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Devil Dog wrote: Exactly. I am not a chess player but I am a poker player. I became an excellent poker player by tracking my results on paper, evaluating my play, identifying "holes" in my game, and fixing those holes. That is how one becomes a good poker player. The person who complains about bad luck is the guy who will never be a good player.

Winston is the guy who can't improve his game. He wants to bitch about bad luck and blame everyone except himself. Improve your game Winston. Otherwise you will continue to lose.
First of all, people do not fit into formulas. Games don't work on people unless they are easily manipulable and gullible and stupid.

Second, bad luck and Murphy's Law are very real. I gave many historical and present day examples in other threads. Denying them doesn't change that fact. There are forces that cause bad luck or give you the opposite of what you want.

Why do you think some people complain about Murphy's Law and others don't? Everything has a reason. Obviously it's because some people experience Murphy's Law to a greater degree than others.

You seem to be under the typical American delusion that everything is controllable and in your hands. It is not. That is an American delusion. Your destiny is not fully in your hands. This is easily provable. At least it is for most people.
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Moretorque wrote: Yaa but that's the problem for Winston . He has to make them fall in love with his mind because when he drops his trousers the poor gals are horrified and shutter with fear and say there is no way you are going to ram me with that tree.
Who said I have a tree size? lol. Actually there was this Russian biologist once, I forget his name, but he wrote a paper proposing a theory that women reject men due to their penis sizes, which they know instinctually. A guy with a small dick gives off a different vibe than a guy with a big dick, he claimed, which women can sense instinctually without looking or touching it. Guys with small dicks will always be rejected sexually, and can only get sex by being good providers. But guys with bigger dicks will get lots of casual sex. Any of you heard of this theory? Is it true?
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None of you guys are addressing what I did wrong with that DateinAsia girl. Her name is Summer by the way, so let's refer to her as that from here on.

The thing is, I went WITH THE FLOW. And the flow was going my way, since she was really into me and putting out a lot of positive signs and body language! So theoretically, all I had to do was go WITH the flow, and I should have gotten to home base! After all, when things are going well, all you have to do is go with the flow. If you have a streak in sports or gambling, for example, the logical thing is to continue on until the streak runs out. So what I did was VERY LOGICAL. It's not like everything was going great, and then I said or did something stupid, like Jack Nicolson's character did with Helen Hunt in the movie "As Good As It Gets".

So the point is, I was NOT the one who disrupted the flow that was going great. SHE was the one who disrupted the flow, NOT ME. So theoretically I didn't do anything wrong, nor did I "f**k up" or botch it, like some of you claim. So you gotta understand that before you criticize me.

That being said, why did she disrupt the flow when things were going great? That is the key question, and it isn't being addressed. Did her subconscious mind get in the way? Did Murphy's Law? What caused the shirt and turn around? None of you have addressed that crucial question.
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Winston I think it's your faith. I mean look at your track record. You went to Russia and I know you said many times you did OK there but if you were you wouldn't have left and actually would of slept with lots of Russian girls...but that didn't happen. Then you went to the Philippines met a bar girl and got her pregnant but not too responsible as a father which said something about your nature which is that your a selfish man.

Now your in China....and guess what ....it going to happen again just like in Russia and in the Philippines..your not going to find what you WANT. Why? Because I hate to break it to you..you can be delusional sometimes in your own value. Its going to sound harsh.... but your like Will-N -Dodd or these other sexpats..your looking for a free ride and also that perfect 10 . It;s like you want to be with as many girls and also find that hot girl that will be great for you. Your hopping from country to country thinking it must be the location...over time your going to realize that it;s not always about location...
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chanta76 wrote:Winston I think it's your faith. I mean look at your track record. You went to Russia and I know you said many times you did OK there but if you were you wouldn't have left and actually would of slept with lots of Russian girls...but that didn't happen. Then you went to the Philippines met a bar girl and got her pregnant but not too responsible as a father which said something about your nature which is that your a selfish man.

