American Feminist Views, That's right I strike again

[publicduende]

Cornfed, just don't argue with this moron, it's very clear that T.V brainwashing and the public school system have done the job they were perfectly designed to do by the elites which is to brainwash people into mindless zombies, I wish all the groups that make up the politically correct category(blacks, women, gays, liberals etc) were put on an island by themselves or were given a country with nothing but jungle forests like the Amazon and tell them to develop that piece of land into an advanced civilization using their draconian beliefs

LOL really?

Arguing with me, a mangina white knight liberal (not white, not gay) representative of the mindless zombie society brainwashed by TV and public school system, won't change a iota in your life. You will always hate large swathes of the population, you will continue to put stupid label on people who you see as happier, or more privileged, or simply less miserable than you. You probably haven't realised yet, but it's you, Cornfed and the usual suspects who have gone off on a forced exile in a desert island, full of burnt bridges and fruitless soil.

Funny you talk about "us" building advanced civilization when you are the ones who lack the basic social skills to blend into a community, let alone create it from scratch.

[Cornfed]

Arguing with me, a mangina white knight liberal (not white, not gay) representative of the mindless zombie society brainwashed by TV and public school system, won't change a iota in your life. You will always hate large swathes of the population, you will continue to put stupid label on people who you see as happier, or more privileged[..].

You seem to have gone off the rails lately. Has your wife finally lowered the boom on you? You seem to be lashing out against everyone. You seem to be much more nasty and vindictive than usual. Perhaps it is just a case of only being able to wear the mask for so long?

[OutWest]

In reality females have zero capacity to think for themselves and simply do what the men they think are in charge tell them.

...says a man with zero point nought real experience of women.

Why is this all or nothing either way? Things may be generally so in one aspect even while
many glaring exceptions thrive to disprove the rule. Intelligence distributions between the sexes
explain a lot- that women tend to be clumped together in the mid ranges while men are far more represented in both the low and extreme IQ ranges. Clearly, it would follow that men dominate areas of innovation and invention and the exceptional skills required for genuine leadership. To illustrate further, such cerebral games as Chess are entirely male dominated. The chessboard does not lie.

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/sexdifferences.aspx

A woman like Angela Merkel clearly illustrates what SOME women can do, though it is less common within females by far. The US could have traded Obama and Rhode Island for Merkel and come out far ahead, but of course, the Germans are smarter than that, as the US would have gotten the better end of the deal. My own daughter would be an illustration- she displays strong ability to self-teach, develop insight and solve problems on the fly, traits that are typically far stronger with men.

Borders are often grey with large overlaps. Just as surely, a country that is so politically correct- dogma bound, will eventually become disfunctionally moronic, (USA) as lady Marines are deployed, a woman's team is sent to get Ben Laden, and its bridges are built to be "Sensitive" to women, gays, and "People of color", rather than their engineering properties.

Such notions are as foolish as the Children's Crusades of the middle ages, and they will end as badly. Here is some useful insight, from a lesbian feminist no less.

http://ideas.time.com/2013/12/16/its-a- ... s-will-be/


What does it say about as society when it takes so much work to define the obvious?


Outwest

[publicduende]

You seem to have gone off the rails lately. Has your wife finally lowered the boom on you? You seem to be lashing out against everyone. You seem to be much more nasty and vindictive than usual. Perhaps it is just a case of only being able to wear the mask for so long?

Nah, man, I am still on the same rail. I am still, as always, reacting to people who call me a moron because I don't happen to subscribe to their twisted out of shape world view.

Against your "rosiest" predictions, my wife and I still love each other to bits. And the latest boom she lowered on me, just last week, is that she managed to cross-sell a lot more stuff to GE, one of her clients, thus making her company a neat £300K extra profit. She's up for a sweet bonus come next January, and that's on top of the Prince2 certification course she'll be paid to attend this year. Of course you and the likes of you will only be able to respond that it's the system that favours corporate hoes from the other side of the world, rather than British born and bred, hard-working wholesome men, or that she's only fronting a man and taking all the credit, etc.

She is the only female project manager (out of 13) and, just to pick up that point again, she does her job exactly as well as, if not better than, her male colleagues. To echo Outwest, biology and physiology only dictate general predispositions, everything else being a product of the environment (family upbringing, education, peers and social circles, etc.) and, of course, the good ol' free will which every human being on this planet has been endowed with. Her family was very poor and she had to win scholarship after scholarship to complete her Mechanical Engineering degree at one of the best private universities in Colombia. It was her choice to study well and hard, as she knew that was her only get out of poverty card. It was her choice to study English in Cambridge, where she met me, and it was her choice to fall in love and choose me as her lifelong partner.

