Negro Riots in Baltimore

[Yohan]

I don't care if somebody is white, black or Asian etc., however as I said before, if people of any race are showing up throwing stones, carrying out arson attacks, looting shops, damaging cars, assaulting other people next to them etc. what shall police in USA do about it? Nothing?

Sorry, but police have to arrest them, judges have sent them to jail. What else do you expect police to do? To say this is 'ignorant'?

It is true that police in USA has a remarkably bad reputation - worldwide. However how does this justify riots? Destroying your own community?
Such clearly criminal behavior makes everything worse and not better for sure.

[Yohan]

What I don't understand is why Blacks continue to suffer racism in Anglo countries (USA, England), yet, continue to pour into those countries, en masse, from African and Black Caribbean countries. If racism is so bad, leave those countries like I did ...(and I'm not even Black, I'm Asian).

True, I myself left Europe for ever and I am neither black nor Asian. I am white.

In case of race discrimination against me or my children in Asia I might be angry or sad or whatever, but I would never loot shops or consider arson because of that.

I had however rarely any bad discussion about racism in Asia. Openly said, the huge majority of Asian people are treating me much better than my own countrymen while I was still in Europe.

[BlackGuyFromEngland]

I don't care if somebody is white, black or Asian etc., however as I said before, if people of any race are showing up throwing stones, carrying out arson attacks, looting shops, damaging cars, assaulting other people next to them etc. what shall police in USA do about it? Nothing?

Well here is the problem with what you are saying. What you are saying is correct in the abstract, but wrong in context. If I told you to brush your teeth everyday, that's a correct thing to say, in abstract but if you have just had your teeth knocked out in a car accident, that's wrong thing to say in that context. So saying people should not throwing stones, carrying out arson attacks, looting shops, damaging cars, assaulting other people is correct in abstact, but in the context of cops killing black people all the time, it's wrong.

Cops are held to a higher standard. A teacher can't be late for their class often, then say "Well you lot are late too". Because you hold them to a higher standard and if you have the power to kill me and walk free, you better believe I'm gonna be hold you to a higher standard.

This ‘respectability doctrine’ prevails on black people to accept our role in the house of white racism; a house that we did not ask to be held captive in. The onus turns on us to become respectable to whites when whites created the rules that make us unrespectable by default. It is a hamster wheel within the cage. Mentally, I’m off the wheel.

My self-respect is not contingent on any rules white society establishes. But nevertheless white people can fly planes into buildings, shoot up movie theaters, schools, religious buildings, rape children both here and abroad (Korea, Bangkok, recently Kenya) commit multiple acts of domestic terrorism and crimes against humanity yet never have to prove their humanity to anyone b

Sorry, but police have to arrest them, judges have sent them to jail. What else do you expect police to do? To say this is 'ignorant'?

Your attention always appears to be skewed in one direction. In the case of so called Black pathologies its Black people. Yes… By all means have the discussion about why these riots are occuring. But if you are also not prepared to focus the same attention discussing the perceived causes, then you are either being disingenuous or not really serious.

It is true that police in USA has a remarkably bad reputation - worldwide. However how does this justify riots? Destroying your own community?
Such clearly criminal behavior makes everything worse and not better for sure.

Because, after all, poor Black people own so much. Because liquor stores help the community. Because CVS is Black-owned. Because Black people are destroying their chance of being treated like animals by Arab and Asian shopkeepers from behind bulletproof glass. Because those same shopkeepers hire so many Black people and do not drain money from the community. Because Wells Fargo and other banks have nothing to do with abandoned houses.

Many people love to ask the question: “Why are Black people destroying their own community?” The businesses that are being destroyed are NOT theirs to begin with and never do they say anything about Black people respecting and protecting their Black-owned businesses.

[BlackGuyFromEngland]

What I don't understand is why Blacks continue to suffer racism in Anglo countries (USA, England), yet, continue to pour into those countries, en masse, from African and Black Caribbean countries. If racism is so bad, leave those countries like I did (and I'm not even Black, I'm Asian).

Don't think that blacks are richer in USA or Europe because Whites have been kinder to them than Africans would be.

Wrong - Blacks are richer in America or Europe because America and Europe is richer.