Now your in China....and guess what ....it going to happen again just like in Russia and in the Philippines..your not going to find what you WANT. Why? Because I hate to break it to you..you can be delusional sometimes in your own value. Its going to sound harsh.... but your like Will-N -Dodd or these other sexpats..your looking for a free ride and also that perfect 10 . It;s like you want to be with as many girls and also find that hot girl that will be great for you. Your hopping from country to country thinking it must be the location...over time your going to realize that it;s not always about location...
What do you mean my faith? Man your post is so pessimistic and negative and victim-blaming and without any logical arguments. It looks like you just like to subjectively bash the victim for no reason other than hate. You say that I'm the problem yet you offer no specifics and no logical arguments.

You also misportray my track record. I slept with lots of girls in the Philippines and did a lot better than most guys. I did not impregnate a bar girl. That's already been debunked and tossed aside. I already gave out a warning about calling Dianne a bar girl, and that anyone who does so again will receive a temporary ban. Didn't you see it? The fact that you continue to spread a lie that we all agree is false, doesn't speak well of you. You didn't even address my questions. So your post is useless and low quality.

I am not looking for a perfect 10 or a free ride. You are making straw mans. I am also not a sexpat. I go on romantic dates and am a romantic person. I even write poems for the girls I date. You don't know me and aren't qualified to comment about me.

Next time, post something of value or else don't post at all. Your post was very low quality and trashy and contained false statements too. Thus revealing a subjective bias against me, and is therefore not credible.
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Winston,

I'm not trying to flame you. Sorry if I got Dianne mixed up. I remember reading one of your many post that she did work in the bar.

I'm not trying to be victim blaming or bashing you but I'm just going by your track record. You mentioned that you slept with many Philippines girls but from reading your own post many of them are the lower class type and judging from the pictures you posted of the girls some of them look to be bar girls. Again there is nothing wrong with that if that is what you are looking for but since you left the Philippines I guess it's not. Again I'm not trying to flame you I'm just stating my opinion. You also say your not sexpat but if you slept with many Philippines girls as you say what does that make you ?

OK let me explain what I mean by your faith. I mean you first started in Russia , then the Philippines and now thinking of China (correct me if I'm wrong) . I mean I wouldn't be surprise if China doesn't work out for you. What I mean by faith is that maybe if there is God this is what God dealt you. You mentioned Bill Bixby,who was probably a good guy and good actor but lousy stuff happened to him in his life. I seen guys who are totally asshole but get hot girls. I seen guys in what ever they do and they become successful at it.

What I'm going to say may upset you and you might want to ban me. This is your site so it's your prerogative if you want to. I never met you so maybe the real you vs stuff I read about you is different but I'm going by what I read.

Your overweight and not handsome. You don't have high income and your not white (let's be honest being a white guy in Asia in some cases has some advantage compared to Asian American guys). Your not tall and I think you make allot of excuses for yourself. You are looking for that hot girl that is close to perfection for you. It's kind of like with Will-N-N Dodd who slept with lots of low qaulity Filipinas and reached a plateau and is frustrated.

You asked why that girl who was giving you good signs but all of sudden she got cold. It's possible you read it wrong or it's possible this is your faith. If you want to improve your situation...ask yourself this. Look at yourself hard in front of the mirror and be honest. Would a hot girl find you attractive initially? and if not..what can you do to improve your situation to get that hot girl.
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Look at yourself hard in front of the mirror and be honest. Would a hot girl find you attractive initially?

This is gold.

You cant compare Will and Winston, Will would be considered 7+ whereas Winston is 1.5 out of 10.


Sorrie Winston but it is what it is, you just dont have anything to offer to girls. You are fat, have bad skin, asian, short, old, look unhealthy..your genes suck big time and I have no idea why some posters cant be honest and say it like that instead they always look for smthing else to blame, location, women, culture, imigrants etc Its all bs, you know it. You are just to ugly, plain and simple
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Winston, I think some people on the forum may consider Dianne a former bargirl cus she worked in Juliana's entertaining men there. I think to the eyes of most, Juliana's is one type of Angeles City bar.

Cus a bar in Angeles City is generally considered a place where men pay for more than just beer. That can include KTV, lounges, brothels, and go gos where guys pay at least for girls to sit and chat with them (via lady drinks, an hourly fee for company of women) and/or leave the establishment with them for bar hopping or perhaps a visit to a hotel.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
Rock wrote:Winston, I think some people on the forum may consider Dianne a former bargirl cus she worked in Juliana's entertaining men there. I think to the eyes of most, Juliana's is one type of Angeles City bar.