Besides my wife and her stories, you see, a man can be happy with a woman he considers his peer in terms of dignity and ability, sharing pleasures and responsibilities without either party being under the other's thumb. And a man can be aware of the million issues that plague our society, some worse than others, some worsening faster than others, and maintain that awareness and critical mindset while still working in that system and benefiting from whatever good it can still bring him. These two concepts probably never touched you. Or, if they did, they led you to more misery and envy, instead of stimulating you to adapt, compromise, work harder if not smarter and improve your situation against whatever odds the gods of chance might have thrown at you.

Unlike Tsar, with his polished prose and the gracefully built yet fragile ivory tower from which he cries for help, you're just beyond repair. I don't think you're a bad person and I even agree with a few of your darker arguments on social decay and coming collapse.

It so happens, though, that I don't tend to place all of the blame for all of my problems on society (government, the education system, blacks and Jews) or women. Yes, some of what these categories of people do may well be part of the problem, but that umbrella statement applies to each one of us, black and white, male and female, bar none. You clearly could have done a lot more with your life and, had you done so, your views would have certainly been a lot more positive and a lot less self-defeating.

[Bitch_Slapper]

In reality females have zero capacity to think for themselves and simply do what the men they think are in charge tell them.

...says a man with zero point nought real experience of women.

Why is this all or nothing either way? Things may be generally so in one aspect even while
many glaring exceptions thrive to disprove the rule. Intelligence distributions between the sexes
explain a lot- that women tend to be clumped together in the mid ranges while men are far more represented in both the low and extreme IQ ranges. Clearly, it would follow that men dominate areas of innovation and invention and the exceptional skills required for genuine leadership. To illustrate further, such cerebral games as Chess are entirely male dominated. The chessboard does not lie.

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/sexdifferences.aspx

A woman like Angela Merkel clearly illustrates what SOME women can do, though it is less common within females by far. The US could have traded Obama and Rhode Island for Merkel and come out far ahead, but of course, the Germans are smarter than that, as the US would have gotten the better end of the deal. My own daughter would be an illustration- she displays strong ability to self-teach, develop insight and solve problems on the fly, traits that are typically far stronger with men.

Well, women have no business being leaders or authority figures, particularly over men. And that's regardless of any intelligence distributions between the sexes, or any problem solving capability women may possess.

[starchild5]

Still stuck with Male Vs Female endless cycle of going nowhere.....WAKE UP Guys....

We were Androgynous ...Male and female were in one body...Its so retarded guys...Why are we blaming each other? WHY...When we both are victims of manipulation...

You wouldn't believe the truth unless Rothschild sponsored brainwashed schools and universities regurgitated it 100000 times.

BE FREE....Stop Fighting for a useless cause that has no ground in reality whatsoever....

Male and Female...BOTH ARE WRONG

The Truth is when we both are ONE....

ok its posted on a rant thread..so carry on ..

[Yohan]

I have met a lot of American hating name calling adults on here. I have been called a troll and fused at over stupid crap in my view. However, before you start hating my views "men" mostly, have you taken a moment to consider how you see things vs. how I see things.

While I understand what you want to say, you will also have to understand that most men here are very angry. We all posting in this forum and similar forums related to men's rights, foreign wife etc. had very bad experiences in our past.

Do not ask me how I was treated by women while still in Europe, and 'women' does not only mean in relation to a 'girlfriend' or somebody you consider as an equal partner. I was always badly treated by women, who were not my 'equal partners', this means while I was still a child. This includes my mother, half-sisters, female neighbours, female teachers and together with the Catholic Church in Central Europe this is really a bad mixture to think about how to respect a 'female equal'.

I left and settled down elsewhere, married a foreign wife 38 years ago, now no troubles at all, but I do not see a reason why I should remain silent.

[Zionosis]

Yet, absolutely no proof exists that a woman is inferior to a man tout-court. Whatever a man can do, a woman can do, besides perhaps certain types of physical activities. Whatever a woman can do, a man can do too, besides getting pregnant.

Look around you. How much of the stuff you see was invented, designed, extracted/collected, constructed by (or sometimes under the supervision of) and installed by men? Probably all of it, right? If females are equal, why don't countries in wars or otherwise competing with other countries put them to work designing new weapons, better ships and such? Why has this never happened? Of course females often have been put to work in war time, but always in menial processing work. The fact is that females have nothing to offer intellectually and their role is to do menial, background, quality of life tasks while men take all the intellectual and practical steps to move society forward. At any non-insane time in history this was an accepted and obvious fact. It is clear that you are just in the business of spouting PC nonsense in order to keep your job.

