Michael Brown Shooting

[Ghost]

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[OutWest]

Even though Michael Brown was a thug, why would anyone support a pig? The police are, far and away, the largest criminal gang in the U.S. Even just by signing up to be a pig, he committed many acts against liberty and therefore deserves no sympathy.

Did he ever write a ticket? That is extortion.
Did he ever make an arrest? That is kidnapping.
Did he ever enforce laws against substances? That is anti-liberty.

Pigs are cowards, staying away from dangerous places where real criminals are while milking responsible people for revenue.

They are all criminals by making the choice to join that criminal organization.

The most optimistic eventuality I can envision is the ghetto thugs and pigs slaughtering each other en masse.

One thing to consider is that Mike Brown was a thug with a long rap sheet, over 6 foot tall, and almost 300 pounds. On the same day that he commits a strong arm robbery, he arrogantly walks in the middle of the street daring anyone to tell him to leave. When a cop comes, he punches him in the face and then charges a police officer while having a gun pointed at him . Would you like to tangle with this guy? If the cops stop doing it, then you will be the one. I am not a big fan of police militarization and would like to see some reforms. However, it is good to have thugs in power as long as they are on your side. Because some thug will be in power. Get rid of the police and you will feel what it is like to be some gang member's bitch.

Not where I live. The thug would get shot, dumped in a ditch and people would go on their merry way. Liberty is the responsibility of the people. The people got lazy and complacent a long time ago, gave up responsibility to the state, and now most are thoroughly helpless against even the smallest of problems.

Sometimes that can be delegated, but cops are way past that. Not everyone can carry for various reasons. When I am in the states I carry a Taurus Tracker and with 240gr hollow points...it would not take 6 rounds...good thing too, its a 5 shot revolver...lol

[Cornfed]

A lawsuit to unseal the dead teenaper's juvenile record claims he was a murder suspect.
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/08/27/l ... /20953546/

[Halwick]

@zboy1

We are talking about mainland (Communist) China, and not about 'all Chinese things'.

You claim, China is actually not that bad - OK, if this is true, try to run THIS forum in China and you will see how long it will exist on the internet.
You cannot deny that internet in China is heavily censored.

Yes, China is 'not so bad' - for a short visit bringing foreign currency with you - but why are you not LIVING there?
What is the reason to live the 'American dream' and not the 'Chinese dream'?

Try to complain about the Chinese government, exactly as these Asian Americans and African Americans are complaining about USA - if you are lucky you are in jail, if not you get a bullet in your brain. There is no freedom of press in China. There is no fair and open justice system existing in China.

About income, China makes merely USD 6560,- per year per person, while USA makes USD 53.670,- - this alone is reason for many mainland Chinese to leave and only a few want to go back after earning money overseas for retirement and vacation - but surely not for factory work, for working in the mines or for farming.

I think you need to study a little bit about law and economy in China and compare it with other countries.

While USA is willing to let Chinese people in as immigrants - millions of them - tell me how many US-citizens is China willing to accept in return, offering them citizenship, offering work permits and allows them to BUY their own land.

You also might take a look into the corruption index, which will rank USA as #19 and China as #80 !

Refute 'many things' what I say no problem, I want to hear them. Let me know 'which many things' but add some reference to it.

Well stated and very eloquently put, Mr. Yohan.

The folks here who hates the U.S. and freely able express their anti-U.S. or anti-West opinions, don't realize how fortunate they are to be able exercise freedom of thought and speech here. Try to do that in China, Thailand, Latin America or Russia and see what happens. And why hasn't Mr. Zboy1 and others who hates the U.S. renounce their U.S. citizenship and move permanently abroad? Not having enough money or means or commitments here are flimsy excuses as I've met many people from Far East Asia, Latin America and East Europe who sacrificed EVERYTHING to come to the U.S. Once you've made that permanent move, I'd like to see how far y'all get with your so-called Libertarian attitudes there.

[Moretorque]

@zboy1

We are talking about mainland (Communist) China, and not about 'all Chinese things'.

You claim, China is actually not that bad - OK, if this is true, try to run THIS forum in China and you will see how long it will exist on the internet.
You cannot deny that internet in China is heavily censored.

Yes, China is 'not so bad' - for a short visit bringing foreign currency with you - but why are you not LIVING there?
What is the reason to live the 'American dream' and not the 'Chinese dream'?

Try to complain about the Chinese government, exactly as these Asian Americans and African Americans are complaining about USA - if you are lucky you are in jail, if not you get a bullet in your brain. There is no freedom of press in China. There is no fair and open justice system existing in China.

About income, China makes merely USD 6560,- per year per person, while USA makes USD 53.670,- - this alone is reason for many mainland Chinese to leave and only a few want to go back after earning money overseas for retirement and vacation - but surely not for factory work, for working in the mines or for farming.

I think you need to study a little bit about law and economy in China and compare it with other countries.

While USA is willing to let Chinese people in as immigrants - millions of them - tell me how many US-citizens is China willing to accept in return, offering them citizenship, offering work permits and allows them to BUY their own land.

You also might take a look into the corruption index, which will rank USA as #19 and China as #80 !

Refute 'many things' what I say no problem, I want to hear them. Let me know 'which many things' but add some reference to it.

Well stated and very eloquently put, Mr. Yohan.

The folks here who hates the U.S. and freely able express their anti-U.S. or anti-West opinions, don't realize how fortunate they are to be able exercise freedom of thought and speech here. Try to do that in China, Thailand, Latin America or Russia and see what happens. And why hasn't Mr. Zboy1 and others who hates the U.S. renounce their U.S. citizenship and move permanently abroad? Not having enough money or means or commitments here are flimsy excuses as I've met many people from Far East Asia, Latin America and East Europe who sacrificed EVERYTHING to come to the U.S. Once you've made that permanent move, I'd like to see how far y'all get with your so-called Libertarian attitudes there.

