Confessions of a reformed racist

Mr.Darcy · Post by **Mr.Darcy** » June 14th, 2014, 9:18 am

I agree, it's a waste of energy and it's detrimental. Insecurity at its best.

DanielleNguyen · Post by **DanielleNguyen** » June 14th, 2014, 9:20 am

I like the way you think. At least your honest. It may be the pregnancy hormones talking but the way you talked about your wife made me cry. As for other ppls judgements, you can't change someone's hatred.

zboy1 · Post by **zboy1** » June 14th, 2014, 9:22 am

Great post! But I think a lot of the White posters here aren't going to like what you wrote, to be honest, MarcosZeitola.

That goes for the Black and Asian supremacists on the forum as well...

DanielleNguyen · Post by **DanielleNguyen** » June 14th, 2014, 9:23 am

I'm white and I liked it. He is being honest about his feelings. And maybe he has the strength to face the haters.

DanielleNguyen · Post by **DanielleNguyen** » June 14th, 2014, 10:59 am

He's got a point there

Cornfed · Post by **Cornfed** » June 14th, 2014, 12:34 pm

You meet some shapely mulatta who doesn't exhibit much TNB (that you saw) and conclude just from that that blacks are just like white people? That is really stupid, and in the coming years stupidity will be a luxury we can no longer afford.

Cornfed · Post by **Cornfed** » June 14th, 2014, 1:04 pm

MarcosZeitola wrote:What is 'TNB'?

Typical nigger behavior.

You are very focused on "the coming years" which is why you choose to sit on your butt and do nothing, waiting for "the coming years" to come?

Forming alliances online is not doing nothing. Like I said, I've lived and worked abroad for years. Currently though I am recuperating from an injury.

DanielleNguyen · Post by **DanielleNguyen** » June 14th, 2014, 2:40 pm

TNB sounds like a type of sandwich.

KokujinKrusader · Post by **KokujinKrusader** » June 14th, 2014, 2:42 pm

DanielleNguyen wrote:TNB sounds like a type of sandwich.

Tomatoes, Niggas, and Bacon. New from KKKFC. We do chicken white, but wait until you try our bacon, that's sure to keep them muslims and jews away!

DanielleNguyen · Post by **DanielleNguyen** » June 14th, 2014, 3:03 pm

hmmm turkey nectarine burgers now at hardees.

DanielleNguyen · Post by **DanielleNguyen** » June 14th, 2014, 4:37 pm

dood you got me craving KFC NOW. LIKE seriously I just sent my husband out for some chicken. But only chicken legs. I only like the legs.

Post by **fschmidt** » June 14th, 2014, 7:06 pm

While I have no use for racism, I disagree with a few points here. First of all, I hate the phrase "too extreme". I disagree with racism, not extremism. I mean, what would be it mean to too extremely right about something? And second, just because race isn't the right way to group people doesn't mean that other ways of grouping people are invalid. I group people by culture, not race. And I do strongly believe that some cultures are far superior to others.

Cornfed · Post by **Cornfed** » June 15th, 2014, 12:41 am

MarcosZeitola wrote:It's perfectly fine to group people by cultures, as the culture in which one is born has a much more profound impact on their development then their ethnic background.

How do you know that one's ethnic background does not strongly shape or limit one's culture?

publicduende · Post by **publicduende** » June 15th, 2014, 5:29 am

Loved this post, Marcos. It looks like you packed a lot of quality life experience in just the few years that separate you from the end of adolescence. And when I say "quality" I means both positive and negative experiences, in fact any significant event that made you who you are today.

I think it's typical of the late teen/early twenties age window, to try and reduce the world around us in a few simple theories. You found yourself in a neighbourhood where blacks and immigrants were being stigmatised as underachievers, troublemakers or worse. I remember reading about the change in Dutch public opinion after the death of Pim Fortuyn in 2002, considering him a martyr of sorts. Many people read that assassination as the proof that Holland's legendary openness towards a multicultural society had gone too far. As many kids fresh out of school, you simply did two plus two and resonated with some of the ideas or ideologies en vogue.

It might have been that coffee-skinned babe giving you intense feelings, or you simply growing up and defining your own view of the world, rather than been spoon-fed one by selected people, that opened your eyes to a more balanced and veritable version of reality. Whatever it was, I am glad you concluded that racism, any form of racism, is not only socially harmful but negates the essence of human nature, which is fundamentally identical across the board. Regardless of skin colour, religious and political affiliation, we all want the same things, we are driven by the same dreams, desires, instincts, greed, and evil.

Perhaps, around the same time, you also realised how alienating and draining some aspects of modern, first-world life can be, and set out to look for more of those out-of-the-box answers. You scoured websites and forums like many of us. Yet, unlike so many of us, you also mustered the resolve to start travelling and interacting with communities way beyond your home turf, to test those answers on your skin.

Like Danielle and some others, I applaud your candour in sharing this story with us. I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of. When I was your age I was a hardcore Communist, for two years in a row I was even president of the youth chapter for my region. I was profoundly convinced that Socialism was the panacea for all of the world's problems, because only an enlightened State could fully protect every citizen's interest and allocate productive resources wisely and fairly, as opposed to the rotting capitalistic system. Growing up, discovering other realities and other permutations of socialism and capitalism (London and the UK, for example), I would naturally drift towards a middle ground, albeit maintaining leftwing/liberal roots. I don't regret having espoused extreme or extremist positions in my youth, because that experience made me who I am now and still defines much of my stance on the society, especially its less privileged members.

I don't know who you are, really, Marcos. Your posts are always insightful, terse and balanced, as well as extremely well written (by the standard of a 23-yo whose first language isn't English, at least). So much that I am starting to suspect you're a young sociology student in disguise, probing fringe online communities on hot topics. Maybe you're not, and you're saying what you're saying simply because you know you who are, and who you want to be. Which, believe me, is a state of mind many have yet to experience in their late 40s, let alone in their 20s.

You know that famous etching by Goya, titled "the sleep of reason produces monsters". Besides all the scholarly interpretations it had over the years, the original meaning intended by the Painter was to signify that "fantasy divorced from reason produces impossible monsters; when united to it, generates beautiful art".

What monsters the impossible fantasies of Cornfed, Tsar and some others produce, it's for all to see. When intuition, creativity and optimism are leveraged by a rational, balanced view of the world, they yield lives that are living works of art, no matter how young and seemingly inexperienced the artist.

Moretorque · Post by **Moretorque** » June 15th, 2014, 9:32 am

Cornfed wrote:
MarcosZeitola wrote:What is 'TNB'?
Typical nigger behavior.

You are very focused on "the coming years" which is why you choose to sit on your butt and do nothing, waiting for "the coming years" to come?
Forming alliances online is not doing nothing. Like I said, I've lived and worked abroad for years. Currently though I am recuperating from an injury.

An injury from spouting off to your DADDY the black man?