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Renata wrote:Why did the article release pics of the kids, this is so embarassing for them already that their mom left them for a criminal.
The picture in the Guardian article and in Tommy's video are of Her and the kids, which is why Tommy believes that the children are bi-racial and she's a dark skinned BW going after a loser White dude in a US Prison....

It's likely like many dark skin Blacks she was made fun of in school. It's likely she determined early in life that if she ever had kids, they were not going to be dark skin and ridiculed like she was as a child.

This is more proof that if you're a thug, even a White one, Black women want you more than the regular Black men who happens to work at UPS...

Black women in the UK are not immune, they watch the same TV shows, movies and music we listen too...

That said, I will grade them a step or two ahead because the majority are educated there and don't think it's special.


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E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:I saw the "phewwwwtiful bean footage".
This is even why fat country stateside White women are better stewards of good men than Black American women are.

Sidenote: I hope that if Tommy Sotomayor moves to the NYC, that he moves to the Bronx. I have a funny feeling he's going to move to either Brooklyn or Harlem, but I hope he doesn't make a bad choice. #IJS
Tommy doesn't like ratchet behavior, so I doubt it will be the Bronx and for sure not any messed up parts of Queens either. He has a car, so if he's going to spend six months or so in the Big Apple, he'll have to leave his car in LA (another location he mentioned moving too) or Atlanta and use public transport/taxis or he'll have to find parking, which will automatically put him in a upper middle class part of NYC; those neighborhoods do exist.

Since people like to regularly threaten his life, my guess is no Harlem, no Bronx, no Queens near the projects. Manhattan for even a hole in the wall is expensive and I doubt he wants to spend 50% of his internet income on rent in Manhattan.

I would agree that most White women are better stewards of children because the majority of them are not single mothers (34% vs 70%). Their children are usually the product of a failed marriage.
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E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:
SilverEnergy wrote:^^^
True, there are many complaints from European black men about European black women and how they like the thugs.

Just like African American women, a growing number of European black women find clean cut black men boring but are liked more by the white women.

And a number of European black women just don't like or date European black men.

But I still think that European black women are slightly better than African American women.

Black men in America or Europe should just ditch western black women and go for other races of women or black women out of western society.
SilverEnergy, sometimes I do feel that your information is derived from opinion of a couple of heads. This is not me taking jabs at you in any kind of way.
Furthermore (and based on what I've just stated), I`m sure that there are vast differences between mainland European Africans than UK Africans. You're painting with the generalization brush that a continent reflects the behavior ubiquitously of its residents; that's why countries exist on continents; they usually define their own culture.

Now mind you, there are countries within the same continent which have very similar qualities (Canada and the US of Gay)...and there are times that are countries with similar personalities and traits such as the US of Gay and Australia.
I wanted to avoid a geographical discussion in this thread.....as the last time I took a test in geography was in the 9th grade.

The UK is still a part of the European Union and it's easier for me to mention the term "European blacks" because I don't want to get into a discussion about the differences between blacks in different countries in Europe.....we can save that for another thread and time and I don't really know the differences between the blacks in all of the European countries and could really care less.....

We could get technical but the other posters know exactly what I mean when I said "European Blacks" as it was in reference to black men complaining about UK black women and the video about the UK woman that was posted.

Saying that and to stay on topic, I understand why black men complain about UK black women and even I would avoid them.

Just like when we say "western women" which is a term used commonly on this website, we all know that western women can vary from state to state, country to country but as a collective unit, they do share common characteristics and I feel that as a WHOLE the blacks in the UK and other European countries are very different from blacks who live in the African continent, regardless if blacks from different countries in Europe are different from one another.

I try not generalize but I assume that the average person of normal intelligence will understand what I am trying to say without getting too geographically technical.

I think that many black men would say that black women from Africa and latin America are fundamentally different than western blacks, although all western blacks aren't the same, as a whole they still share common characteristics.
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djfourmoney wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:I saw the "phewwwwtiful bean footage".
This is even why fat country stateside White women are better stewards of good men than Black American women are.

