Some observations of American girls vs foreign...

[jamesbond]

I will keep you in my prayers and hope the best for you that's all I can do adama. Oh and I hope you find your 'unicorn' of a woman here in America. Like you said, there are lot's of good women here in the US.

[Adama]

I will keep you in my prayers and hope the best for you that's all I can do adama. Oh and I hope you find your 'unicorn' of a woman here in America. Like you said, there are lot's of good women here in the US.

BTW, JB, it isnt just judging. No matter what you do, God promises to pay it back.

Be not deceived: God is not mocked. For whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

[Adama]

I'm not even going to argue about it, because I am not here to change anyone's mind. You've each already made up your minds. I merely stated my opinions. Believe what you want.

You are a traditionally minded man, which to me is the only thing that truly matters. Your interpretation of your faith is your own, and I respect that entirely. It just saddens me somewhat to hear my Catholic family members, who are so very dear to me, being referred to as "not true Christians". Especially since my own children and grandchildren will be raised in this religion and culture.

Just so we are absolutely clear, though: there are certain elements in Catholicism that I personally do not agree with at all. The same can be said of various other denominations, including and not limited to protestantism, adventists, LDS, reformed, born again, you name it.

It depends on your definition of a Christian. Catholics do many things which many Christians do not do. Such things like praying to Mary and 'The Saints,' kissing statues (pics of the Pope doing this), bowing to statues, having statues period, forbidding bishops and deacons to marry, believing in the doctrine of the church over the Word of God, forbidding meats to be eaten on certain days, over emphasis on the eucharist, preaching in foreign languages which attendees can not understand, and many other things, all of which separate Catholics and their Church from the rest of Christianity. The Catholics also base entry into heaven on works and keeping sacraments, which damns those who believe that to hell. The Bible is clear. The only way to heaven is by faith alone in Jesus, and those who have faith alone in Jesus believe the Bible and accept it as the truth, from Adam to John and Paul.

The Pope also elevates himself above Jesus. The priests in Catholicism claim to be the mediators, when the Bible says Christ is the only mediator between God and men. The Pope claims to be Christ's representative on earth. The Bible says call no man father, but the Pope and other priests claim that spiritual title, just as the Rabbis claim the name master, which is also forbidden by Jesus Christ Himself! The Catholics also changed their ten commandments to omit the commandment against making engraven images, i.e. statues. The Bible says to confess your faults to one another (and not the priest), not confess your sins. Big difference. And every believer is a saint and a priest in real Christianity, not just the select few who are chosen or degreed monks. Also, Catholics have more in common with Buddhism than they do with Christianity. Who else has monasteries full of celibate men who live on the donations of others? And on and on.

The Bible also has quite a few verses which knock out much of Catholic doctrine. The Catholic church isnt supported by the Bible. And the one verse they claim when Jesus ordains Peter is a misinterpretation of what Jesus was speaking of. The ones who believe Jesus is the Son of God are the righteous, and they are the ones on which the church will be built.

[Adama]

One last time for the poor souls out there.

There are two theoretical ways to get to heaven. Pay close attention.

You can get there under your own power through works, also known as actions, deeds, keeping the law, doing unto others, or being a good person.

Or you can get there by believing that Jesus Christ died for all of our sins, past, present and future, and that after we believe, there is nothing that can change the fact that we have eternal life. This is also known as Once saved always saved, easy believism, eternal security. This is the only way to heaven.

Why? Because even though you think you are an awesome person, you are not pure or good in God's eyes. God is the one who judges the purity of the hearts. So even though you think you may not have ever done anything worthy of going to hell, God says you're condemned already, because you never believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Everyone has sin. Getting to heaven by being a good person would be like trying to build a tower to heaven. You can't get there under your own power. And even if you could get there, God still would not let you in.

Why do I bring this up? Knowing this, you can tell which parts of "Christianity" are real and which ones are not. The ones which insist that entry into heaven (salvation) is by faith alone and can never be lost regardless of your actions, are the true Christianity. Because you can not earn entry into heaven, there is also nothing you can do to earn loss of that gift. It is a gift. God promised nothing would take it away for any reason.

