This is one of the more interesting things you have ever said.MarcosZeitola wrote:If you play your cards right you can have your cake and eat it too... sex with immoral sluts in the West, and ultimately marriage to a good woman abroad.
No wonder why Elliot Rodger lost it - He was in narcissismvil
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It may be a US territory but that song is 100% Latino culture, not American, and that song is better, funner, cleaner music than that trash rap that the American college kids like to play.The music in video #2 was made by Don Omar who is from Puerto Rico which is a US territory. That song played all the time in California so I don't know what you're talking about.
. And it gets played in the US sometimes yes of course, but it's more played way far more often and is far more popular in Latin countries in my opinion. I never hear that song in any night clubs or bars here in Dallas , but I always heard it in the Latin clubs here and abroad.
And yes, I still claim that the people in that Italian video #2 were way more classy than the American college party people in the video. You can see it in their spirit, their mannerisms, the way they carried themselves. For sure, I don't see much narcissism in the Italian video nor any trashy looking and trashy acting narcissism but I see a ton and a ton of it in the American video. As far as these Italians (mainly female Italians) saying f**k this, f**k that, bitch this shit that, well I can't confirm nor deny it but at the very least that crowd in that video#2 does not look like that type of people. It doesn't add up or make sense to me, at least not for the people I saw in that Italian video. Maybe a dude here or a girl there says a few curse words during the entire night but the American ones say curse words all the time. Almost non stop. Big difference. Well, excluding these Italian videos, if the Italians are as you say, then they have become westernized is all. So be it then. What about Asia , Latin America, and Russia ??? Everything I've seen and read and during my travels to Peru, colombia and Philippines , I never ever saw douche bag crowd like what is in the American video I posted . I also never heard any constant cursing from the ladies while partying and my spanish is pretty good, I would know if I heard it. Haven't been to Russia but I suspect the guys arnt narcisistic douche bags not are their women saying the f word every 2 seconds .
Man, The women in that video are disgusting and I'm sort of freaked out anyone can't see this very clearly. I know for a fact for my travels that young party people don't run around acting so trashy like that and cursing all night. That just isn't so. I never saw it in my 4 trips to Peru, and in my time in medellin and I went all over bar and club scene there and in the Philippines. I saw nothing in these countries that was anything like sleeve and trashiest and potty mouths of hose American women.
And eurobat, can you not see the differences in these American clubbing girls vs the colombian clubbing girls here at my site ? http://www.globaldatingsolution.com/wom ... tlife.html
There are differences and it's clear as day.
There are differences and it's clear as day.
I agree with you but now you've jumped from Italy to Columbia!steve55 wrote:And eurobat, can you not see the differences in these American clubbing girls vs the colombian clubbing girls here at my site ? http://www.globaldatingsolution.com/wom ... tlife.html
There are differences and it's clear as day.
Those girls look much friendlier and happier than the trashy Italian girls here covered in tattoos with dyed hair and very cliquish and unapproachable. Not all but a good majority like the US.
It's unfortunate Steve that I do not like Latin American culture that much and I'm not attracted to Latina's at all. If I was I would be willing to give Columbia, Costa Rica and Mexico a shot. But you do have a good comparison there.
I have been out plenty of times and heard an Italian girl go on a cussing rampage just for fun. The only thing that's different is they sound a bit cooler I'm not sure what makes you think Americans are the only ones that do that? Maybe you get thrown off by the language or create this dream version of what Italy is really like in your head. You can come live here as long as I have and see that's not true.steve55 wrote:As far as these Italians (mainly female Italians) saying f**k this, f**k that, bitch this shit that, well I can't confirm nor deny it but at the very least that crowd in that video#2 does not look like that type of people.
Italians aren't vulgar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1DLUkP24RI
There's by far just as many trashy girls here in Lombardy as there is in California. That doesn't mean the entire country is full of trashy girls but to let you know they do exist here.
For the last time they are "westernized" as Italy is part of the west. And you won't get a country here in Europe that has a higher approval rating of US than Italy. So it's only logical a country with such a high approval rating of the US would copy it's culture and mentality.steve55 wrote: Well, excluding these Italian videos, if the Italians are as you say, then they have become westernized is all.