The pie is so big in America and Europe that even when it is divided unjustly, as it is, it still leaves most people with more pie than any ordinary person some (Not all) parts of Africa. Poverty can be worse than racism. But that does not excuse racism.

You suffer in the area of perception, it's limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding. Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further...You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and call the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals, they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation. White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa. Africans have never seen any of the profits.

Under apartheid and colonialism Africans faced generations of generations of lost of vital skill banks. So while Europeans were getting access to qualifications and then acquiring years of experience and special knowledge in nation building sectors, these opportunities were denied to African people. So whites were ruling over the continent subjugating the people, all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles. And now they want to point the finger at generations of people and say “Why don’t you run your country better ?” As if all it takes is to one day say “Go free !! And BAM !!” Those people are able to catch up.

But now the world bank gives out credits to African countries for building up their infrastructures for the sole purpose of insuring the interests of the multinationals and their Western resource junkies.

The resource rich African countries are held hostage by the West through debt. The payback is done by even more resources at ridiculously low prices. The higher the debt the tougher the negotiation basis and the least favourable for the producing country. Those countries are drawn into handcuff contracts of globally or regionally exclusive authorisations to exploit certain local resources.

The USA alone (5% of the world population) consume 30% of produced African natural resources which they purchase at bargain prices or for virtually nothing as debt payback. In contrast, local infrastructures are crumbling, social programmes and local developments are cut because of the paybacks of interests and the debt itself. Corruption does the rest.

The so-called debt relief by Western powers is demonstrative and self-indulgent. Those ‘alleviations’ always come with a price. The resource producing countries have to sell everything for a special discount price which opens the doors to all sorts of speculations from foreign investors demanding high returns. Another byproduct the West is expecting from their ‘generous gestures’ is to get some more positive votes at the next UN assembly. Then there are the investors who move offshore the astronomical profits they have made at the end of the chain in their Western economies, not least in order to let them disappear off the grip of their own tax authorities, expecting fairly certain high returns overseas. In case of non-compliance to their conditions, they threaten the local authorities to pull their funds out or threaten them to initiate another ‘government turnover’. Democratically of course…

Education doesn't equal intelligence, intelligence doesn't equal knowledge, knowledge doesn't equal understanding, and understanding doesn't equal wisdom. Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people. Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

[zboy1]

You're just doing more whining and complaining, BlackGuy. Asia was dirt poor--and poorer--than many African countries 50 years ago; yet, through hard work, perserverance and entrepreneurship, Asia was able to advance and equal many White countries in a few decades. This was helped by Asians who returned from Western countries to make the region strong again.

You're telling me overseas Africans/African Americans can't do that with the African countries?

[Jester]

Negro misbehavior is one issue.

Police malfeasance is another.

The media (left and right) are conflating the two issues to suit their own purposes.

In other words, the police would STILL be juiced-up angry tyrannical assholes, even if there were no Blacks.

The Black criminal/welfare "underclass" would STILL be worthless and useless, even if there no police.

But most home invasions are done by cops, not Blacks. So, deal with the most dangerous and immediate enemy first.

I am not going to become a sycophantic "running dog" red-stater, barking at the heels of the Occupier, just because there are other, lesser threats around.

Even if The Man DID keep us safe from crime, I STILL wouldn't choose obsequious slavery.

[Ghost]

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[The]

You're just doing more whining and complaining, BlackGuy. Asia was dirt poor--and poorer--than many African countries 50 years ago; yet, through hard work, perserverance and entrepreneurship, Asia was able to advance and equal many White countries in a few decades. This was helped by Asians who returned from Western countries to make the region strong again.

You're telling me overseas Africans/African Americans can't do that with the African countries?

He has no answer because he knows that Africa is shit, and many people try to flee from it especially to Europe and the Americas.....This negro will probably blame white supremacy or slavery as to why Africans can't lift up there own CONTINENT!

How come other ethnic groups do not have the same issues and a high crime rate like the American Negro does?

[Jester]

Without ghetto blacks, they'd turn to whatever other tools were there.

Yes. This is the point.

[Moretorque]

What I don't understand is why Blacks continue to suffer racism in Anglo countries (USA, England), yet, continue to pour into those countries, en masse, from African and Black Caribbean countries. If racism is so bad, leave those countries like I did (and I'm not even Black, I'm Asian).

