Paradox: How can unapproachable AW all be taken?

[Devil Dog]

Here is an interesting paradox for you all to figure out. Sorry if I'm overthinking things again, but hey, that's the curse of being a philosopher. lol

Anyway, here it is:

How can it be that nearly every AW that's decent looking and not ugly is taken (or claims to be), yet at the same time, they are unapproachable and unfriendly to men? I mean, if men can't approach them or hit on them or seduce them, or even talk to them in most cases, how do they all get "taken" as they claim?

Who are the guys that have "taken" them and how did they get them? How are these guys any different or better than us? What do they do that's different? How do their boyfriends/husbands get them if they aren't approachable?

See what I mean? It's sort of a paradox, on the surface at least.

Here is my explanation for the paradox:

1. As OTB explained in his other threads, our problem isn't our looks, since if you look around you, you will see regular average Joes with AW. Our problem is that we are NONCONFORMIST, and thus we don't fit into mainstream cliques in America.

We also think too much, which alienates us from the mainstream, because society is set up for people who follow a routine and do what they are supposed to without thinking too much. It's not set up for people who think too much. Thus, the dumber you are, the easier it will be to get along with others. So we don't get along with many people...

This contains all the elements of the perfect HA post:
1. Acknowledgement of failure.
2. Key to greater success is right there, but ignored.
3. Rationalization for failure included.
4. That rationalization (nonconformist free thinker) sets up the HA member as superior to those who succeed.

What is the key to success? Look at the bolded word. Winston, your problem in this area is that you can't handle the rejection which goes hand in hand with your appetite for women. You seem to think that the world owes you an endless stream of strange and attractive poon. It doesn't work that way.

[matthewcoury]

Women are not responsive to men that they are not attracted to. This is if you are introducing yourself to them cold.

It also gets tiring to politely avoid guys that come on to you, unless you already know them from work, school, hobby activities. Even as an average woman, there are men that try to pick me up several times a day when I am happy being celibate and single..and that is a personal choice, not something that has to do with the man approaching me. Women open up more when they have at least seen you around the block a few times and are familiar with you in some way. That goes for the decent women that I know. Remember that some of us are just protecting ourself from being used since a lot of guys will pretend to be a good guy and fake comittment for sex. Then, when you let your guard down, you find out that the guy isn't what he presented himself to be.

It is true that Americans in general are very cliquey..and most women that I know find their partners in their group. Outsiders are generally overlooked.

I honestly would like to know how most men on here approach women? Do you go for the 9/10 chicks and expect to score everytime? Do you see them as a commodity or as a human being with their own likes/predilections/preferences?

duhhh....most of us arent trying to "score" anything...thats very demeaning......youre the typical american woman who tries to vilify any attempt by a man to attract a woman......the majority of us are very chivalrous as most american men are at heart and just want a good girlfriend or wife.......you have that same BS mentality that says "i dont need a man to be happy" which is not natural......you and the rest of the women in america have succeeded in causing us to go elsewhere for wives where we will be very happy.....i for one will very likely soon be a millionaire living in bosnia with a gorgeous wife.....and not you or any other american woman is going to stop me....peace out fool

[matthewcoury]

I suppose anything is possible. But I would not agree with your simple formula above. I know a lot of guys who go out and do social things like you listed, but don't get dates because every single AW friendzones them or tells them that they aren't their type. Some guys can do all the right things but every AW rejects them or friendzones them. We all know guys that are like that.

You are using cliched advice. If you could get dates by going to salsa dances, joining church, going to Meetup.com groups, joining common interest groups, etc. then every guy would do that. But it's not that easy. I tried it for years but didn't get anywhere. I explained this long ago. It was a waste of time. The barriers were still there.

Just because you take a class with a lot of girls isn't going to do anything. The girls aren't going to see you outside of the class and will blow you off with "I have a boyfriend" if you ask them out. If they are all taken, what's the point?

Also, if you're Asian and not very tall and don't look hot by US standards, you are out of luck with AW and will have to resort to finding FOB Asian girls.

I hate it the most when AW tells guys that no AW wants that they have to fix their confidence and heal their wounded soul before they can starting dating AW. That's 1000 percent bullshit, illogical, useless and a false shaming tactic. Such a total f***ing lie. I swear.

you are 100 percent right winston.....iam an all american badboy with a felony record....been in fights with police almost went to prison for 10 yrs......and ill tell you something......this stuff is 100percent bull.....i cant get an american woman to save my life but i can and have gotten girlfriends who were foreign.....and very attractive...so explain that one to me people??? and winston knows.....he can get just about any kind of girl he wants outside america.....so why should he or any of us take your advice??? not like we havent heard and tried it a million times