Cus a bar in Angeles City is generally considered a place where men pay for more than just beer. That can include KTV, lounges, brothels, and go gos where guys pay at least for girls to sit and chat with them (via lady drinks, an hourly fee for company of women) and/or leave the establishment with them for bar hopping or perhaps a visit to a hotel.
Is this the place you are talking about? http://www.julianaktv.com/gallery/

Because if it is, well, let's just say it's not a place I would want my daughter working in the future lol. Not saying these girls are strippers but a lot of the "entertaining" is done in skimpy clothing that a regular waitress wouldn't typically wear. It looks like a Filipino hooters to me, and the fact that businessmen sometimes dine there doesn't magically make it classy. :lol:
It probably is but Winston can answer for sure.

That's a not a Hooters. Hooters is a legitimate restaurant, nothing like Julianas evident just from the link you posted and the images inside.

There are a couple (well now only one) Hooters restaurants in Metro Manila. One used to be near where I live and I even met up with Steve Neese there once. But it seems they did not renew the franchise agreement so it's evolved into pretty much the same concept with a different brand. But the other one, in MOA, is still intact last I checked.
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what sort of a bar is this Julianas place?

Can you get more than a drink like strip dane,bj,sex?

Somebody plz confirm
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Banano wrote:what sort of a bar is this Julianas place?

Can you get more than a drink like strip dane,bj,sex?

Somebody plz confirm
I think it's one of those Korean style places with mostly Asian customers. They tend to sit there and order a bunch of drinks with the hostesses sitting by their side. There's probably not a barfine system in place but perhaps some of the waitresses are willing to make private arrangements outside with those clients they feel familiar and comfortable enough with. I mean you see Koreans walking around with local girls a lot who look like they've been procured at such a place.

Winston knows better I'm sure so if he bothers to read this thread and respond, we'll get a more credible answer.
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chanta76 wrote:Winston,

I'm not trying to flame you. Sorry if I got Dianne mixed up. I remember reading one of your many post that she did work in the bar.

I'm not trying to be victim blaming or bashing you but I'm just going by your track record. You mentioned that you slept with many Philippines girls but from reading your own post many of them are the lower class type and judging from the pictures you posted of the girls some of them look to be bar girls. Again there is nothing wrong with that if that is what you are looking for but since you left the Philippines I guess it's not. Again I'm not trying to flame you I'm just stating my opinion. You also say your not sexpat but if you slept with many Philippines girls as you say what does that make you ?

OK let me explain what I mean by your faith. I mean you first started in Russia , then the Philippines and now thinking of China (correct me if I'm wrong) . I mean I wouldn't be surprise if China doesn't work out for you. What I mean by faith is that maybe if there is God this is what God dealt you. You mentioned Bill Bixby,who was probably a good guy and good actor but lousy stuff happened to him in his life. I seen guys who are totally asshole but get hot girls. I seen guys in what ever they do and they become successful at it.

What I'm going to say may upset you and you might want to ban me. This is your site so it's your prerogative if you want to. I never met you so maybe the real you vs stuff I read about you is different but I'm going by what I read.

Your overweight and not handsome. You don't have high income and your not white (let's be honest being a white guy in Asia in some cases has some advantage compared to Asian American guys). Your not tall and I think you make allot of excuses for yourself. You are looking for that hot girl that is close to perfection for you. It's kind of like with Will-N-N Dodd who slept with lots of low qaulity Filipinas and reached a plateau and is frustrated.

You asked why that girl who was giving you good signs but all of sudden she got cold. It's possible you read it wrong or it's possible this is your faith. If you want to improve your situation...ask yourself this. Look at yourself hard in front of the mirror and be honest. Would a hot girl find you attractive initially? and if not..what can you do to improve your situation to get that hot girl.
Well you received a warning on your account for calling Dianne a bar girl. Luc Furr was banned for that and refusing to apologize. Hope that doesn't happen to you. That matter was settled long ago. Only people who are trying to slam me attempt to bring that up unfairly.