Don't think that blacks are richer in USA or Europe because Whites have been kinder to them than Africans would be.

Wrong - Blacks are richer in America or Europe because America and Europe is richer.

The pie is so big in America and Europe that even when it is divided unjustly, as it is, it still leaves most people with more pie than any ordinary person some (Not all) parts of Africa. Poverty can be worse than racism. But that does not excuse racism.

You suffer in the area of perception, it's limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding. Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further...You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and call the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals, they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation. White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa. Africans have never seen any of the profits.

Under apartheid and colonialism Africans faced generations of generations of lost of vital skill banks. So while Europeans were getting access to qualifications and then acquiring years of experience and special knowledge in nation building sectors, these opportunities were denied to African people. So whites were ruling over the continent subjugating the people, all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles. And now they want to point the finger at generations of people and say “Why don’t you run your country better ?” As if all it takes is to one day say “Go free !! And BAM !!” Those people are able to catch up.

But now the world bank gives out credits to African countries for building up their infrastructures for the sole purpose of insuring the interests of the multinationals and their Western resource junkies.

The resource rich African countries are held hostage by the West through debt. The payback is done by even more resources at ridiculously low prices. The higher the debt the tougher the negotiation basis and the least favourable for the producing country. Those countries are drawn into handcuff contracts of globally or regionally exclusive authorisations to exploit certain local resources.

The USA alone (5% of the world population) consume 30% of produced African natural resources which they purchase at bargain prices or for virtually nothing as debt payback. In contrast, local infrastructures are crumbling, social programmes and local developments are cut because of the paybacks of interests and the debt itself. Corruption does the rest.

The so-called debt relief by Western powers is demonstrative and self-indulgent. Those ‘alleviations’ always come with a price. The resource producing countries have to sell everything for a special discount price which opens the doors to all sorts of speculations from foreign investors demanding high returns. Another byproduct the West is expecting from their ‘generous gestures’ is to get some more positive votes at the next UN assembly. Then there are the investors who move offshore the astronomical profits they have made at the end of the chain in their Western economies, not least in order to let them disappear off the grip of their own tax authorities, expecting fairly certain high returns overseas. In case of non-compliance to their conditions, they threaten the local authorities to pull their funds out or threaten them to initiate another ‘government turnover’. Democratically of course…

Education doesn't equal intelligence, intelligence doesn't equal knowledge, knowledge doesn't equal understanding, and understanding doesn't equal wisdom. Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people. Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

Hey I love your writing style. What is it like in England ? I agree with most of what you say to a point. The people who put the system together do play off us all for what they want and they are the European white boys.

I here England is has turned into a complete mess from mass immigration and the people had no say the ruling class just did it like usual, do not kid yourself America is going down quick as well as most of Europe they are moving most of the capital, technologies and brains to the East.

[travelsouth]

This thread is troubling on a variety of things. First, there are black men on here that have good jobs, earn money, and travel around meeting women overseas. I've been pretty vocal in being honest that I really don't care too much about the Asian or Black man's problems dating internationally. As descendants of English people who lived in the Northern USA I don't really have any agenda at all nor would I allow myself to be drug into a debate that's not about me. I've hung out with people of all races. Some of those people were cool and some of them were not.

Throwing all black people (or all people of any race) under the bus is just stupid IMO. I'm not sure this site needs to be or would benefit from being only white and pacific islander/asian. Every time some redneck beats his woman I don't get classified in with that guy. So for the shake of common sense, let's not call all black people rioters. Because they could be your doctor, lawyer, or college professor. SMH. Condemn some individuals all you like though... just not based on superficial reasons.

[The]

This thread is troubling on a variety of things. First, there are black men on here that have good jobs, earn money, and travel around meeting women overseas

So for the shake of common sense, let's not call all black people rioters. Because they could be your doctor, lawyer, or college professor. SMH. Condemn some individuals all you like though... just not based on superficial reasons.

No one here is saying that some lack people don't have good jobs or make great money and travel....No one is saying that...And no one is saying that all black people are rioters.....Where are you getting this from!?! Have you even read the thread? Sheesh!!