Sidenote: I hope that if Tommy Sotomayor moves to the NYC, that he moves to the Bronx. I have a funny feeling he's going to move to either Brooklyn or Harlem, but I hope he doesn't make a bad choice. #IJS
Tommy doesn't like ratchet behavior, so I doubt it will be the Bronx and for sure not any messed up parts of Queens either. He has a car, so if he's going to spend six months or so in the Big Apple, he'll have to leave his car in LA (another location he mentioned moving too) or Atlanta and use public transport/taxis or he'll have to find parking, which will automatically put him in a upper middle class part of NYC; those neighborhoods do exist.

Since people like to regularly threaten his life, my guess is no Harlem, no Bronx, no Queens near the projects. Manhattan for even a hole in the wall is expensive and I doubt he wants to spend 50% of his internet income on rent in Manhattan.

I would agree that most White women are better stewards of children because the majority of them are not single mothers (34% vs 70%). Their children are usually the product of a failed marriage.
The Bronx is mostly Hispanic (many are low and working class and some are semi-ig'nant but they wouldn't f.uck with Tommy and comport themselves better than E. Harlemites any day) if you avoid Gun Hill Road/232nd-241st Street. The worst thing that would happen to Tommy is that Spanish-speaking people would talk "tonterias" in Spanish about him with a few chuckles if they are bigoted and/or goofy a.ssclowns, but that's the worst that would happen to him in The Bronx. The best Bronx neighborhood would be off of the 1 train, which would be Riverdale. It's expensive as all-get-out, and hardly any ratchet behaviour there. He can jump on the 1 local taking that to 168th where he can jump on the A-express or the C-local train which would take him through eastside Manhattan quickly on the A especially. On the contrary, Castle Hill is the worst Hispanic neighborhood in The Bronx (even though J-H.o. grew up there).

E. Harlem s.ucks a.ss. The Duane Reade at the corner of Lexington and 125th (all the Bronx trains run through there and the Hispanic chicks are scared going through there half the time due to Black guys always hollering at them) has bulletholes out the a.ss from people always spraying shots from project windows and drive-bys. W. Harlem going towards the Dominican neighborhood called Washington Heights is better. Dominicans are slowing coming down W 155th and Amsterdam into W. Harlem taking it over with the hair salons and their bodegas. Europeans are moving into the brickstones in central and W. Harlem. E. Harlem has projects there which are still s.hitholes. So Tommy probably wouldn't mind Harlem as long as its central Harlem in a brickstone that's at least 5-8 blocks north of 125th, which is the hustling bustling main street in Harlem. Even Whites and Europeans are scared-s.hitless on 125th and quickly run through those streets. They NEVER speak to Black people. Sometimes they will speak to Hispanics at the store and/or in passing but nothing else when it comes to Blacks and the Africans there.

Speaking of Africans, they had taken over all the soul food joints in Harlem, and the food is expensive by the lb. and sucks for lack of a better word.

F.uck Harlem (except for emcees McGruff, Ma$e, the late Big L, Tanboys, Cam'ron/Dipset, A$AP Mob, and etc.). Now back to The Bronx.

The worst neighborhoods in the Bronx are Morris Heights (which is predominately Black) (actually any Bronx stop off of the B and the D are ghetto!!), Castle Hill (which is predominantly NuyoRican and some Dominicans), and Gun Hill Road (crazy West Indians there...your girl from Scandal Kerry Washington is from there). Ever wonder why she "looks Black" but kinda doesn't have a "typical" Black phenotype, well she's Jamerican that's why. And some Jamaicans and Jamericans are mixed with a lot of Euro-British-Anglo blood, two examples: Christopher "Kid" Reid and the late Dwight "Heavy D" Meyers.

The best neighborhoods are N of Fordham Road. Fordham Road used to be predominantly Black and the PUerto Ricans, Mexicans, and Dominicans took it over in the last 10 years that quickly!! ....more best neighborhoods in The Bronx are Bedford Park (mostly working class Hispanics and Middle Eastern people - they actually say "Hello" and "Have a good day" in that part of the borough...I s.hit you not.) and parts of Sputen Duyvil.

