Why are Jews hated so much? Why Antisemitism?

[globetrotter]

...because their nation (Israel) commits brazen acts of mass murder with virtual impunity.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday

No country -- and I mean NO country -- could have done what Israel just did (kill un-armed humanitarian aid workers) in full view and justify it as "self-defense."

Out-f***ing-rageous.

Once again I will point out that those who use this criticism only hold Israel to that standard but don't have the same level or degree of bias/hatred towards other nations that do exactly the same thing.

Such as:

China-->Tibet
USA-->Anywhere
Russia-->Georgia

Those three nations have done exactly the same yet you and others who have anti-Jooo bias do not hold them to the same standard.

[ladislav]

The hate against the Jews is mainly in Christian and Muslim countries, not in countries that practice other religions. It is basically hatred based on religious intolerance coupled with economics. Goes way back.

There is no hatred of Jews in China, Japan, Thailand, Cambodia, India etc. There, they hate other groups.

[Think Different]

"Jewish people account for just a tiny percentage of the US population and a much smaller percentage of the world as whole. But with the political power they wield, the wealth they control, the huge list of Nobel prizes under their belts, or their countless contributions to medicine, science, and entertainment, you would think they had a population as big as China."

What REALLY pisses me off about the persecution of the Jews (especially the Holocaust) is based on just those ratios (average joes:average intellectual Jews). When you consider how off-the-chart disproportionately the Jews have helped society with advances in medicine, science, etc., it makes me always wonder how many Einsteins were annihilated during the Holocaust and Stalinist purges. Could one of those Jews have been the one who could've found the cure for cancer or even the common cold?

I'm not Jewish, but they have a special place in my heart and I cannot tolerate racism towards them (especially), but towards anyone else, in general. I remember how angry I got in Russia, whenever I'd hear the Russians blame all their problems on the "blacks" (from Africa, I presume) or in Eastern Europe, where they hate the gypsies (Roma, Kalderash, Sinti, etc.) There, it's always rude similes, such as "dirty as gypsies", "black as gypsies".

[globetrotter]

Feminists claim that because Men hold many jobs of power that all Men are powerful and run the world.

Jooo-Haters claim that because Jews hold many jobs of power that all Jews are powerful and run the world.

If one argument is faulty (Men run the world) then so is the other.

This is my main point of disagreement on MRA fora wrt Jooo baiting. You encounter men who tacitly acknowledge that the Feminist argument that All Men are powerful is nonsense, and then in the next breath they use the precise same lack of logic to argue that Jooos run the world.

[patex_]

Did the Jews actually do anything wrong to deserve all that hatred? Do those who hate Jews have a justifiable or logical reason to hate them?

And since the Jews control the US media, why can't they take control of all media in the world and program the world to be pro Jew?

Winston:

Jewish control of the US media does happen to be one source of hatred towards Jews -- because whoever controls the media controls what's seen by the public, and much of what's seen today on TV or Hollywood is utter filth with no redeeming social or moral value whatsoever.

And yes, they are trying to "program the world to be pro Jew," as you put it -- which is why you won't find anything in the media that challenges or questions the nature of Jewish power in American society. It's also why we are reminded almost on a daily basis that the Holocaust was the worst crime in human history, and that the Jews were the only innocent victims who suffered during the Second World War.

In fact, the power of the Jews is such that questioning the number of Jewish deaths in the Holocaust is illegal in virtually the entire EU, and will earn you a prison sentence. So much for western "freedoms" and its "free thinking" environment.

Take a look at these videos -- they might shed some light on the nature of Jewish power not only in the media, but also in politics and finance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHKGOcUyQ-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVmiAR5nvJE

[patex_]

The LA Times article David Duke refers to is this:

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19 ... oe-stein19

[Adama]

"Jewish people account for just a tiny percentage of the US population and a much smaller percentage of the world as whole. But with the political power they wield, the wealth they control, the huge list of Nobel prizes under their belts, or their countless contributions to medicine, science, and entertainment, you would think they had a population as big as China."