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Elliot's father is plenty wealthy and has tons of money.
Traveling overseas would have as easy as drinking a glass of water.
Some men just don't feel compelled to travel overseas.
I knew guys in college who couldn't get dates at all and to this day, they still haven't traveled overseas.
Traveling overseas would have as easy as drinking a glass of water.
Some men just don't feel compelled to travel overseas.
I knew guys in college who couldn't get dates at all and to this day, they still haven't traveled overseas.
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If I was younger then the answer would be yes, but now I'm far too old to go around "slutting it up". Grey hairs and past my prime theres few that want me.MarcosZeitola wrote:So that's your strategy?eurobrat wrote:This is one of the more interesting things you have ever said.MarcosZeitola wrote:If you play your cards right you can have your cake and eat it too... sex with immoral sluts in the West, and ultimately marriage to a good woman abroad.
I am however leaving Italy because life is too difficult here, the girls are immoral not the kind of people that I thought they were and there's pretty much no future in this country for someone like me.
They weren't wealthy, his dad was in lots of debt from refinancing his house to make a documentary that flopped.SilverEnergy wrote:Elliot's father is plenty wealthy and has tons of money.
Traveling overseas would have as easy as drinking a glass of water.
Some men just don't feel compelled to travel overseas.
I knew guys in college who couldn't get dates at all and to this day, they still haven't traveled overseas.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/27/justi ... er-wealth/
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They weren't living in poverty and did not have to worry about missing a meal.eurobrat wrote:They weren't wealthy, his dad was in lots of debt from refinancing his house to make a documentary that flopped.SilverEnergy wrote:Elliot's father is plenty wealthy and has tons of money.
Traveling overseas would have as easy as drinking a glass of water.
Some men just don't feel compelled to travel overseas.
I knew guys in college who couldn't get dates at all and to this day, they still haven't traveled overseas.
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/05/27/justi ... er-wealth/
They had enough money to take trips overseas.
I'm sure they have more money than most on HA.
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It's not just about the women, it's more so about the present state of the society itself.MarcosZeitola wrote:I did it in my teenage years. Now I settled down with one woman and I couldn't care less for the whole scene. For those who have the situation, the drive and the opportunity however, I can heartily recommend it. It's good for people to get some sense of experience before settling down, if only so little.eurobrat wrote:If I was younger then the answer would be yes, but now I'm far too old to go around "slutting it up". Grey hairs and past my prime theres few that want me.
Not much of a surprise, eh?eurobrat wrote:I am however leaving Italy because life is too difficult here, the girls are immoral not the kind of people that I thought they were and there's pretty much no future in this country for someone like me.
Americans insisting European women are so much better then American women are very, very thick. The West is the West, after all. The type of egocentric feminist career-c**ts you have in America, you'll find in Italy, Germany, Eastern, Western and North Europe. Hell, you'll even find them in many Chinese countries such as China, Japan and South-Korea.
It's a lot more than that and I would have to go in detail about my life here in Italy and how this country is on a dramatic downfall into a goulash of shit. It would take me days to write.
But overall, there's pretty much nothing here for me not even career opportunities. And actually the women aren't easy nor are they traditional. They're in a weird kind of limbo that's hard to describe.
What's your strategy?MarcosZeitola wrote:So that's your strategy?eurobrat wrote:This is one of the more interesting things you have ever said.MarcosZeitola wrote:If you play your cards right you can have your cake and eat it too... sex with immoral sluts in the West, and ultimately marriage to a good woman abroad.
Most Italian women sucks and are shit..eurobrat wrote:It's not just about the women, it's more so about the present state of the society itself.MarcosZeitola wrote:I did it in my teenage years. Now I settled down with one woman and I couldn't care less for the whole scene. For those who have the situation, the drive and the opportunity however, I can heartily recommend it. It's good for people to get some sense of experience before settling down, if only so little.eurobrat wrote:If I was younger then the answer would be yes, but now I'm far too old to go around "slutting it up". Grey hairs and past my prime theres few that want me.
Not much of a surprise, eh?eurobrat wrote:I am however leaving Italy because life is too difficult here, the girls are immoral not the kind of people that I thought they were and there's pretty much no future in this country for someone like me.