Maybe my experiences are different because I'm looked at as a fair-complexion-having Dominican or Puerto Rican and they treat me alright in The Bronx whereas in southside Jamaica Queens (full of dark-skinned Blacks at the time), I had to fight weekly just because I looked "suspect [as in gay because I was perceived as light-skinned]" and have to fight to prove I wasn't a punk whether or not I've won the fight. ...which is why my abuela relocated me to a predominantly Puerto Rican neighborhood in The Bronx in the middle of my childhood. Cats looking like a non-clownish version of Kevin Hart, Mr. Cheeks-looking, DMX-looking, Juvenile-the-rapper-looking dudes trying to "scrap" with me on a weekly basis....wasn't fun after awhile.

Tommy should move to Bedford Park section of The Bronx too.

Now if Tommy moves to Brooklyn, he should move to where the Ashkenazi/Hasidic Jews and Russians live, which is Bay Ridge, parts of Bensonhurst, and Mapleton. Bensonhurst is not throwed off like it used to be in the 80s....don't go there with the Hip-Hop references. Compton is as Chicano as southern Texas nowadays. #QuidProQuo #MrLA you are lol

The 7 train is the upper-echelon of NYC trains so much that you hardly see Blacks, Puerto Ricans or Dominicans on it. All you see are Zboy1's, Winston's, Repatriate's, Joe Pesci's and the occasional Chibolo's and ElReyBoludo's (Latino but not from the Caribbean but of S. American stock) on there. Once you get past Queensbridge and Quensboro by staying on the 7 train, you'll enter upper class Queens. Before that point, you are dealing with the Mobb Deep's, Nasty Nas's, and Cormega's. At the end of the 7 are Mets' Shea Stadium and Shanghai-China I kid you the f.uck not. Hardly anything is in English, but all Mandarin and some Cantonese. And you want to see Twilight Zone s.hit?? I was walking through Flushing, which is at the end of the 7 train, and I got stares from Blacks like "What the f.uck are you doing out here? We here cuz we on Public Assistance. You look like you should be back in The Bronx or some s.hit" look when they look at me. It felt weird, but no other race did that s.hit to me while I was chilling in Flushing all day.

The 7 train is so "bourgeois" that if it weren't for NJ Governor Chris Christie, the 7-train would have extended right to W. NY, which is a town in northern New Jersey. Now do you think they'd entertain the thought of extending a train, like the ghetto 3-train that's in Brownsville around the southern bend of Manhattan to be touch New Jersey?!?!! New Jersey already has problems with E. Orange, Newark (Brick City), and Camden!! So alas the 7 train was the best pick to connect northern New Joisey people to Manhattan in order to smooth out public transportation in the Tri-State a tad more.

Northside Queens (which the 7, N, R, G run through) WOULD ALSO be a better bet for Tommy, but I don't think Tommy will listen to me. He's going to listen to the people whom have been swinging by showing up at his Sun-Tues-Fri 8-hour shows at his Harlem hotel room. They will put a bug in his ear to move to Bed-Stuy or Harlem. Mark my words. I had been blowing up his Facebook and Twitter with where he should go, but I don't think he read my tweets and/or FB posts.

In addendum, off of the F train in northside Jamaica is all South Asian/Indian-Pakistani-Sri Lankans. They are cool and ignore everybody but their own so Tommy would be safe there, but it's such a far commute to midtown Manhattan. Southside Jamaica which is east of the Van Wyck Expressway sucks....but in the part of Jamaica that's west of the Van Wyck Expwy and Richmond Hill, is all Dominican, Guayanese, and MIddle Eastern, and they won't f.uck with him there.
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@SilverEnergy,

The UK is part of the EU, but they won't accept their currency but they'd rather stay with the GBP. So there is some difference there.
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A British mom is leaving her children to make a new life with a U.S. prisoner she met online.

Jennifer Butler, 29, is flying 5,000 miles from the U.K. to marry Christopher Mosier, 23, leaving her three young kids who are all younger than 10.