[hammanta]

What I don't understand is why Blacks continue to suffer racism in Anglo countries (USA, England), yet, continue to pour into those countries, en masse, from African and Black Caribbean countries. If racism is so bad, leave those countries like I did (and I'm not even Black, I'm Asian).

Don't think that blacks are richer in USA or Europe because Whites have been kinder to them than Africans would be.

Wrong - Blacks are richer in America or Europe because America and Europe is richer.

The pie is so big in America and Europe that even when it is divided unjustly, as it is, it still leaves most people with more pie than any ordinary person some (Not all) parts of Africa. Poverty can be worse than racism. But that does not excuse racism.

You suffer in the area of perception, it's limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding. Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further...You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and call the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals, they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation. White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa. Africans have never seen any of the profits.

Under apartheid and colonialism Africans faced generations of generations of lost of vital skill banks. So while Europeans were getting access to qualifications and then acquiring years of experience and special knowledge in nation building sectors, these opportunities were denied to African people. So whites were ruling over the continent subjugating the people, all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles. And now they want to point the finger at generations of people and say “Why don’t you run your country better ?” As if all it takes is to one day say “Go free !! And BAM !!” Those people are able to catch up.

But now the world bank gives out credits to African countries for building up their infrastructures for the sole purpose of insuring the interests of the multinationals and their Western resource junkies.

The resource rich African countries are held hostage by the West through debt. The payback is done by even more resources at ridiculously low prices. The higher the debt the tougher the negotiation basis and the least favourable for the producing country. Those countries are drawn into handcuff contracts of globally or regionally exclusive authorisations to exploit certain local resources.

The USA alone (5% of the world population) consume 30% of produced African natural resources which they purchase at bargain prices or for virtually nothing as debt payback. In contrast, local infrastructures are crumbling, social programmes and local developments are cut because of the paybacks of interests and the debt itself. Corruption does the rest.

The so-called debt relief by Western powers is demonstrative and self-indulgent. Those ‘alleviations’ always come with a price. The resource producing countries have to sell everything for a special discount price which opens the doors to all sorts of speculations from foreign investors demanding high returns. Another byproduct the West is expecting from their ‘generous gestures’ is to get some more positive votes at the next UN assembly. Then there are the investors who move offshore the astronomical profits they have made at the end of the chain in their Western economies, not least in order to let them disappear off the grip of their own tax authorities, expecting fairly certain high returns overseas. In case of non-compliance to their conditions, they threaten the local authorities to pull their funds out or threaten them to initiate another ‘government turnover’. Democratically of course…

Education doesn't equal intelligence, intelligence doesn't equal knowledge, knowledge doesn't equal understanding, and understanding doesn't equal wisdom. Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people. Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

Hey I love your writing style, very whitieized. What is it like in England ? I agree with most of what you say to a point. The people who put the system together do play off us all for what they want and they are the European white boys.

I here England is has turned into a complete mess from mass immigration and the people had no say the ruling class just did it like usual, do not kid yourself America is going down quick as well as most of Europe they are moving most of the capital, technologies and brains to the East.

Have you met Cornfed ? Cornfed come out come out where ever you are daddy's here. The core blood line of humanity and well educated too I might add. I hear alot of English black's are well educated and are like what happened to the American African population ?

Just joshin yaa.

I too was wondering when Cornfed would join this debate. I have my popcorn ready...

[starchild5]

What I don't understand is why Blacks continue to suffer racism in Anglo countries (USA, England), yet, continue to pour into those countries, en masse, from African and Black Caribbean countries. If racism is so bad, leave those countries like I did (and I'm not even Black, I'm Asian).

Don't think that blacks are richer in USA or Europe because Whites have been kinder to them than Africans would be.

Wrong - Blacks are richer in America or Europe because America and Europe is richer.

The pie is so big in America and Europe that even when it is divided unjustly, as it is, it still leaves most people with more pie than any ordinary person some (Not all) parts of Africa. Poverty can be worse than racism. But that does not excuse racism.