The religions which tell you that you must be a good person, do good things, forsake sin, repent from sin, etc., are all false religions designed to take people away from Jesus. How do we know this? because every false religion on earth preaches about doing good works to get to heaven. Christianity is the only one which says entirely that in order to get into heaven all you must do is put your faith in Jesus Christ and that is it.

Now if you are Christian, why do you have more in common with a Buddhist than you do a real Christian? Because your church adds sacraments to your faith, with sacraments being work, which means you're adding work to faith. We are saved by faith alone. Adding works to faith is not placing all your faith on Jesus. Therefore you're not trusting the Lord. You're still trusting your own work. Does that have something to do with Buddhism? Yes, Buddhism also says you must do good works, or at least abstain from evil works, in order to reach the ultimate level of reincarnation. That is work salvation.

The word Karma is ancient Sanskrit for work. By the works of the law shall no flesh be justified in His sight.


Now after I have explained all this, if you are still clueless then you need to smack yourself in the face a couple of times and then find a Bible believing church so you can save your soul.

[Zambales]

Get yourself saved and these things will be illuminated for you. Jesus promised that anyone who follows him will have the light of life. You'll know the truth, and the truth will make you free.

I am saved, I'm not Protestant.

It just goes to show you how arrogant and judgmental some so called 'Christians' are.

Having being born into a Protestant family, I totally agree, although followers from other religions can be just as bad.

[Yohan]

...indicates that you're not a Christian. You're Catholic. Not even nearly the same thing.

This is a very strange statement, as the Catholic Church is the oldest one, followed by the Orthodox Church and around 1500 by the Protestants, but all 3 of them believe in the Trinity except some groups of the Protestants called Unitarians.

Protestants are known to look always for excuses to justify easy life style, it is about something like believing too much in the Bible. Whatever you do, you just repent and Jesus will forgive. You have even now females, lesbian couples, who are legally same-sex married, serving as bishops in Sweden.

Basically said, all who believe in Jesus as a 'God' and not merely as a messenger are Christians. If you do not believe in Jesus as divine, you are moving away from Christianity and more into Islam where Jesus is a respected prophet, but not considered as 'divine'.

Adama: If you are saved, then God will reveal the answers to you if you ask Him.

I wonder why you call your god as 'him' and not as 'her'.
There are some liberal movements which consider seriously research indicating that Jesus was a female.

http://www.jdstone.org/cr/files/genetic ... woman.html
GENETICS PROVES THAT JESUS WAS A WOMAN

It is however not even clear if Jesus existed as a real person of if he or she is merely a product out of human fantasy.

[Adama]

At no point did you, Adama, state that Catholics do not believe that from Christ comes their salvation. Adding works on faith means only that we wish to follow in the good example Jesus has set; to be good to your fellow man, to help your brothers and sisters. How simple would it be, for a man to just say "I believe in Christ, I believe in finding salvation through Him", and then continue to live a life of sin.

A man may have a "pure heart", may believe in God truly, and yet he does not care about his fellow man, he is selfish and he lives for his own pleasure while ignoring the needs of others. His Buddhist neighbor volunteers in a soup kitchen every weekend, his Muslim neighbor gives 10 percent of his income to the poor, his Catholic neighboor takes care of two hopeless foster children... but it is the man doing no works, showing now kindness, who is saved only by the virtue of believing?

Unfortunately for you and the others who believe they are doing good works, we are going by God's standards, not by the standards that men set. It makes sense to you that faith + works is the way to get to heaven, or simply by works alone, and that is fine that you think that way. However that is not the standard which God has set. God says the people who believe in Jesus through faith alone are the ones who are justified. There is nothing bad about doing good work, as long as you realize that good work doesnt grant you entry into heaven. Good work gets you a greater reward in heaven, but it doesnt get you in. If you think doing good work gets you into heaven in any way, then you are not trusting on the Lord Jesus to get you there. You are putting some of your faith on work. God requires that all of your faith be in Jesus.

So the Muslim with the feeding kitchen is still on his road to hell, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God. It is pretty clear.