I mean I'm not a sexpat in that I just want sex. I take the girls out on romantic dates and whisper sweet secrets in their ear. I talk to the girls too. I am like a polyamorous Casanova type, yeah, but not a sexpat. It depends on how you want to define sexpat. But the way you use it makes it sound like it refers to a typical whoremonger.

You also made it sound like I failed in the Philippines. I did not. I got lots of sex and romance. If I failed, I would have said so. You are attempt to TWIST the truth and I don't like that. It's dishonest and typical of internet haters, bashers and losers.

Also I dated girls in the Philippines that are BETTER LOOKING than what most expats there get. That's for sure. Look at the kind of girls that white western expat guys get in AC and you'll see what I mean.

You used the wrong word then when you said "faith". That word is usually used in reference to someone's religion. If you mean curse or bad luck or bad karma, then use those words instead. You need to use words more accurately.

The definition of failed or successful is very subjective. I may have sexual fantasies that do not come true. But I may have a good time here as a tourist or meet some great girls. And I may get healthier and skinnier in the process. Does that mean I was a failure overall? No. That's generalizing. The truth is, in every trip, I am successful and gained in some areas, but failed in other areas. You can't say I failed in total just because my sexual fantasies didn't come true. That's what someone trying to slam me would say. Not someone objective or neutral.

What gives you any credibility anyway? You do not demonstrate wisdom, maturity, or deep insight. You are just a guy, an asshole with an opinion. I don't see any credibility or value in a random internet basher's opinion, especially if he is unfair or overly harsh and negative.

You don't understand women. Women believe that looks may catch their attention, but a man's personality is what makes her fall in love.

I am not as bad looking as you claim. My younger photos were handsome. I do have naturally handsome features. But I'm not that photogenic. Ask Rock. I am not 1.5 like Banano exaggerates. That's baloney and very biased.

Besides, in China I am considered average height. And a guy's looks don't matter that much. I see lots of average looking guys with hot girls here. They don't have more money than me. My salary is considered above average here. You can ask Ethan or Rock about that. So you aren't making sense and you aren't addressing these issues.

PS - You owe Dianne an apology. Please be a man and do what's right and apologize for calling her a bar girl.
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Banano wrote:Look at yourself hard in front of the mirror and be honest. Would a hot girl find you attractive initially?

This is gold.

You cant compare Will and Winston, Will would be considered 7+ whereas Winston is 1.5 out of 10.


Sorrie Winston but it is what it is, you just dont have anything to offer to girls. You are fat, have bad skin, asian, short, old, look unhealthy..your genes suck big time and I have no idea why some posters cant be honest and say it like that instead they always look for smthing else to blame, location, women, culture, imigrants etc Its all bs, you know it. You are just to ugly, plain and simple
Not true. I am not a 1.5. That's is way too harsh. Ask anyone who's met me. I am thinner in 3D than in 2D pics. I have a cute face with an innocent look. I do have a lot to offer. I am charming, charismatic, deep, intelligent, very good in English and can teach people English, have an above average salary in China, am funny, treat women good, am romantic, can write poetry whereas most guys can't, etc. Plus I have a lot of family assets: three houses, all bought and paid for with no mortgage. So I am an inheritor of some big assets. Most guys do not have three houses in their name, all bought and paid for with no mortgage. Therefore, I am considered a good catch for single women here, theoretically speaking.

So again, you are WRONG as usual. BUSTED!

For your mean spiritedness toward me and unfair portrayal of me, you will receive a warning on your account.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:Winston, women may very well like you. But do they like you romantically, sexually, or just as a friend? You may have the type of vibe a "gay best friend" would have. My wife has several such friends, several of them confirmed gays, others simply suspected. They are the type of guy that are sexually harmless, not a threat to me. So the type of men a husband allows his wife to befriend and hang out with, without having to fear competition.

I'm not calling you gay here, mind you! - but I am suggesting that maybe this is the vibe you are giving off. That you are not the tallest, strongest and handsomest of men and not very masculine. You are not one of those men who ooze sex appeal. As a result it's not hard for you to get contact with girls, talk to them, laugh with them and befriend them. You probably are more then a bit charismatic and likable, and a solid conversationalist. But from being liked (platonic) and being wanted (sexually) is quite a big step. And that step is probably what you are having difficulties with.