Americans insisting European women are so much better then American women are very, very thick. The West is the West, after all. The type of egocentric feminist career-c**ts you have in America, you'll find in Italy, Germany, Eastern, Western and North Europe. Hell, you'll even find them in many Chinese countries such as China, Japan and South-Korea.
It's a lot more than that and I would have to go in detail about my life here in Italy and how this country is on a dramatic downfall into a goulash of shit. It would take me days to write.
But overall, there's pretty much nothing here for me not even career opportunities. And actually the women aren't easy nor are they traditional. They're in a weird kind of limbo that's hard to describe.
That's my experience here as i rent an appartment and i have a good panel to make an opinion.
Most of the time they are loud,rude,thinks that they are some kind of superior,are very demanding for erverything..i feel they have taken the lead in Italy..Italian men are totally behind,you have a country where guys stay at parents home after 30 because they can't catch the society how it's working.
I got a lot of better feeling with German women or Nordic as they don't have the revenge attitude i found with Italian women.
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European..American women..why some guys here dreams of Europe like a liberation land where women will be easygoing,non feminist,non consumerist and respect men?MarcosZeitola wrote:I did it in my teenage years. Now I settled down with one woman and I couldn't care less for the whole scene. For those who have the situation, the drive and the opportunity however, I can heartily recommend it. It's good for people to get some sense of experience before settling down, if only so little.eurobrat wrote:If I was younger then the answer would be yes, but now I'm far too old to go around "slutting it up". Grey hairs and past my prime theres few that want me.
Not much of a surprise, eh?eurobrat wrote:I am however leaving Italy because life is too difficult here, the girls are immoral not the kind of people that I thought they were and there's pretty much no future in this country for someone like me.
Americans insisting European women are so much better then American women are very, very thick. The West is the West, after all. The type of egocentric feminist career-c**ts you have in America, you'll find in Italy, Germany, Eastern, Western and North Europe. Hell, you'll even find them in many Chinese countries such as China, Japan and South-Korea.
Wherever women are westernized, you will see lowered birth rates, less traditional families, and much more women who attach greater value to their careers and personal success then to any relationship they might have. Relations are therefore often fleeting and people rarely settle down before thirty, especially in the higher classes. People live a very hedonistic lifestyle. You will see this in many countries.
To say that American women are inferior to all others as some people say is preposterous, as you'll find equally inferior women in whatever shithole of a country you decide to visit. The only difference is the number of these women and the prevalence of this mindset in the individual area or country you go to. But the mindset is not an American one.
I always said I was keen on leaving the West as a whole, a term I use very widely. To me the West includes all nation that are greatly westernized both physically as well as mentally. If it's shallow friendships, shallow flings and the newest gadgets you want, the West is your place. If it's a good woman you want, go East and go rural. That's my experience, anyway.
Time to wake up dudes here...don't loose your time going to a Western countries if you are going there for their women.
Take a trip to Latin America or better to SEA especially the Phillippines or Thailand,don't miss your precious time,money for the almost same bullshit you have in America.
Just listen some of those guys who are living here in Europe.
If Europe was so great for women why you think Thailand is flooded with British,French and European men?
I've been to the US,i live in France..it's almost the same garbage..the only advantage of France is that they are less agressive,are less anti males and more feminine but that's all.
It's nothing when it comes to find real differences with the US,you won't get an experience who will change your reality.
Italy has indeed been disappointing for me and a lot of others I have spoken with.green1976 wrote:
Most Italian women sucks and are shit..
That's my experience here as i rent an appartment and i have a good panel to make an opinion.
Most of the time they are loud,rude,thinks that they are some kind of superior,are very demanding for erverything..i feel they have taken the lead in Italy..Italian men are totally behing,you have a country where guys stay at parents home after 30 because they can't catch the society how it's working.
I got a lot of better feeling with German women or Nordic as they don't have the revenge attitude i found with Italian women.
But, not all Italian girls are loud and rude but a good majority are, maybe 75% or so. Italian men have fallen behind but I don't see the girls here going anywhere either

I haven't felt that the girls here have this revenge attitude. But I do know a lot of them look really disappointed in how their lives are turning out and they do have the entitlement factor that their looks should get them everything they wanted in life, just like their American counterparts.
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