All religions are not equal. Once again, True Christianity is faith in Jesus Christ alone without works. All other religions think they can get to heaven or enlightenment through doing good work / avoiding doing bad things. Christianity is about Jesus Christ (a surprise to you, I know). It isnt about the individual, or the individual's work.

Any work that is done without Jesus doesnt count in God's eyes. Those good works are an abomination to Him. And the evil deeds that men do far outweighs the good works they do. The only way to be pure enough to get into heaven is to believe in Jesus. When you believe in Jesus, God justifies you and purifies your soul. He doesnt count sin against your soul once you believe in Jesus, but if you never believed, God is still counting all your sins, and He is not looking favorably upon your good works, because you're trying to do good without having faith. So the prayers of unbelievers go unheard.

Once again, the Catholics church adds sacraments to faith, which is a form of work. Sacraments are works. Adding works to faith condemns anyone who believes it. That is damnable heresy. As in, believing it will send you to hell.

I can not express things any more clearly than that.

Are there Catholics who are saved? Yes, but probably by accident, and not by believing Catholic doctrine. Any Catholics who believes the way the Catholic church says is on the road to hell.

[Adama]

...indicates that you're not a Christian. You're Catholic. Not even nearly the same thing.

This is a very strange statement, as the Catholic Church is the oldest one, followed by the Orthodox Church and around 1500 by the Protestants, but all 3 of them believe in the Trinity except some groups of the Protestants called Unitarians.

Protestants are known to look always for excuses to justify easy life style, it is about something like believing too much in the Bible. Whatever you do, you just repent and Jesus will forgive. You have even now females, lesbian couples, who are legally same-sex married, serving as bishops in Sweden.

Basically said, all who believe in Jesus as a 'God' and not merely as a messenger are Christians. If you do not believe in Jesus as divine, you are moving away from Christianity and more into Islam where Jesus is a respected prophet, but not considered as 'divine'.

Adama: If you are saved, then God will reveal the answers to you if you ask Him.

I wonder why you call your god as 'him' and not as 'her'.
There are some liberal movements which consider seriously research indicating that Jesus was a female.

http://www.jdstone.org/cr/files/genetic ... woman.html
GENETICS PROVES THAT JESUS WAS A WOMAN

It is however not even clear if Jesus existed as a real person of if he or she is merely a product out of human fantasy.

That's the wisdom of the world, not God's wisdom. The Catholic church can claim anything it wants to. Nothing about it is supported by scripture, and there are many verses which knock out much of Catholic doctrine. The Catholic church is an international institution of men. It has little if anything to do with God, except for lip service.

[Adama]

Matthew 6:7 KJV

But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

Does this remind you of repeating Hail Mary a thousand times? Further proof that Catholics are unbelievers. He says right here this is what the heathen do because they think God will hear them. He will not hear them because they are heathens.

1 Timothy

4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

The Catholics forbid priests to marry, they command to abstain from meats on certain days. Notice that God reminds us that those who are saved are those who believe and know the truth. Jesus is the way the truth and the life. It is Him that saves us. God also tells us that Catholicism is the doctrine of demons right here. Also, how can priests give advice on family when they have none of their own (supposedly)?


Psalm 118 (KJV)

8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

Colossians 2
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

The Catholic church wants you to believe the Pope and Catholic doctrine rather than the Bible. Are things getting clearer?

18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Beguile means to trick. Voluntary humility means he is a fake. Worshipping of angels, remind you of praying to Mary and Saints, kissing statues? Tricking you out of your reward really means damning you to hell with damnable heresy.

Jeremiah 44 (KJV)

16 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee.

17 But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.

The devil has been tricking people for thousands of years into thinking that there is a Queen in heaven. For the Catholics, it is Mary, who they pray to, and who they believe in an intercessor with God and Christ on behalf of humanity.

1 Timothy 3 (KJV)

2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous;

4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity;

Bishops are commanded to: 1 have children, 2. have one wife, 3 have his children in subjection, 4 not be given to much wine. Does this sound like the Catholic church to you? Does that sound like the priestly class?

Exodus 20 (KJV)

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

The Catholic church omitted this verse. Why? Because they worship statues and the devils that indwell them.

Matthew 23 (KJV)

9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

Surely the Catholic church would not ignore an direct commandment from God Himself on earth to not call themselves Father?