What REALLY pisses me off about the persecution of the Jews (especially the Holocaust) is based on just those ratios (average joes:average intellectual Jews). When you consider how off-the-chart disproportionately the Jews have helped society with advances in medicine, science, etc., it makes me always wonder how many Einsteins were annihilated during the Holocaust and Stalinist purges. Could one of those Jews have been the one who could've found the cure for cancer or even the common cold?

I'm not Jewish, but they have a special place in my heart and I cannot tolerate racism towards them (especially), but towards anyone else, in general. I remember how angry I got in Russia, whenever I'd hear the Russians blame all their problems on the "blacks" (from Africa, I presume) or in Eastern Europe, where they hate the gypsies (Roma, Kalderash, Sinti, etc.) There, it's always rude similes, such as "dirty as gypsies", "black as gypsies".

Keep wondering. Somehow there were only 6 million Jews in western Europe. Somehow 6 million Jews left Western Europe when Hitler came to power, and SOMEHOW 6 million Jews died when there were hardly any left in Europe. So you got me. How many Einsteins? Would the world be better off? Could the other tribes of the world invent things the Jews couldnt? or can only Jews invent new science? That in itself is some kinda Chutzpah.

[Think Different]

5000 years of Jewish history has shown that they've always led in education, etc. Of course, there have always been bad apples amongst them, but by and large, they have disproportionately benefitted mankind, based on their population. Also, of course, ANYONE could be the next Einstein, and ANYONE could reach the achievements the Jews have, but we don't. THAT is the question I'd like to have answered. If everyone has the potential and wherewithal to achieve such things for mankind, then why don't we, in numbers proportionate to our population? I think it's the Jewish focus on education that we in the West have lost. In the US, it's more important to play basketball and be "cool" than to study. If you are too bookish, you are mercilessly ostracized at best, and bullied and abused at worst.

Of course, if one has a chip on their shoulder about Jews, there is nothing anyone can say to convince them otherwise, and there is no neutral common ground to stand on.

[Adama]

Feminists claim that because Men hold many jobs of power that all Men are powerful and run the world.

Jooo-Haters claim that because Jews hold many jobs of power that all Jews are powerful and run the world.

If one argument is faulty (Men run the world) then so is the other.

This is my main point of disagreement on MRA fora wrt Jooo baiting. You encounter men who tacitly acknowledge that the Feminist argument that All Men are powerful is nonsense, and then in the next breath they use the precise same lack of logic to argue that Jooos run the world.

There is no analogy between FEMINISTS and those who point the fingers at Jews.

First, as we all know, and as my favorite Jewish Financial Bankster Larry Summers would be the first to tell you, women arent inclined towards certain professions. There are more MEN in Congress and in leadership positions because risk taking is a male trait, while being risk averse is a female trait.

However, that is not to say that risk taking is a jewish trait. Being vastly outnumbered by 100 million Gentiles, you would think there would be an overwhelming amount of Gentiles in positions of power. Somehow they are pushed out and only jews ascend to those positions.

This is not my jealousy. I am pointing out that there is no valid analogy where you were trying to make it.

[Adama]

5000 years of Jewish history has shown that they've always led in education, etc. Of course, there have always been bad apples amongst them, but by and large, they have disproportionately benefitted mankind, based on their population. Also, of course, ANYONE could be the next Einstein, and ANYONE could reach the achievements the Jews have, but we don't. THAT is the question I'd like to have answered. If everyone has the potential and wherewithal to achieve such things for mankind, then why don't we, in numbers proportionate to our population? I think it's the Jewish focus on education that we in the West have lost. In the US, it's more important to play basketball and be "cool" than to study. If you are too bookish, you are mercilessly ostracized at best, and bullied and abused at worst.

Of course, if one has a chip on their shoulder about Jews, there is nothing anyone can say to convince them otherwise, and there is no neutral common ground to stand on.

Who do you think it is that runs the media that has empowered those who play sports and rap and play rock music? Is it the irish? The Italian gangsters? No. It is the jews. Who else.

I know you are Liberated, arent you? It is OK. I like some Jews.