She plans to set up home with him when he is released on parole in September. Her children will stay with their dad, from whom she split in 2010.

"Some people might think I'm bonkers for falling in love with a prisoner. And not everyone will agree with our relationship,' Butler said. "But Chris is a wonderful man. Sure, he made a few mistakes in the past, but everybody deserves a second chance."



AND YOU WONDER WHY I DON'T TAKE BLACK WOMEN SERIOUSLY....

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/b ... -1.1850877

My thoughts:

1. Looking at her children, the child's father is either white or Hispanic.

2. A black woman with children has the lowest dating prospects, so it's not a surprise she's dating a convict. If anything, it would be a surprise if she was able to pull a white stock broker.

3. Women fall for men who take the time to get to know them. If you put sex aside and just talk to a woman, write her love letters, and listen to her, and she has a basic attraction for you physically, they will fall for you. Guys in prison such as in this case are confined and are forced to be romantic and are forced to put in the time to get to know a woman in the long old fashioned way.

4. As far as the male, this woman has the ability to turn his life around. Many young guys who are wild, rudderless, and reckless meet good women who cause them to change their ways by going legit and getting jobs.
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Ive noticed with black women....

I remember one time I was out with a white friend of mine at one the downtown hotspots near the waterfront.....and as we were walking past this bar/restaurant, this black waitress who works there approached us....

now keep in mind, I was better dressed than the white boy....and the black bitch approached us and only talked to the white boy as if i weren't there ! As if I didn't exist....

She only address us in the singular: "Would you like to join us for happy hour?" as she only looks at him and not me! No eye contact from this slut at all.... And we declined as we were heading elsewhere.....

I could have had a high net worth, making 5 figures a month and still the black whore chose to address the white boy instead of BOTH OF US!

Thats why to steal a line from poster jamesbond: "To date a black American woman, I don't know whether I should laugh or vomit!"
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The wrote:Ive noticed with black women....

I remember one time I was out with a white friend of mine at one the downtown hotspots near the waterfront.....and as we were walking past this bar/restaurant, this black waitress who works there approached us....

now keep in mind, I was better dressed than the white boy....and the black bitch approached us and only talked to the white boy as if i weren't there ! As if I didn't exist....

She only address us in the singular: "Would you like to join us for happy hour?" as she only looks at him and not me! No eye contact from this slut at all.... And we declined as we were heading elsewhere.....

I could have had a high net worth, making 5 figures a month and still the black whore chose to address the white boy instead of BOTH OF US!

Thats why to steal a line from poster jamesbond: "To date a black American woman, I don't know whether I should laugh or vomit!"
Well, see, American black women seem to fall into 2 major camps, they're either gold diggers, or they're thug lovers.

The black woman in your case was a gold digger, and gold digging black women don't give 90% of black men the time of day unless they can google your name and you come up on the roster for a pro sports team, or you have a visibly high position at a major company. Until then, you're just a broke bum with no value whatsoever...

On the other hand, these same gold digging black women automatically take 90% of white men more seriously as they know the majority of white males have more money and power then black men.
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The wrote:
NorthAmericanguy wrote:
The wrote:Ive noticed with black women....

I remember one time I was out with a white friend of mine at one the downtown hotspots near the waterfront.....and as we were walking past this bar/restaurant, this black waitress who works there approached us....

now keep in mind, I was better dressed than the white boy....and the black bitch approached us and only talked to the white boy as if i weren't there ! As if I didn't exist....

She only address us in the singular: "Would you like to join us for happy hour?" as she only looks at him and not me! No eye contact from this slut at all.... And we declined as we were heading elsewhere.....

I could have had a high net worth, making 5 figures a month and still the black whore chose to address the white boy instead of BOTH OF US!



Thats why to steal a line from poster jamesbond: "To date a black American woman, I don't know whether I should laugh or vomit!"
Well, see, American black women seem to fall into 2 major camps, they're either gold diggers, or they're thug lovers.

The black woman in your case was a gold digger, and gold digging black women don't give 90% of black men the time of day unless they can google your name and you come up on the roster for a pro sports team, or you have a visibly high position at a major company. Until then, you're just a broke bum with no value whatsoever...

