Why are Americans fighting with ISIS?

[Taco]

Al Qaeda and ISIS are not organizations and do not actually exist. There propaganda(fake opposition) terms used for Western public consumption. There used to justify never ending wars. Its all part of the medias smoke and mirror show.

[OutWest]

They KNOW their government was arming "Syrian rebels" via Turkey. They KNOW that "Isis" arose in Syria from out of the Syrian rebels.

Thanks Alex.

Unh-hunh. Except my info came straight from good ol' Fox News, not Alex. (I got Fox here in Mexico till last week, cable is screwed up at the moment).

Remember how great American John McCain was pal-ing around with the Syrian "opposition"? If not here's a recent reminder of the Neocon-Islamist nexus:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mccain-makes ... -arm-isis/

His visits were covered on Fox at the time.

Oh and here's an American general that says the US armed ISIS. A good red-state source:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-genera ... ya/5399141

Is the general an Alex Jones fan too?

Who DO red-staters listen to, anyway? Is it just fingers-in-the-ears and "lah-lah-lah-lah-lah-lah"?

Early in the Syrian uprising there were a large group of rebels who were NOT islamists, who wanted an end to Assad and some kind of representative government with tolerance for various minorities in Syria. The US would not help them. If you listened to some of their leaders at the time, they were total prophets.

- The US is not helping us...

- Radical Islamists will hijack the resistance movement.

- If the US does get involved, they will probably help the wrong people.

There are still areas that these original fighters control and they are fighting ISIS.
A couple of years ago there were some reporters seized by an Islamist group.
Free Syria fighters raided the Islamist camp and rescued the reporters.
These fighters have allied themselves with the Kurds, and they fight radical Islamists
on a number of fronts. Of course, they will not be helped by the US unless things changed.

[Moretorque]

Al Qaeda and ISIS are not organizations and do not actually exist. There propaganda(fake opposition) terms used for Western public consumption. There used to justify never ending wars. Its all part of the medias smoke and mirror show.

Taco is such a stud, Eisenhower stated in his farewell address the military industrial complex was taking the country over but not only the country the entire world. These A holes have already built enough stuff to lay waste to the world multiple times and that thing wants to be fed so they just keep building it, this is why I say man is a bust.

Our rulers do not know how to do anything any differently as Ed Griffin stated and do not want to lose grip on their power they have amassed over the centuries so they have created this fairy tale illusion for us to swallow as they attempt to gobble the whole world up making all of it part of there portfolio in the name of the communal dictatorship in an effort of the long term goal of peace and harmony so they claim, all justified !!!!! and anybody who ?'s it is a terrorist!

The fake money system is how this fake reality is maintained and us idiots who do the bidding for it, the youth need to decide we need to go another direction like now, we have fuc ked them. Until then these people are just going to continue to build this world wide loony bin prison system until the whole thing goes up one way or another. If not by man it will be nature taking care of man and probably both simultaneously!

Punch in on UTUBE " ISIS is created by the USA and Israel all proof ".

[Wolfeye]

On this type of level of endeavors (wars & international actions): "fighting," with this country, means "facilitating." Whether that's funding, fueling, arming, training, giving a heads-up when whatever forces are on the way. Anybody else notice that? With pretty damn much everything, it's always the opposite of what they say. It's not even limited to labeling something in a misleading way, it can just be blatantly saying one thing & doing another. So many things are falsely represented, too. It's like a cult that lies religiously.

[MrPeabody]

I am really more interested in what one of these guys of ISIS is thinking personally. I don't care about the politics. Maybe Winston could do a podcast with an ISIS member to see if he is Happier Abroad. It would be more enlightening than all this shit that circulates around the Internet and guys repeat like parrots.

[Anatol]

I am really more interested in what one of these guys of ISIS is thinking personally. I don't care about the politics. Maybe Winston could do a podcast with an ISIS member to see if he is Happier Abroad. It would be more enlightening than all this shit that circulates around the Internet and guys repeat like parrots.

Hello,

One can make a guess about how the typical I.S.I.S. man feels. Everyone knows that the root cause of the fray between the world and I.S.I.S. is that I.S.I.S. refuses to grant women rights. Women's rights is an evil concept that is an attack upon masculinity. Most men are so demented around the world that they think this is something to be encouraged. I.S.I.S. men are very cognizant of this and know they are fighting on the side of truth.

[MrPeabody]

There is an interesting set of videos by VICE on Youtube. On one of the videos the ISIS fighters were having a contest to see who was the tallest and who was the shortest fighter. They had this really tall guy next to this midget and everyone was laughing and enjoying themselves. The lesson is that everyone is a brother and your appearance doesn't matter. Contrast that with America, where Americans are brought up in a competitive environment and conditioned to stab each other in the back. And you have tons of lonely men everywhere. In ISIS, it seems you are never alone. Maybe the reason they are there is because they are happy and we are the ones who are brainwashed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsCZzpm ... wB6gUsZSf7

[Moretorque]

Look, people need to understand the only reason this is an issue at all is because of all the oil in the region. People need to go back over a 100 years and look how the ruling body of the world carved that place up and dictated to them how they had to run their shop and gave them ink and paper for payment for their black gold and have forced this on them at gunpoint for over a 100 years.

That is where you start, William Engdahl's book " A Century of War " is very telling about how we got here and it ain't the War on Terror as spoon fed to us sheep!

[Wolfeye]

Mr.Peabody: Keep something in mind: What you're saying about the environment that Americans are brought up in is true, but their way has a lot of the same shit- it's just a "muslim member's club" thing along with it. I remember someone describing it as being "Me against my brothers, me & my brothers against my father, my family against the other families, our clan against the other clans, and all of us against the non-believers." This means a that there are no friends & they're working with enemies, if anyone at all.

