they eat does wonders.

[OutWest]

ok...I get it...you are some Brit type who has been taught to pee sitting down.
I think we could just agree to disagree and leave it at that.
Caretakers of dying civilizations are needed of course.

See, I would be offended if I was some vacuous, nationalistic, idiot type, I am not

Of course I am insulting you.

No, because the decline of 'my' empire has no bearing on me so 'insult' away.

We don't think much of each other it's obvious.
Just think, if it were 200 years ago we could slap each others' faces with our gloves, insult each others' mothers, and settle it with choice of pistols or sabres.

You don't know me! We could be great friends if you give me the chance!

Ok...I think you are a toad...but I would still buy you a pint to test your sense of humor
and if you kept on calling me BUD, I would keep pouring you pints till you passed out and soiled yourself.

I can't hold my beer, that scenario would cost you under 10 bucks.

The art of the well crafted insult is nearly lost, so please try to do better. From a literary standpoint, this is quite dull to this point. Can we up the ante a bit?

Has to come from your end mate, have you not realised not all us Brits give a monkeys about queen and empire.

Well things are looking up. And as a descendent of a Scot who was banished from his own lands in the Clearances, I know that most Brits are beyond taking insult at rude comments on my part about
their former empire and the Prussian imposters known as the Royal Family.

So, I will give that some thought...refresh my instincts and hell, I would buy you the beer
so we could work on insulting each other at close range. You do sound like a cheap date anyway,
and those Facebook pics of you in that soiled state would look great on your resume, no?

But...I think we are at some distance, and I doubt a pint bought via Paypal would really count, would it?

[Cornfed]

Don't worry, the current regime doesn't do marriage. Your daughter's "romantic" life will likely consist of being sodomized and gangbanged by methheads from age 11 or so onwards until she is too used up and unattractive for any self-respecting methhead to touch (mid 20s or so). In the recent past her long term future would consist of growing old alone and bitter with a few neurotic cats for company, but the way things are going she probably has no long term future.

Fortunately though, we live a long away from your trailer park

What I just described is mainstream now. No, I am not joking or exaggerating. Here is why:
viewtopic.php?t=21086

It would be a bit like encouraging children to eat what they want to eat, which would in fact amount to encouraging them to eat the crap that cynical men in high places want them to eat. The results are disastrous.

Erm, no, it might have not worked out for you because you lacked a proper upbringing, talking to your child and monitoring what they eat does wonders.

Exactly, which is the opposite of letting them do what they want. Just so, women, being essentially grown children, need responsible adult supervision with regard to their romantic and personal lives. Shame on you for wanting to deprive your daughter of such supervision.

[argaluza]

Well things are looking up. And as a descendent of a Scot who was banished from his own lands in the Clearances, I know that most Brits are beyond taking insult at rude comments on my part about
their former empire and the Prussian imposters known as the Royal Family.

As a fellow Celt whose ancestors shared the island with your ancestors, I just have to say, the royals are awful aren't they?

So, I will give that some thought...refresh my instincts and hell, I would buy you the beer
so we could work on insulting each other at close range. You do sound like a cheap date anyway,
and those Facebook pics of you in that soiled state would look great on your resume, no?

Man - you sound like my mum is disguise? She is the only one who has seen me in a soiled state whilst dishing out insults.

But...I think we are at some distance, and I doubt a pint bought via Paypal would really count, would it?

A virtual pint has been drunk by us both - cheers!

[argaluza]

What I just described is mainstream now. No, I am not joking or exaggerating. Here is why:
viewtopic.php?t=21086

Come on man! I am not reading that! Easter and all that, I just want to eat eggs and drift in and out of sleep watching James Bond films.

My sole reason is that I have lived 'happily abroad' in four countries and thought I could contribute.

Exactly, which is the opposite of letting them do what they want. Just so, women, being essentially grown children, need responsible adult supervision with regard to their romantic and personal lives. Shame on you for wanting to deprive your daughter of such supervision.

You can't do what you want anyway, who would teach their child that anyway, they have to pick and choose what they want to do, try their best and if it doesn't work out then be flexible and try something else. I don't see what that has to do with the evils of feminism. What it seems to me is that folks want to blame bad behaviour on 'feminism'
when it is just bad behaviour.