70 Years ago today Hitler committed suicide

[jamesbond]

Adolph Hitler committed suicide 70 years ago today, April 30, 1945 in his bunker in Berlin, he was 56 years old. The first video gives a dramatization of Hitler's last moments before he eventually kills himself. The second video shows a dramatization of Hitler committing suicide and his body being burned.

[Johnny1975]

Or so they say.

[Yohan]

I'm not too keen on conspiracy theories but I do find it odd there is zero concrete evidence for Hitler's death, nor does anybody seem to have or know the location of his actual remains...

Many soldiers of the loser side (German, Austrian) including my late father doubted that Hitler committed suicide. Hitler had still the possibility to escape to somewhere, not that much time, but a few days...

However everybody was eager to get over it, not only the losers, but also the winners. The idea, Hitler as a martyr, was not welcome and everybody tried to remove quickly any reference to him.

We will never know the truth, we can only speculate. Almost nobody who has seen Hitler personally is still alive. Hitler would be now 126 years old, for sure he is dead now. Where and how he died, with or without Eva Braun, nobody knows.

Many believe the story about his suicide together with Eva and that their bodies were cremated near the bunker.

Correct, it is somehow strange as you said, that there is zero evidence for Hitler's death - but there is also zero evidence that he escaped to somewhere else. Jewish organizations for example were extensively hunting Eichmann, Mengele and others after WWII and they also agreed to the question that there is zero evidence that Hitler escaped and is still alive somewhere.

[Winston]

Jamesbond,
Why do you keep starting threads about Hitler? You've started three of them now. You seem to be fascinated with anyone controversial. lol. Did you mark this important anniversary on your calendar? lol. Geez. Get a life. lol

We don't know for sure if Hitler committed suicide. There is no physical evidence of that. The basis for that comes from the testimony of a dentist who said that the remains of Hitler's teeth matched what she saw from his X-Rays by MEMORY ALONE. She didn't have the actual X-Rays to prove it. She just said that they matched what she remembered. It also comes from the eyewitness testimony of those in the bunker during Hitler's last days. Maybe they were trying to cover up the secret about his escape? Who knows. But you'd think that at least one of them would have told the truth after all these years.

MarcosZeitola is right. The History Channel did an episode where forensic scientists went to Russia to examine skull fragments said to be Hitler's. They brought back a few pieces of it to the USA where it was tested for DNA and found to be a woman's skull.

Plus it's odd that the final remains of Hitler and Eva Braun were thrown into some backyard and never found again. That's very suspicious. Why would the Soviets do that with the remains of the most infamous man of the 20th Century? You'd think they would place them in a museum somewhere.

However, it's hard to imagine Hitler retiring somewhere though, like Argentina. He was not the kind of man who could retire into a peaceful quiet life. He was too extreme and intense for that. He would have had nothing to live for. Like Alexander the Great, he could not retire and live a quiet secluded life into old age. He was the kind of man who had to go out in a blaze of glory.

Moreover, a Hitler in hiding would have been whistleblown by those around him. That kind of secret is too hard for people to keep quiet about. Someone would have exposed him to the public.

Also, committing suicide would have been consistent with Hitler's previous behavior and beliefs. Remember in the 1920's, when his attempted coup in Germany failed, and he was jailed, he tried to commit suicide too, but someone stopped him. So if a person attempted suicide before, he would likely do it again. In addition, when his generals and officers failed, Hitler expected them to commit suicide and sometimes ordered them to. He seemed to believe that suicide was a proper penalty for failure. So why wouldn't he commit suicide himself since he believed it was the honorable way out for failing? Wouldn't he practice what he preached?

So there is good reason to believe that he did commit suicide too, in spite of the lack of physical evidence.

Anyhow, I don't know what to make of it. But even if Hitler survived, he had some kind of disease like Parkinson's, if I remember, so he wouldn't have lived long anyway.

[jamesbond]

Jamesbond,
Why do you keep starting threads about Hitler? You've started three of them now. You seem to be fascinated with anyone controversial. lol. Did you mark this important anniversary on your calendar? lol.

Winston, this is the 70th anniversary or Hitler's death which is pretty significant. You even admitted awhile ago that you admire Hitler. I personally think he was a psycho path and one of the worst human beings who ever lived.