Halwick the sad thing is this totalitarianism is coming everywhere, the money masters are setting up a one world dictatorship with these stringent views for the sheep to adhere to worldwide. It cracks me up when guy's like MR. Wu think they are going to run from this. It's consuming the world quick unless daa herd decide they have had enough.

[Yohan]

Well stated and very eloquently put, Mr. Yohan.

The folks here who hates the U.S. and freely able express their anti-U.S. or anti-West opinions, don't realize how fortunate they are to be able exercise freedom of thought and speech here. Try to do that in China, Thailand, Latin America or Russia and see what happens. And why hasn't Mr. Zboy1 and others who hates the U.S. renounce their U.S. citizenship and move permanently abroad? ...

I cannot comment about African Americans, but African Continent? Where to go?... Not known to me to be a paradise, except if you arrive with a lot of money (with your banking account overseas somewhere in Europe - France etc...)

About Asian Americans, it depends on their origin.

I do not know about problems regarding Japanese-Americans, Cambodian-Americans, Filipino-Americans, Thai-Americans and some others. They travel in both directions, for business, visit of relatives, vacation, retirement etc.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/why-i-ju ... 1409333549
In case of mainland-China, it is clear - China does not want Chinese Americans to resettle in China. They prefer the typical American cowboy-type, who comes, stays on business-visa and later on - leaves again, going home to USA.

In case of South Korea, it is a small country, very crowded, long working hours, and with Russia, North Korea and China next door, not a place you feel safe - even not with UN and US troops, which are partically paid (40 % or more) out of the South Korean defense budget.

Most South Koreans in Japan have no intention to move over to nearby South Korea permanently. They often try to get the Japanese citizenship, renouncing the South Korean nationality (no dual citizenship allowed!) and change their documents to Japanese names.

About the North Korean community in Japan, they send some money home to relatives, but are unwilling to relocate to North Korea despite facing legal problems in Japan. They also do not want to move over to South Korea, do not ask me why...

About Zboy1 and others, maybe they can explain, why they do not leave USA for good, and settle down as a resident (not necessarily changing citizenship) somewhere else.

For example, there are plenty of Koreans from South Korea, but also US-citizens of any race living in the Philippines. We have about half million Koreans and another half million Japanese of Korean origin in Japan.

[Yohan]

..... I'm Korean American and I like being in China more than the USA.

..... You seem intent on bashing all things Chinese, i.e. the government, Chinese people, Chinese culture, etc.

..... The country is actually not that bad (I prefer it to USA)

..... refute many of the things you said about China.

..... You almost sound like a Japanese nationalist, not a European. ...

Japanese nationalist from Europe?

Let me say, WWII ended 1945. Japan/Germany are not responsible for the Korean War and the divided North/South Korea. You better blame Communist China for this mess.

I can only ask myself, why you love the PRC so much? You are a Korean-American, right? From where are you in Korea originally? From the North? You sound like that.

Communist (mainland) China is NOT 'all things Chinese'. There are many Chinese living outside of the PRC - my Chinese friends visiting me frequently in Tokyo are from Malaysia (100 % Hakka Chinese). They never had anything to do with the PRC and do not know how to read Chinese.

Not all people in the PRC are ethnic Chinese - people from Tibet, Mongol, Western China have very little to do with 'Chinese culture'. I would not talk too much about such issues while in the PRC as a forreigner.

The PRC is politically a bully and a braggart. It is well known that the PRC is threatening almost all neighbours. Even North Korea is now moving its tanks away from South Korea to the Chinese border.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... order.html

The PRC is also threatening South Korea and is claiming sea territory from this tiny nation (so-called Socotra Rock area).

The PRC is not even co-operative regarding refugees from North Korea, despite South Korea and Japan will grant them entry immediately and unconditionally. It sends them back to the North, to labour camps or their death.
What do you think about this? Are North Korean people not Koreans? Are they not your countrymen?

The PRC is also threatening Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Philippines, recently even claiming islands of Indonesia. Not to talk about the delicate Taiwan status. The PRC is also threatening Japan with its military forces, but we are not defendless like the others around the PRC - this makes the difference.

Maybe you reconsider your slogan 'I like being in China more than the USA'.

Of course you can say that about yourself - as a tourist arriving in the PRC with USD in your wallet and holding a passport of the 'United States'.

I wonder however if you would say the same as a Chinese worker in a factory, farm or mine.

The 'Chinese Dream' is far away for 100s of millions of people who are citizens of the PRC. That's the reality.

[zboy1]

Yohan, as a European who left that continent to go live in Japan, I'm surprised how pro-USA you are. Are you sure you are a European, because most Euro's I've met and know, absolutely despise and ridicule America all the time?

As for your opinions on China, have you ever been to China, or are you just basing your opinions on personal opinions and news media? Because it's strange how HA posters like Everdred, Baoning, Xiongmao, TheAdventurer, Kai1275, Jamaican_In_China, Ghost and Magnum, don't find the country to be so bad. Strange...

[Yohan]

A lawsuit to unseal the dead teenaper's juvenile record claims he was a murder suspect.
http://www.aol.com/article/2014/08/27/l ... /20953546/

This 'good kid' is dead, and if his parents want to prove that he was really a good kid, they should agree to unseal the juvenile record of their boy - it should be an empty piece of paper.

If you need lawsuits to unseal such a record, something must be inside which might be important to know when the policeman is facing a trial.