You had some sexual issues with Dianne, didn't you? I wonder if similar issues have come up with other girls you've been with\had relationships with. That may be a part of the reason. Some things, a woman can tell instinctively.
Yes that seems what it is. Even in Russia, some women told me that I lacked sexuality, in that I do not trigger sexual desire in women. Why is that? Is it due to my lack of testosterone? Me being not animalistic enough? Maybe I'm too evolved, like a grey alien, and so my animalistic traits have been transcended? lol

What can I do about this though? Work out and build more muscles? Act more cocky and insensitive? Brag more and act more arrogant? Or what?

However, as Rock said, most Chinese guys in China and Taiwan are not very masculine, but feminine and gay-like. Yet they get girls. How do you explain that? Also, Filipinas do not treat me as an asexual. Remember that Asian women and White women are different. White women need more masculinity than Asian women do.

Women have also complained that I seem like a "wayward boy" and not mature. What does that mean exactly? What does mature mean? Does it mean a man who is very serious, narrow minded and simple? No man is really mature. Maturity is just how you act in public. Maybe it means I'm not firm like a rock of gibraltar. But most men aren't right?
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Rock wrote:Winston, I think some people on the forum may consider Dianne a former bargirl cus she worked in Juliana's entertaining men there. I think to the eyes of most, Juliana's is one type of Angeles City bar.

Cus a bar in Angeles City is generally considered a place where men pay for more than just beer. That can include KTV, lounges, brothels, and go gos where guys pay at least for girls to sit and chat with them (via lady drinks, an hourly fee for company of women) and/or leave the establishment with them for bar hopping or perhaps a visit to a hotel.
No, they are obviously doing it to try to make me look bad. It's obvious. They all know this was debunked 1000000000000 times and settled LONG LONG ago. Yet they still bring it up because they love to slam me, like a pack of hungry wolves who smell blood and want to take advantage of any weakness in the top dog. It's just psychology of competitive species. That should be obvious to you. These guys aren't behaving logically or rationally or objectively. That should be obvious to you.

Now let's put things in perspective for the 1000000000000000000th fricking time. LISTEN UP EVERYONE! I'M NOT GONNA f***ing REPEAT THIS SHIT AGAIN! YOU HEAR ME??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First of all, whether Juliana's was a bar is debateabale. It is officially an entertainment lounge with shows on a theater stage. But it is certainly not a bar where western men go to barfine girls like a go go bar, as Rock said. Sure some girls may go with customers if they like them, but it is not the official policy of Juliana's to do barfines.

Second, Dianne was allegedly at Juliana's for only one or two weeks. She did not like working there and did not like customers touching her and she does not know how to flirt or act fake. So she wasn't suited for that kind of work.

Now, we've all had short term jobs that didn't work out. I sure have. I worked in a factory for a temp agency but I could not handle the speed and monotony, so I quit after a while. I also worked for one day as a supermarket stocker, but I was too slow so the manager requested a replacement to my temp agency. Now does that mean that I should be referred to as a "factory worker" for life? Or as a "supermarket stocker" for life just because I did that job for one day and failed at it?

No! Of course not. Duh. Trying out a job that doesn't suit you doesn't mean you've earned the title of that job for life. Duh. We all know that right? So quit lying and calling Dianne a bar girl or KTV girl. That's like calling me a factory worker or supermarket worker just cause I tried it out for a while.

Therefore, as you can see, it's unfair and inaccurate to try to call Dianne a "bar girl", even if Juliana's is a bar, for life, just because she tried it out for a short while and quit. See what I mean? You see how FRICKING STUPID AND MORONIC people are here?!

See what I mean Rock? These guys are dishonest and just trying to find ways to slam me and Dianne and make us look bad, even though they are doing it DISHONESTLY and UNFAIRLY and INACCURATELY. Now do you see the motivations of these assholes and pricks and losers?

Warning to everyone: I've addressed all this in the past. It's nothing new. Quit acting like it is. Or else I'm going to start issuing bans and warnings. Luc Furr was already banned for this. Hope that doesn't happen to any more of you.
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