In essence though, you are saying the Jewish people are superior. That is all it boils down to. So while you'd mock some kind of Aryan supremacy (which I am not in favor of), you'd gladly accept jewish supremacy.

how do you think the west god to bad? Who owns the media? Who are the leading feminists? ALL JEWS. Think about it. These Jewish people and their culture are to blame. They have infected America. It is really sad. And if you really hope to be happy in this life, you would do your best to make sure Judaism and American influence does not spread. Cause the spread of US and Jewish culture = death of Patriarchy and good life for men everywhere.

[fschmidt]

Also, of course, ANYONE could be the next Einstein, and ANYONE could reach the achievements the Jews have, but we don't. THAT is the question I'd like to have answered.

I'll answer. Almost all intellectual contributions from Jews came from Ashkenazi Jews after they decided to strictly enforce monogamy. And by monogamy, I don't mean the modern nonsense meaning. I mean that men may only take one wife and that they won't chase other men's wives. This guarantees every man a wife and allows men to focus on intellectual pursuits instead of wasting time chasing women. My parents are Hungarian Jews and they explained to me how things were in Hungary in the past. There was an upper class that spent time chasing women, and a lower class whose wives upper class men chased. Only the Jews were left alone and were safely monogamous, so Jews produced the vast majority of the intellectual output from Hungary. An even more productive culture than the Jews was the Ancient Athenians who were similarly monogamous. Monogamy (or close to it) is a necessary condition for intellectual output, and since monogamy is disappearing from our society, so will intellectual output.

[Adama]

Television programming such as Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best, and others which showed Christian families as loving, caring people led by the man of the house have been replaced by shows such as Fox's Married . . . with Children and the neo-feminist Who's the Boss? Such shows feature dysfunctional families led by women, with children who are disrespectful and disobedient. The role of the father has been relegated to the trash heap as something of the past, no longer needed for the 21st century. Instead of "Father Knows Best," now it's Father is a Complete and Utter Moron, with all thanks due to Jewish media moguls who write, direct, produce, star in and market these abominable productions.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/edomites.htm



As a matter of fact, MOST of what they do they get away with simply because the average Gentile cannot even imagine another person dreaming such things up, let alone accepting that a large group of people are actually conspiring to make these NIGHTMARES a reality. It truly is a shock to the conscience of anyone capable of feeling empathy for their fellow human beings. So most people just dismiss these FACTS without ever bothering to look into them, since it just doesn't seem possible to them. We just cannot imagine why people would do the things they have actually done, let alone to identify with any of it. Simply put: they DO the unimaginable.

[Adama]

Israel instigates the Russian-Georgian war with their greed for oil.

The Russians may just bear with the pro-US Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili’s ambition to bring his country into NATO. But they [The Russian Government] draw a heavy line against his plans and those of Western oil companies, including Israeli firms, to route the oil routes from Azerbaijan and the gas lines from Turkmenistan, which transit Georgia, through Turkey instead of hooking them up to Russian pipelines.

Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.

Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected.

Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.

These advisers were undoubtedly deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to conquer the South Ossetian capital Friday.

In recent weeks, Moscow has repeatedly demanded that Jerusalem halt its military assistance to Georgia, finally threatening a crisis in bilateral relations. Israel responded by saying that the only assistance rendered Tbilisi was “defensive.�

[UVU]

most jews are hated for the wrong reason. people who hate jews usually know nothing about jews. i personally do not like jews but i have my own reasons, and i actually know a lot of the stuff they do such as generate hatred and propaganda against china via tibet and other chanels such as the media. they are also doing very bad things to palestinian people. the entire country of israel is an insult to human rights against many different kinds of people.

[Adama]

most jews are hated for the wrong reason. people who hate jews usually know nothing about jews. i personally do not like jews but i have my own reasons, and i actually know a lot of the stuff they do such as generate hatred and propaganda against china via tibet and other chanels such as the media. they are also doing very bad things to palestinian people. the entire country of israel is an insult to human rights against many different kinds of people.

Yeah. Get raped in business dealings with Jews and get a taste of their ethics and values.