True forced joblessness

[MattHanson1990]

There was true forced loneliness starting in the 80s and 90s, and now we can add another way of life caused by this misandrist society: True Forced Joblessness (TFJ). For half a century, more and more women have been entering the workforce,more men have been ejected now than ever before...and guys from the younger generations have been robbed of their chances to get their lives started in their own country. Many men in America, especially millennials, have been forced into a life of joblessness nowadays. Whenever a guy loses his job, he goes on a dry spell of months or even years without jobs. What about for the "oppressed wimmiz"? Job offers fall into their laps VERY EASILY (same can be said about baby boomers not retiring as well as immigrants from Mexico and Central America). Sure, the economy has transitioned from having plenty of good jobs to plenty of bad jobs. But now it's transitioning to where there'll be no jobs for anyone, also thanks to outsourcing and automation. For the baby boomers and Gen X-ers, there's plenty of bad jobs. But starting with the millennials, there are no jobs. Best solution for those in True Forced Joblessness is to follow the unconventional route like teaching English in a foreign country, making money online, freelancing, or what not.

[Cornfed]

To be fair, joblessness is now hitting females these days, and in a much similar way to which it hit males in the past. It is totally unfair, and just one little thing can mean the difference between being able to walk into a job vs. being unemployable.

[gnosis]

Women were the last to go, but now the national economy can't even provide work for them. The same percentage of young women live with their parents today as did back in 1940.

We can thank the baby boomers for free trade, outsourcing, the H1B visa debacle, and massive illegal immigration. The extent of the damage is almost awe inspiring. What motivated boomer men to screw their children over so much?

Edit: I talked to my boomer Dad, and he says the recession is over and unemployment is 5%. Guess all the foregoing is wrong. Go out there and grab a job in that surging post-recession economy!

[tom]

Seeing the aftermath of a minor telecom bankruptcy of a couple days ago. Merry Christmas and your fired. The survivors, the employees that were snatch upped, all had essential tech skills. All the office admins when to the chopping block. Virtually no chick survivors.

The era of the 50's and 60's was an anomaly.
Post WWII inventory of competition to America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath_of_World_War_II
Japan cities leveled and nuked, Germany leveled and divided. China shit bombed out of it. Russia leveled. Eastern Europe occupied by Russia run by an intentionally destructive dictator. In fact much of Europe had the shit bombed out of it which included England. England was bankrupt. Forgot to mention the tens of millions dead which was mostly men. And we know who does most of the work. More oil than America knew what do with coming from the new Saudi oil fields, the Saudis still lived in tents and rode camels. The USA was the only game in town, If you wanted anything worth a shit it came from America in the 1950's. Until the destroyed and defeated rebuilt there was no competition.

[wanderlust]

When you hear the white shirts talking about "the economy" they're generally referring to a set of certain metrics, such as:

- inflation by a certain definition
- unemployment by a certain definition
- GDP as compared to previous performance
- balance of trade with other countries

These are just some examples. If the economy contracts 5% over a period of 6 months (this would be a big deal), then expands 2% over a period of 5 years, we're no longer formally in a recession, although the economy is smaller than before. Recession is contraction of economic activity, not workforce size. Hence, the claim that the last recession ended in 2009, while unemployment continued to grow, then remained high for years.

The "health of the economy" that they discuss is not directly tied to the economic status of the public. The assumption is that if business and trade expand, the workforce will get a chunk of that. Of course with increasing automation, it's easy to visualize conditions where business activity will increase but payrolls will go down, profits being centralized mostly within corporations rather than being paid out as wages and salaries.

What we can expect in the coming two decades is more immigrants and ordinary people fighting over a shrinking pool of unskilled and semi-skilled jobs. A handful of people are doing very well and will continue to do so, depending on what they know and who their connections are.

For now, there are still some places in the US where it's quite easy to get a job. My region, for example, has many openings.

[Ghost]

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[jamesbond]

We now have the lowest labor participation rate in America since 1978. The jobs that are being added to the economy are for the most part, low paying and temporary jobs.

I just heard on the news today that a prominent economist is predicating a recession in 2016. We still have not completely recovered from the recession.

[wanderlust]

What's your region, what kind of jobs, and how much do they pay?