Cornfed, just don't argue with this moron, it's very clear that T.V brainwashing and the public school system have done the job they were perfectly designed to do by the elites which is to brainwash people into mindless zombies, I wish all the groups that make up the politically correct category(blacks, women, gays, liberals etc) were put on an island by themselves or were given a country with nothing but jungle forests like the Amazon and tell them to develop that piece of land into an advanced civilization using their draconian beliefs

Couldn't agree more. Whoever denies racial differences you shouldn't even argue with because they are too beyond reason to argue with. Obviously they never learned biology or evolution or even simply made their own observations but just believed the TV when it said race doesn't exist and we all bleed red. blah blah blah. Social construct blah blah blah.

I have tried arguing with them but it's pointless. You just have to accept they are retarded. Just like it's useless to try to explain to people here http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum/
That the earth is a sphere.

It doesn't matter how much common sense and scientific facts you provide at the end of the day they simply don't even want to believe the truth so it's all just pointless.

[Jester]

In reality females have zero capacity to think for themselves and simply do what the men they think are in charge tell them. Hence it is functionally sensible to think of them as property, as all sane societies have.

Seems to work for gangstas and rappers.

If they do not think of themselves as the property of their husbands (or fathers or pimps) then by default they will be the property of the elite, which is rather unsatisfactory given that the elite are currently a bunch of genocidal criminals. Feminism is essentially the idea that females are the property of the elite.

Absolute truth. Karl Marx actually preached and advocated for this. "Women in common", meaning in practice, all women accessible to the Communist elite. Ayn Rand, a Jewish-Russian refugee from Bolshevism, chronicled this in her book "We The Living".

And today, the foul-mouthed PUA-serial-rutting tatted slobs with the backward ball caps fancy themselves as junior-G-man minions of a nihilistic elite whenever they brag about defiling the already-defiled.

And they are right.

Trying to have an equal relationship with a female doesn't work because, aside from the very absurdity of it, females are hard wired to suck up to male authority figures while shitting on other men. Any meaningful relationship will be based on the man being in charge.

To be fair, the lovey-dovey kissy-kissy Romeo-and-Juliet thing DOES seem to work while you are both living in your parents' houses. But it evaporates like dew in the morning sun when the two of you are on your own. THEN, all of a sudden, a real man would be MAKING MONEY!!

I think a financially depenent female, one who is staying home raising multiple kids, will (in the absence of media indoctrination with romance novels or soap operas etc) be loyal, so long as her man pays for all needs.

I think it is the FINANCIALLY EMANCIPATED females who seek powerful men, even without getting money from them. 'Cause a woman always needs a man. Even whores need a pimp.

[Jester]

It is not about a gender or race sucking, it is about acknowledging generalized differences and acting accordingly. Females are not like men, children are not like adults, dogs are not like people, blacks are not like whites and so on, and treating them the same is the route to disaster. For example, suppose a teacher attempts to treat his young students as his equals. Far from appreciating this, the students will (rightly) regard the teacher as a p***y and behave badly, while being unhappy about the situation and resenting the teacher not doing what they instinctively realize is his duty to provide leadership and direction. It is the same with females and men.

+1

Successful leftists, like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, literally alter their speech when they are talking to Black crowds.

Any good salesman politician will talk to people in a way they can "hear". Nothing wrong with that.

But the Leftist-Nihilists don't want you to actually point it out. THEY practice White condescension ("they want to put you people back in chains" - Joe Biden), Alpha-male protectiveness (Bill defending Hilary after Gennifer Flowers scandal) , rich-guy posturing and catting-around (Jack Kennedy's birthday surprise from Marilyn Monroe in front of his wife and all America)..... but always bear in mind, they are AGAINST all that. They regard themselves, and are regarded as, LEADERS in the fight against THE PATRIARCHY. Yet their techniques could not be more condescending, more controlling, more misogynist.

A HEALTHY leader might PLAYFULLY ape what his kids, or students do, for a bit. It's OK to sip pretend-tea with a daughter, or play on the carpet with kids, etc. But as Cornfed says, you can't start believing your own bullshit. Kids need a Dad, more than an adult playmate. Students need a teacher, more than a chum. And women need a master, more than a shopping buddy.

[publicduende]

I don't think I am perfect but I think I am pretty good. I honestly don't see why I have to change anything. I haven't changed anything since I was young all the way til now and all I have really become is smarter and more knowledgeable, but other than that my ideals and hobbies are still the same. I see no need to try to re-invent myself. As far as changing the personality. Sorry but that's going a bit too far. I like who I am and don't want to change. Sure being a jerk idiot with no morals and obnoxious might get white women interested but I wouldn't want to become that.