You suffer in the area of perception, it's limited to what other people you respect have told you as opposed to finding your own knowledge and understanding. Your information concentrates on the end result and my observations speculate on the cause. I'll use a sport anology to break it down even further...You're like a ref who catches the end of the play and call the foul based on what you saw. I on the other hand have seen the play develop and saw the first elbow thrown.

The reason that blacks have not been able to prosper with indepedence in Africa lays with the fact that the European metropoles do not view these countries as equals, they still view them as former colonies which are ripe for exploitation. White Europeans own controlling interests in many of the natural resources in Africa. Africans have never seen any of the profits.

Under apartheid and colonialism Africans faced generations of generations of lost of vital skill banks. So while Europeans were getting access to qualifications and then acquiring years of experience and special knowledge in nation building sectors, these opportunities were denied to African people. So whites were ruling over the continent subjugating the people, all the while sucking out the natural resources then leaving them in a shambles. And now they want to point the finger at generations of people and say “Why don’t you run your country better ?” As if all it takes is to one day say “Go free !! And BAM !!” Those people are able to catch up.

But now the world bank gives out credits to African countries for building up their infrastructures for the sole purpose of insuring the interests of the multinationals and their Western resource junkies.

The resource rich African countries are held hostage by the West through debt. The payback is done by even more resources at ridiculously low prices. The higher the debt the tougher the negotiation basis and the least favourable for the producing country. Those countries are drawn into handcuff contracts of globally or regionally exclusive authorisations to exploit certain local resources.

The USA alone (5% of the world population) consume 30% of produced African natural resources which they purchase at bargain prices or for virtually nothing as debt payback. In contrast, local infrastructures are crumbling, social programmes and local developments are cut because of the paybacks of interests and the debt itself. Corruption does the rest.

The so-called debt relief by Western powers is demonstrative and self-indulgent. Those ‘alleviations’ always come with a price. The resource producing countries have to sell everything for a special discount price which opens the doors to all sorts of speculations from foreign investors demanding high returns. Another byproduct the West is expecting from their ‘generous gestures’ is to get some more positive votes at the next UN assembly. Then there are the investors who move offshore the astronomical profits they have made at the end of the chain in their Western economies, not least in order to let them disappear off the grip of their own tax authorities, expecting fairly certain high returns overseas. In case of non-compliance to their conditions, they threaten the local authorities to pull their funds out or threaten them to initiate another ‘government turnover’. Democratically of course…

Education doesn't equal intelligence, intelligence doesn't equal knowledge, knowledge doesn't equal understanding, and understanding doesn't equal wisdom. Observe, find you own understanding outside the books, or even other people. Calling me radical is the ultimate compliment, cause that means I'm blazing my own path, long as I keep moving, its all good.

You are mistaking whites with jews. The entire slave system, exploitation was created by what is now known as Askanazi Jews.

I'm not a white guy, so its impartial. Even India was destroyed by the Jews not white...Why should white people take the blame for what Jews did ?

Jews did not auction Africans during Jewish Holidays..Google it...

Not a single white was responsible for the entire African slavery.

Just because Jews look white does not mean they are Caucasian race...

Blacks never address these issues to Jews....They always take all grievances to the Caucasians

Even whites are victim of jewish thuggery ...they are used as cannon fodder for Jewish agendas...

We should all join forces...Blacks, Whites, Asians to root out the evil called Askanazi's

[Yohan]

Throwing all black people (or all people of any race) under the bus is just stupid IMO.
.....
..... let's not call all black people rioters. Because they could be your doctor, lawyer, or college professor. SMH. Condemn some individuals all you like though...

Who writes anything here about 'all black people'? From where did you get that?

This thread is about riots in USA, about senseless looting, arson etc. in some few small parts of USA. - It is about people who do not see any difference anymore between right and wrong, just having fun to attack others and to destroy property.

It has a lot to do with thugs, regardless their race.

I am not so sure if only black people participated as rioters and looters, likely some white trash also was throwing rocks and smashing cars and stealing things out of burning shops.

Anyway, whoever did this, such behavior cannot be excused, such actions are not justified and police has to do something about it.

BTW, it is in many cases not the property of white people which was destroyed, but about black people, just ordinary working people, who had their shop, house, car etc. in that area.

Police in USA has a bad reputation, nobody will deny that - but this is not a valid argument to justify vandalism.