In Fargo and Bismarck there are a mix of different jobs at different pay levels. Pay for unskilled labor has jumped over the past 7 years or so. Fast food jobs for example are up to $10 and hour, give or take. Labor construction jobs (cement, shingling, drywall, etc.) can get someone $16-25 hourly depending on experience and the company. Skilled trades like plumbing and electrical, think $25-28 an hour for a full journeyman. Health care is a big part of the local economy. RN's maybe $30 an hour. Various professional jobs are available, most types seem to have openings. New college grads easily get jobs. Overall, I would say about 20-25% more than what's typical for the country. Depends on the sector. The oil patch is in the western part of the state (opposite side) and doing POORLY. ND is industrial and agricultural. The state has something like 2.2% unemployment, lowest in the country. If you come, expect a sausage fest, worst ratio in the nation at 148:100 for the 20-34 age group. If you want a job here, just look at jobs.nd.gov or start contacting through Craigslist or look up the classifieds in a local newspaper and start calling.

Thinking about the current trends extending to 2030 and beyond...I just don't see how it can hold together. Things are so shit now, and have been since 2008, that things have felt apocalyptic for several years at this point.

Things are good economically here at the minute but as you say, that feeling has penetrated even to here. Can't vouch for how long the local economy will last. And despite people's wallets being full, that feeling still remains politically and culturally. Ordinary people are starting to talk about it. You can see the culture going downhill fast even here. People of the area historically considered it insulated from that.

[Adama]

This is why I think prostitution should be legal but that men should not use them. There are limited resources in life. Don't waste your money enriching prostitutes and making them millionaires. It isnt worth experiencing mediocre sex with a woman who isnt that hot any way, spending $100-300 for 10 to 60 minutes. It would take most of us a whole day to make the amount of money these women make in just a few minutes. So if people complain about women in the workforce yet these same men are willing to give women $100 for doing what women should do for their boyfriends and husbands for free, well that man needs to rethink his position.

[gnosis]

This is why I think prostitution should be legal but that men should not use them. There are limited resources in life. Don't waste your money enriching prostitutes and making them millionaires. It isnt worth experiencing mediocre sex with a woman who isnt that hot any way

Not on topic, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You understand that hookers are professionals, right? Some of them are really good at it.

Also, easily accessible prostitution removes a lot of pressure from normal girls to become sluts. (At least you recognize prostitution should be legal.) This means that more couples can form solid, lasting marriages. But you sound like the sort of self-righteous "Churchian" who worries more about the holiness of his dick than the social fabric of the society he lives in.

[tom]

A new economic class is replacing the old.
Some jobs have and a whole lot more will be made obsolete.


http://www.creativeclass.com/richard_florida

I also thought that the 1930's had tons of new innovations of every sort.
The 1950's saw a full enjoyment of this, the YouTube "Rocket 88" from 1950 is considered the first rock and roll song.

This is why I think prostitution should be legal but that men should not use them. There are limited resources in life. Don't waste your money enriching prostitutes and making them millionaires. It isnt worth experiencing mediocre sex with a woman who isnt that hot any way, spending $100-300 for 10 to 60 minutes. It would take most of us a whole day to make the amount of money these women make in just a few minutes. So if people complain about women in the workforce yet these same men are willing to give women $100 for doing what women should do for their boyfriends and husbands for free, well that man needs to rethink his position.

Why you want to stay away from strippers as girlfriend or wife material. The real danger in becoming a stripper is not the guys, there is virtually zero risk from guys (the problem with guys is they are too giving which fully enables a self destructive lifestyle). Its the lifestyle learned from the other women. And excessive money in the hands of a teenager, more than a doctor would make after a decade of very hard study and much debt.
Strippers are enormously destructive narcissistic people who destroy everyone around them. All they know how to do is exploit by lying and stealing from socially desperate men and women if they cannot get enough from the latter. They have zero loyalty, an extreme sense of entitlement and no job skills of any kind. No financial discipline, no homemaking skills, literally all they know how to do is lie, cheat and steal. Strippers are in my opinion worst than full on prostitutes. Strippers are not victims, they are not trafficked. Don't fall for the women are trafficked scam.

Cirsty form the show Intervention - She is not unusual, I personally have seen several girls just like this.