You don't have to change into a douchebag, and certainly I am not advocating you do it. But, at least judging from the pic you posted on here, you seem to be good looking and in shape. Yet you complain you have little attention from the local (Aussie) young ladies. Sorry for sounding blunt but...something doesn't sound right. No idea what it is, maybe it's the way you approach (or, rather, do not approach) them, or the vibes you project.

And well, I just have to read the following paragraphs of your post (as well as this one viewtopic.php?p=185048#185048) to perceive that yes, you're just another of those delusional guys who convince themselves that it's all about their race and genetics, and that of their potential/desired partners, and moving to another country will magically solve all of your social/dating/celibacy problems.

I have never denied that races exist and they carry slightly different genetic sets. If you want to argue with me on that, there's cipher nought to argue about because we're on the same page. If you though want to convince (or delude) yourself that race alone explains the average behaviour of a society, or community, you can walk alone from there, I won't follow you.

Also the different races of human are scientifically sub species. Keep in mind that different sub species of other things have different behavioral genetics and it's no coincidence that most white people act like each other and that most Asian people act like each other. It's behavioral genetics just like certain sub species of dog have a tendency to act a certain way. This is basic biology knowledge.

Most white people act like each other and most Asian people act like each other because they have, literally, millennia of history piled on their society and culture. "Behavioral genetics", as you call it, doesn't explain more than those pseudo-science textbooks en vogue in the 19th century, when physicians would try to prove a positive correlation between ugly and deformed facial features and a tendency to commit violent crimes. As if those deformities and degenerations weren't caused by the most abject misery, abusive families and non-existent hygiene standards.

Your argument about dogs has some elements of truth, but it doesn't explain why dogs can be so easily trained to express skills and qualities that never belonged to their genetic predisposition. You could have sweet and playful Dobermans, and vicious Chihuahuas. It might not have occurred to you, but dogs have personalities of their own, and a lot of difference makes how you brought them up, how much love and attention and interaction they had from both humans and other dogs, etc. Surprise surprise, same stuff that shapes human behaviour.

There is a reason for more than you would initially think. This is also why if you throw multiple races of people into one country they still act very differently. For instance the Asians in the USA still act similar to where they came from and cause less crime than even the white people. The black people in the USA act very similar to their African counterparts and rape women at 2.3x the rate that white men do in the USA and are incarcerated at 6.8x the rate that white men are.
Doesn't matter where you go in the world it's the same for these things. France, UK, Australia, USA, South Africa, etc.

Hmm...does it help you to know that black Africans were originally introduced all over Europe and the New World as slaves and hard labourers, considered non-humans, and certainly non-citizens? Does it help you to know that they have, for centuries, lived at the fringes of society and only in the past 50/60 years they have started to thrive and achieve on a par with their privileged white counterparts?

If you could bring up two children, one black African and one white Caucasian, under the same socio-economical conditions, give them the same loving parents and the cultural stimuli of a middle class family, send them to Harvard medical school...are you really sure the former would be still more inclined to underperform and be more prone to abuse, violence and crime than the latter?

You'd better learn some basic statistics before making such outlandish claims. Correlation is not causation. You could say blacks are 2.3 more likely to rape women than white Caucasians. Then I could say blacks are 2.3 times more likely to be brought up in absentee or abusive families, have sub-standard schooling and no other role models than convicted felons and rapists. Which of these two facts, you think, explains the violent behaviour of black people: the fact that they are black, or the fact that a higher number of them is (and stays) at the fringes of society?

I call you on that BS, and it's the kind BS that hurts not just the black community, but every man of common sense. How would you feel if I said that Australia, as a giant penal colony, was home to the least desirable subjects of the British Crown and, as a consequence of that, you have a much higher genetic predisposition to have be low IQ, mentally insane and violent individual? However based on some relevant facts, how completely baseless and, above all, plain cruel would such a statement be?

Also as far as you getting rejected and feeling bad about it. For me personally every white woman in the entire world could hate me and I honestly wouldn't care because for a while now I haven't even been interested in white women at all so what they think about me doesn't really matter since I don't even want to marry them or even date them.

Funny you say that while you look forward to experiencing life in Japan. Once you savour how picky (when not openly racist) and distant Japanese people (and women) can be, you'll probably have a taste of your own racial theories pill. And it'll be good to you.