There's a major aspect of this with the belief of "survival of the fittest." It casts the environment (both in terms of the general surroundings & socially) as a source of demise & not something life-supporting. It definitely casts other organisms, especially of one's own species, as enemies. Also, if someone believes that, then anyone else surviving means they're not the fittest- a paranoia problem or an ego-addiction problem, either way, it would cause a hostile reaction.

[MrPeabody]

There's a major aspect of this with the belief of "survival of the fittest." It casts the environment (both in terms of the general surroundings & socially) as a source of demise & not something life-supporting. It definiteyl casts other organisms, especially of one's own species, as enemies. Also, if someone believes that, then anyone else surviving means they're not the fittest- a paranoia problem or an ego-addiction problem, either way, it would cause a hostile reaction.

It seems that this part could apply to America, which always seems to need to create an enemy. Notice that the mass media always talks in terms of what the American politicians are going to do. The mass media is always focused on the politicians. Thats why people are so confused and say where the hell did this come from? It's because they aren't informed of anything meaningful. They aren't allowed to show ISIS as human. That would defeat the agenda.

[Anatol]

There's a major aspect of this with the belief of "survival of the fittest." It casts the environment (both in terms of the general surroundings & socially) as a source of demise & not something life-supporting. It definiteyl casts other organisms, especially of one's own species, as enemies. Also, if someone believes that, then anyone else surviving means they're not the fittest- a paranoia problem or an ego-addiction problem, either way, it would cause a hostile reaction.

It seems that this part could apply to America, which always seems to need to create an enemy. Notice that the mass media always talks in terms of what the American politicians are going to do. The mass media is always focused on the politicians. Thats why people are so confused and say where the hell did this come from? It's because they aren't informed of anything meaningful. They aren't allowed to show ISIS as human. That would defeat the agenda.

Hello,

If anyone thinks this fight isn't about evil women's rights nonsense, look at the comments in the videos about I.S.I.S. They are all about how bad women have it in the Middle-East, etc.

[Jester]

Early in the Syrian uprising there were a large group of rebels who were NOT islamists, who wanted an end to Assad and some kind of representative government with tolerance for various minorities in Syria. The US would not help them. If you listened to some of their leaders at the time, they were total prophets.

- The US is not helping us...

- Radical Islamists will hijack the resistance movement.

- If the US does get involved, they will probably help the wrong people.

There are still areas that these original fighters control and they are fighting ISIS.
A couple of years ago there were some reporters seized by an Islamist group.
Free Syria fighters raided the Islamist camp and rescued the reporters.
These fighters have allied themselves with the Kurds, and they fight radical Islamists
on a number of fronts. Of course, they will not be helped by the US unless things changed.

No reason to doubt what you say.

Yes, some honest non-radicals could easily oppose Assad.

I believe you.

Tell me, why does the USSA only manage to support the WORST?

Could it be that all those six figure salaries go to stupid people?

Or...

[Jester]

I am really more interested in what one of these guys of ISIS is thinking personally. I don't care about the politics. Maybe Winston could do a podcast with an ISIS member to see if he is Happier Abroad. It would be more enlightening than all this shit that circulates around the Internet and guys repeat like parrots.

Fair enough.

Please post an ISIS video.

I mean it.

[Jester]

There is an interesting set of videos by VICE on Youtube. On one of the videos the ISIS fighters were having a contest to see who was the tallest and who was the shortest fighter. They had this really tall guy next to this midget and everyone was laughing and enjoying themselves. The lesson is that everyone is a brother and your appearance doesn't matter. Contrast that with America, where Americans are brought up in a competitive environment and conditioned to stab each other in the back. And you have tons of lonely men everywhere. In ISIS, it seems you are never alone. Maybe the reason they are there is because they are happy and we are the ones who are brainwashed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsCZzpm ... wB6gUsZSf7

Stopped watching at 0:19.

Saw a mobile rocket launcher and a tank with ISIS flags.

Ragheads don't build that stuff in garages.... DO they?!

BTW I have met a man who refurbished artillery shells for the Phalange in Lebanon, I am not ignorant of homespun weapons. I just never met anyone who built a tank or a mobile rocket launcher (of this scale) in a garage.

Not buying it.

ISIS is a Hollywood-conceived, USSA-directed, Turkish-armed, Saudi/Qatari funded, Zionist asset.

Watch the first 19 seconds and tell me what YOU think.

[MrPeabody]

There is an interesting set of videos by VICE on Youtube. On one of the videos the ISIS fighters were having a contest to see who was the tallest and who was the shortest fighter. They had this really tall guy next to this midget and everyone was laughing and enjoying themselves. The lesson is that everyone is a brother and your appearance doesn't matter. Contrast that with America, where Americans are brought up in a competitive environment and conditioned to stab each other in the back. And you have tons of lonely men everywhere. In ISIS, it seems you are never alone. Maybe the reason they are there is because they are happy and we are the ones who are brainwashed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsCZzpm ... wB6gUsZSf7

Stopped watching at 0:19.

Saw a mobile rocket launcher and a tank with ISIS flags.

Ragheads don't build that stuff in garages.... DO they?!

BTW I have met a man who refurbished artillery shells for the Phalange in Lebanon, I am not ignorant of homespun weapons. I just never met anyone who built a tank or a mobile rocket launcher (of this scale) in a garage.

Not buying it.

ISIS is a Hollywood-conceived, USSA-directed, Turkish-armed, Saudi/Qatari funded, Zionist asset.

Watch the first 19 seconds and tell me what YOU think.

They have billions of dollars. Why would they build something in a garage when they can buy it? Or take it from Libya? These are just opinions and not facts. Alex covers over his lack of facts with lots of hollering. And you miss the whole point of why they are doing it. These theories are meant to block thought.