[Jester]

However, it's hard to imagine Hitler retiring somewhere though, like Argentina. He was not the kind of man who could retire into a peaceful quiet life. He was too extreme and intense for that. He would have had nothing to live for. Like Alexander the Great, he could not retire and live a quiet secluded life into old age. He was the kind of man who had to go out in a blaze of glory.

True. He obviously planned a comeback, like Napoleon. Conditions were never right during his lifetime. But lots of leaders go into exile plotting a comeback.

He seemed to believe that suicide was a proper penalty for failure. So why wouldn't he commit suicide himself since he believed it was the honorable way out for failing? Wouldn't he practice what he preached?

He did order suicides for betrayal, not for failure. But he didn't betray Germany, so suicide was not called for.

He would have gone down fighting in the German National Redoubt, probably. But he decided to pull out in order to put an end to the destruction of Germany, and perhaps to keep the Russians from getting even more. Last minute German resistance (Werewolf, etc) did not materialize, obviously because of secret orders to stop and wait it out.

Here's one credible synsopsis.
http://believenothing.net/tag/hitler/

I read another account, can't find it right now, about a guy who as a young artist/backpacker type had befriended Germans in the Bariloche area, and had eventually been invited to meet the aging Hitler (then working as an art dealer) and show his art.

And yeah, he had kids, a couple of daughters I think.

Suicide would have been justified to escape capture by "Allied" torturers and rapists. (Nuremberg defendants were threatened with their wives being raped if they didn't confess. And the defendants themselves, in Russian custody at least, were routinely tortured or beaten, according to Albert Speer.) But though suicide would have been justified, Hitler's end was not so Wagnerian.

[Winston]

Jamesbond,
Why do you keep starting threads about Hitler? You've started three of them now. You seem to be fascinated with anyone controversial. lol. Did you mark this important anniversary on your calendar? lol.

Winston, this is the 70th anniversary or Hitler's death which is pretty significant. You even admitted awhile ago that you admire Hitler. I personally think he was a psycho path and one of the worst human beings who ever lived.

If that's so, then why are you starting threads about him? lol. Why are you fascinated by him? Perhaps because there's a fine line between love and hate. lol.

You gotta admit that Hitler arouses emotion in you, that's why he sticks out in your mind. Watch the videos of him and his reign on YouTube. They will titillate you with passion and glory. lol

[pandabear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKgHUrKZiXA

[Moretorque]

I have a hard time believing the story as told by the western power establishment at all, there is no way the elite lost total control over Germany in WW2 when they completely took it over in WW 1. I believe WW 2 was just business as usual for the ruling class and they owned the corporate structure in Germany which built the war machine there and Hitler was just another pawn overall setup as a historical dupe.

I believe he may have gotten away possibly.

[Cornfed]

I have a hard time believing the story as told by the western power establishment at all, there is no way the elite lost total control over Germany in WW2 when they completely took it over in WW 1. I believe WW 2 was just business as usual for the ruling class and they owned the corporate structure in Germany which built the war machine there and Hitler was just another pawn overall setup as a historical dupe.

Well, maybe, but as pawns go he at least told it like it was.

[Jester]

I have no reason to disbelieve an account I read, by an Illuminati-minion Jew aristocrat, claiming to have acted as a courier to Hitler at one point in a onetime anonymous contribution. A lot of money flows to people who are rising in politics.

Clearly though, Hitler was no puppet, and clearly Germany's successes almost turned what may have started as a setup, into a surprise victory.

[Jester]

Worth posting anytime someone mentions Western Imperialism exploiting Third World etc.

I had no idea Hitler had addressed this.

[Moretorque]

Thanks Cornfed

I was reading the UTUBE comment section and the chase is through, forget about fighting over it. The situation man is in and has been in reminds me of the Star Trek episode Let That Be Your last Battle Field. It's sad but true in some way's when looking at alot of the human condition. The religion racism part is just a front for world domination by the group he speaks of.

The only chance is the youth realize we have left them a rapidly dying planet and we all unite and decide to go another direction and immediately everybody start to clean this place up for future generations.

Other than that divine intervention and I believe humanity may not be worth it if it's at all possible anyway.

[Moretorque]

Never mind, I just spent about 45 minutes at the local Burger joint checking the up and coming generation out .

[Jester]

the best thing to do is target all populated areas with multiple ICBM's and then add an additional salvo or two for college towns.