On the other hand, these same gold digging black women automatically take 90% of white men more seriously as they know the majority of white males have more money and power then black men.

AH.....I see....well I would rather not have black women know me anyway...Ill just opt to go overseas....
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Good description of the neighborhoods in NYC, E Irizarry! Hahaha...

So you got stared at in Flushing--by other Blacks and Latinos? Haha...yeah; some of them can be pretty unfriendly in Flushing, for some reason.
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A British mom is leaving her children to make a new life with a U.S. prisoner she met online.

Jennifer Butler, 29, is flying 5,000 miles from the U.K. to marry Christopher Mosier, 23, leaving her three young kids who are all younger than 10.

She plans to set up home with him when he is released on parole in September. Her children will stay with their dad, from whom she split in 2010.

"Some people might think I'm bonkers for falling in love with a prisoner. And not everyone will agree with our relationship,' Butler said. "But Chris is a wonderful man. Sure, he made a few mistakes in the past, but everybody deserves a second chance."



AND YOU WONDER WHY I DON'T TAKE BLACK WOMEN SERIOUSLY....

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Women are Evil and they get along with Hard Core Criminals because they are also Evil.

They in general make a good match :)
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djfourmoney wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:I saw the "phewwwwtiful bean footage".
This is even why fat country stateside White women are better stewards of good men than Black American women are.

Sidenote: I hope that if Tommy Sotomayor moves to the NYC, that he moves to the Bronx. I have a funny feeling he's going to move to either Brooklyn or Harlem, but I hope he doesn't make a bad choice. #IJS
Tommy doesn't like ratchet behavior, so I doubt it will be the Bronx and for sure not any messed up parts of Queens either. He has a car, so if he's going to spend six months or so in the Big Apple, he'll have to leave his car in LA (another location he mentioned moving too) or Atlanta and use public transport/taxis or he'll have to find parking, which will automatically put him in a upper middle class part of NYC; those neighborhoods do exist.

Since people like to regularly threaten his life, my guess is no Harlem, no Bronx, no Queens near the projects. Manhattan for even a hole in the wall is expensive and I doubt he wants to spend 50% of his internet income on rent in Manhattan.

I would agree that most White women are better stewards of children because the majority of them are not single mothers (34% vs 70%). Their children are usually the product of a failed marriage.
Tommy is a big time bitch though....If you go on his facebook page he bitches at everyone and threatens to block anyone who disagrees....kinda like how the 800 lb gorilla in the room with whom you expose who he really is calls people names and threatens to ban them if they disagree... Now i like some of Tommy's videos and all that bec his message is valid, but the messenger the same type of bitch raised by a single mother that he himself talks about....
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djfourmoney wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:I saw the "phewwwwtiful bean footage".
This is even why fat country stateside White women are better stewards of good men than Black American women are.

Sidenote: I hope that if Tommy Sotomayor moves to the NYC, that he moves to the Bronx. I have a funny feeling he's going to move to either Brooklyn or Harlem, but I hope he doesn't make a bad choice. #IJS
Tommy doesn't like ratchet behavior, so I doubt it will be the Bronx and for sure not any messed up parts of Queens either. He has a car, so if he's going to spend six months or so in the Big Apple, he'll have to leave his car in LA (another location he mentioned moving too) or Atlanta and use public transport/taxis or he'll have to find parking, which will automatically put him in a upper middle class part of NYC; those neighborhoods do exist.

Since people like to regularly threaten his life, my guess is no Harlem, no Bronx, no Queens near the projects. Manhattan for even a hole in the wall is expensive and I doubt he wants to spend 50% of his internet income on rent in Manhattan.

I would agree that most White women are better stewards of children because the majority of them are not single mothers (34% vs 70%). Their children are usually the product of a failed marriage.
Tommy is a big time bitch though....If you go on his facebook page he bitches at everyone and threatens to block anyone who disagrees....kinda like how the 800 lb gorilla in the room with whom you expose who he really is calls people names and threatens to ban them if they disagree... Now i like some of Tommy's videos and all that bec his message is valid, but the messenger the same type of bitch raised by a single mother that he himself talks about....
He is the first to admit he is a product of a single mother.