[Cornfed]

Yet you complain you have little attention from the local (Aussie) young ladies. Sorry for sounding blunt but...something doesn't sound right.

Of course there is something is not right. It is that Australian females are horrible monsters like AW.

Hmm...does it help you to know that black Africans were originally introduced all over Europe and the New World as slaves and hard labourers, considered non-humans, and certainly non-citizens? Does it help you to know that they have, for centuries, lived at the fringes of society and only in the past 50/60 years they have started to thrive and achieve on a par with their privileged white counterparts?

Really? Could you list some of their achievements? How would you refute the idea that they are a parasitical scourge standing around receiving handouts and committing lots of crime as well?

If you could bring up two children, one black African and one white Caucasian, under the same socio-economical conditions, give them the same loving parents and the cultural stimuli of a middle class family, send them to Harvard medical school...are you really sure the former would be still more inclined to underperform and be more prone to abuse, violence and crime than the latter?

Yes, this has been studied to death.
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Wade.shtml

[publicduende]

Yet you complain you have little attention from the local (Aussie) young ladies. Sorry for sounding blunt but...something doesn't sound right.

Of course there is something is not right. It is that Australian females are horrible monsters like AW.

Absolutely. From the Americas to Oceania, Earth has yet to yield the woman who truly deserves your gracious arse

Really? Could you list some of their achievements? How would you refute the idea that they are a parasitical scourge standing around receiving handouts and committing lots of crime as well?

Random case, straight from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Howard_Latimer

Eventually funds were raised to pay Gray $400 for the freedom of George Latimer.

As a free man, Mr. Latimer was able to thrive, gain employment and become a notable inventor.

All things being equal...blacks can performs as good as whites.

If you could bring up two children, one black African and one white Caucasian, under the same socio-economical conditions, give them the same loving parents and the cultural stimuli of a middle class family, send them to Harvard medical school...are you really sure the former would be still more inclined to underperform and be more prone to abuse, violence and crime than the latter?

Yes, this has been studied to death.
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Wade.shtml

I haven't read A Troublesome Inheritance, the book the reviewer is talking about, but I did read Clifford Geertz's The Interpretation of Cultures, which is often cited as Wade's polar opposite stance. You actually stirred up my curiosity, I'll buy Wade's book soon, since reviews are only as good as the reviewer's own opinion.

I would say that both genetics and culture shape who we are. I don't see Wade's thesis as particular controversial. Every geneticist and evolutionary biologist worth their salt knows that gene mutations are responsible for higher chances of adaptation to historical environmental conditions: hot climate, desert winds, lack of water, etc. What I think some liberal circles found controversial is that his thesis can be - and you show me it indeed is - misinterpreted as the main tool to explain, or even predict human behaviour and things like success in life (which, as we know, doesn't depend on IQ alone).

We are complex beings and genetics alone is but a sediment of history. The environment we're born in and which nurtures us, which bears the events that shape our lives and your beliefs, has is infinitely more powerful than our DNA.

If anything, Wade's work doesn't explain why you, a fine specimen of the white Caucasian race, have turned out such an complete and utter failure in life, and your high IQ brain has to resort to blame about 90% of the world population for issues that are yours, and only yours.

[Cornfed]

All things being equal...blacks can performs as good as whites.

How do you actually know this? Would you say that whites with retard level IQs, limited powers of abstraction and a propensity to chimp out in the manner of blacks have the same potential as other whites?

your high IQ brain has to resort to blame about 90% of the world population for issues that are yours, and only yours

So I am personally responsible for the slutification of Western females, the economic decline of the West and the other issues we talk about on here? I wouldn’t have thought I was so influential and important.

[publicduende]

All things being equal...blacks can performs as good as whites.

How do you actually know this? Would you say that whites with retard level IQs, limited powers of abstraction and a propensity to chimp out in the manner of blacks have the same potential as other whites?

A retarded man is a retarded man regardless of race and skin colour, don't you think?

your high IQ brain has to resort to blame about 90% of the world population for issues that are yours, and only yours

So I am personally responsible for the slutification of Western females, the economic decline of the West and the other issues we talk about on here? I wouldn’t have thought I was so influential and important.

The exact opposite. You think "slutified" Western females, the economic decline of the West and other issues we talk about on here are the only causes of your misfortunes.

And the key isn't whether you are influential and important to an online community like this, or anybody out there. It's how much in control you have been with your life and your life choices.

It's quite clear to everyone that 99% of your views are your way to deflect responsibility from yourself. If you had been a quality man, you would have had easy access to women, from the Ameriskanks you so despise to young, model-looking Filipina virgins. As you are, you don't stand a chance.