Do you get it now? They are not of God. They are of men at best.

Every believer is a saint and a priest.

[Yohan]

...There is nothing bad about doing good work, as long as you realize that good work doesnt grant you entry into heaven. Good work gets you a greater reward in heaven, but it doesnt get you in. If you think doing good work gets you into heaven in any way, then you are not trusting on the Lord Jesus to get you there. You are putting some of your faith on work. God requires that all of your faith be in Jesus.
So the Muslim with the feeding kitchen is still on his road to hell, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God. It is pretty clear.
All religions are not equal.

What you write here means more or less nothing else but your god supports the lazy person because he claims to have 'faith' and everybody else working hard - even helping this lazy Christian guy - will go to hell. Something wrong.

This is not what I expect a good religion to be. Anyway, I do not consider Christianity to be a good religion.
About Jesus and all these religious fantasy products, there is only one answer: If you really want to know if any form of a god exists, you have to die.

[Adama]

...There is nothing bad about doing good work, as long as you realize that good work doesnt grant you entry into heaven. Good work gets you a greater reward in heaven, but it doesnt get you in. If you think doing good work gets you into heaven in any way, then you are not trusting on the Lord Jesus to get you there. You are putting some of your faith on work. God requires that all of your faith be in Jesus.

So the Muslim with the feeding kitchen is still on his road to hell, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God. It is pretty clear.

All religions are not equal.

What you write here means more or less nothing else but your god supports the lazy person only because he claims to have 'faith' - and everybody else working hard - even helping this lazy Christian guy - will go to hell. Something wrong.

This is not what I expect a good religion to be.
About Jesus and all these religious fantasy products, there is only one answer: If you really want to know if any form of a god exists, you have to die.

As for who is right and who is wrong, we will see on The Last Day.

[Yohan]

As for who is right and who is wrong, we will see on The Last Day.

It seems you are running out of arguments. Even the Pope in Rome does not agree with you.
This means all what you write in this thread is merely a product out of your fantasy and even after entering the heaven you still have to wait for the Last Day of this universe?

[Adama]

As for who is right and who is wrong, we will see on The Last Day.

It seems you are running out of arguments. Even the Pope in Rome does not agree with you.
This means all what you write in this thread is merely a product out of your fantasy and even after entering the heaven you still have to wait for the Last Day of this universe?

The Pope is not Christ. He is just a man. And why do you hold his opinion so highly, if you hate Christianity so much and you believe he is Christian? See, you are just an antagonist just for argument sake. That is fine, but don't pretend you are on the side of the truth, when you've already said you hate Christianity. None of this thread is for you. You don't need to involve yourself in a discussion of something which you have convinced yourself is not real.

Your last day will be when you die. Then you will receive your reward. That is when you will know for yourself that the God of the Bible is alive. I highly suspect for you however, that you will not like the outcome you received for eternity. God will even remind you, at the Great White Throne Judgment, that you were told the truth, and that you refused to receive it, because you didn't love the truth.

And as far as your insults to me, I find them to be welcome.

[Adama]

Live and let live, brother. There is no point in arguing right or wrong here; believing is a choice. One day, if there truly is a heaven awaiting us, I will have a cold one with Jesus and have Him explain it all to my simple mind so that I may be enlightened at last.

Take it easy. Your faith is yours and yours only and no one can take it away from you.

There is only one way to heaven. Most people think any old religion is good. That is not true. People are entitled to believe whatever they want. I would just suggest to them that they choose to believe in Christ. Putting faith anywhere else condemns a person to hell for eternity.

[Yohan]

The Pope is not Christ. He is just a man. And why do you hold his opinion so highly, if you hate Christianity so much and you believe he is Christian?

Well, I think the Pope in Rome still knows by far more about Christianity than you do, that's all.

About yourself, you sound more a Muslim than a Christian considering your replies.

To denounce somebody who is Roman Catholic as a non-Christian is really something new for me. This is clearly not what Christians, who are not Roman Catholics, are doing in general. I never noticed something like that while in Philippines.

Even the Iglesia ni Cristo or El Shaddai do not claim something like that.

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