He blocks dumb comments. What example do you have of somebody disagreeing with them for a valid reason and he blocked them.

For my example, there are several times he has referred too mixed raced people to being half-breeds and this term is especially popular with dark skinned Blacks as they are most impacted by their preferential treatment by Anglo culture.

Now if you react negatively to that, he'll say something like "don't visit my Facebook page". But people tend to keep repeating they don't like what he said and will try coming at it from different angles but end up at the same point of being offended by something he said.

Who is he really exactly in your estimation?

He's has said some powerful things I tend to agree. The Black Community has not shown me much love or respect. They have called me White washed before and women have called me corny.

I agree that the Black Community is in bad need of a civil war or something. Because there is segment of the community who don't listen to reason, constantly came victim status and take out their aggression on other Blacks, not examples of the oppressive class.

You are welcome to not like what Tommy says, but there's no need to post his personal information, threaten his life, threaten his child, his girlfriend or anything else.

Like I said the people that have done this are apart of the community claiming victim status while simultaneously are amazingly silent about drug dealers, rape, incest, unemployment, teenage pregnancy and all the violence in many Black enclaves.

The only other seemingly controversial things he has said are about Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman and he understands why Whites have guns and clutch their purses.

I also agree that despite all the negative stuff and uphill climb most Blacks need to make to get to respectability; they should be model citizens otherwise and we know that's not the case.
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The wrote:
djfourmoney wrote:
E Irizarry R&B Singer wrote:I saw the "phewwwwtiful bean footage".
This is even why fat country stateside White women are better stewards of good men than Black American women are.

Sidenote: I hope that if Tommy Sotomayor moves to the NYC, that he moves to the Bronx. I have a funny feeling he's going to move to either Brooklyn or Harlem, but I hope he doesn't make a bad choice. #IJS
Tommy doesn't like ratchet behavior, so I doubt it will be the Bronx and for sure not any messed up parts of Queens either. He has a car, so if he's going to spend six months or so in the Big Apple, he'll have to leave his car in LA (another location he mentioned moving too) or Atlanta and use public transport/taxis or he'll have to find parking, which will automatically put him in a upper middle class part of NYC; those neighborhoods do exist.

Since people like to regularly threaten his life, my guess is no Harlem, no Bronx, no Queens near the projects. Manhattan for even a hole in the wall is expensive and I doubt he wants to spend 50% of his internet income on rent in Manhattan.

I would agree that most White women are better stewards of children because the majority of them are not single mothers (34% vs 70%). Their children are usually the product of a failed marriage.
Tommy is a big time bitch though....If you go on his facebook page he bitches at everyone and threatens to block anyone who disagrees....kinda like how the 800 lb gorilla in the room with whom you expose who he really is calls people names and threatens to ban them if they disagree... Now i like some of Tommy's videos and all that bec his message is valid, but the messenger the same type of bitch raised by a single mother that he himself talks about....
That is true. That's the only thing that's his downfall that I can say: his sensitivity he had gotten from being raised by a single mother alas his term "I have to stop the b.itch out of me every single morning when I look in the mirror".

Due to he not "stomping the b.itch out of him..." that morning, later that day, he ends up "calling the cab" for some people on the show that say things like "stop being emotional" and "up to a certain point". He loathes those aforementioned phrases. This is like 1-2% of his personality that I'm not too keen on.

However, when he calls the taxi on people for reppin' their hood regardless of the ratchet s.hit transpiring there, then I wholeheartedly agree with his anti-sub-human-pride of stance. I also like it when he calls a taxi on people whom are devoid of the skills it takes to answer a straightforward question. Answering any other way is a blatant lie, and I agree with him wholeheartedly on that. :-D

"The", you have to give him credit: at least he's out there trying to do right for Black people by buying free stuff as well as rendering positive message.

However, I agree with the other 98 percent of his awesome personality.
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