An interesting Filipina

[OutWest]

On Friday night my sister-in-law brought home with her two friends. I've known these girls for a while, they are pretty, clever and fun to be with. One of them studies political science and, after graduating next year, wants to pursue law. That night after the others, tired of a long day of hanging out at a resort, went to sleep, me and this girl ended up talking... I had brought a box of nice cigars from abroad, which she was into. This surprised me, you don't often encounter a girl who likes cigars. Anyway, we smoked a Cuban together. Talked about world-politics. Duterte, foreign policy, Chinese expansion, economics... at no point did things get sexy or spicy, they could not possibly have as my wife was sleeping in the other room with our daughter. But what amazed me was that it was the type of conversation I would have with my male friends, and here I was having it with a girl I hardly met more then five times.

This is something to keep in mind for those who say the best you can do in the Philippines is "a simple girl". Winston and others have often claimed that Filipinas are "low-quality", that they have no dept. If there's one thing I have learned, it's that that's complete bullshit. My wife is interesting, complex, full of big dreams. Her sister studies engineering, has an amazing taste in movies and keeps up-to-date with daily events. Their friends are intelligent, pretty and bright young women. Even the ones I would describe as less bright, are at the very least funny, bubbly, pretty. No punishment to be around... there's a lot of college and university educated Filipinas who would stimulate you in more then one way... who would interest you even after your physical needs were met, meeting also your desire for companionship, friendship, communication on a deeper level.

The same girls were visiting us when members of a local cult, Iglesia ni Cristo, came to our house to convert us under the guise of a "bible study group". Needless to say, being good Catholics and having read the Bible, they completely destroyed the cultists in argument. Every question came with a counter-question, and the INC pastor would go "Eh... uhm... I need to look that up! I will get back at you". For my convenience they discussed in English, which they are all fluent in. The pastor left with his tail between his legs. Promised to be back next weekend, but never did lol. We still laugh about it from time to time, it was amazing.

Anyway, long story short: there are intelligent, interesting, cute Filipinas out there who would stimulate you intellectually as much if not more then they would physically. I am presented with evidence of their existence daily. Even in a small shithole of a town in the middle of nowhere. So to all the posters who claim otherwise... who would claim such a Filipina is a myth, or off-limits... I wonder: where the f**k do you hang out at?

O think you know where they hang out...explains most of it...

[Johnny1975]

I want to believe it. But I would need more evidence.

[Ghost]

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[Johnny1975]

A girl smoking a cigar is very unsexy.

I want to believe it. But I would need more evidence.

These better, smarter pinays are out there. But it's rare. It's rare enough that it warranted making a thread about. Just one.

Anyway, finding such a girl is easier when you go native like Marcos. It's useless for most of us.

If I went there, I think I'd do well because I'd learn more tagalog and more about the history and culture (all of which I've already learned about). It wouldn't make sense not to. I wish we could hear from more people who have spent the time and put in the effort, because I'm sure it opens a lot of doors. Hearing about notch counts gets boring really fast. There must be bazillions of very decent women (and perhaps at least reasonably intelligent) in all these countries, but mostly we hear about the whores and sluts. It's a shame. But then again I guess it's good that they remain undetected by the riff raff. It's best that they live in separate worlds.

[cdnFA]

You can find greatness is any population.

However they seem to be few and more importantly those type of girls would never usually been seen with a foreigner and double plus so one who is twice their age which is the selling point used most for the Philippines. I am sure there are exceptions to that rule also.

[davewe]

The problem is we all define intelligent in different ways. Many guys define intelligent as "she's interested in what I'm interested in" or "she agrees with my opinions/tastes."

Marcos - and I think he knows I respect him - was impressed that the girl was interested in cigars and shared a Cuban with him. For me that's not a plus, but again that's based on interest and taste, not intelligence.

My wife is educated and smart as hell. But I am decades older than her and from a different culture. Do we discuss bebop jazz, Coltrane and Wes Montgomery - of course not. Does she read Graham Greene - umm, not quite. And equally, do I know much about modern music (or care about it) - nope. Somehow we find plenty to do and talk about.

Quick story: I have an acquaintance with a very hot Pinay wife - married a few years. She's bright and college educated. A genius? No, but no idiot. And did I mention she's hot as can be?

The guy complains because his wife cannot use their garage door opener. I threw out the possibility that where she is from not only are there no electric garage door openers, there aren't any garages. He ignored that. He went one step further. He's turned off by his wife because she doesn't understand modern America, as exemplified by her garage door opener ignorance. I look across the room at his uber, weak in the knees, hot wife, then look back at the guy. "Well someone's an idiot, but I'm not sure it's your wife."

In short I have not found Filipinas to be stupid or lack intelligence at all. But if you are expecting them to be knowledgeable in the kind of things we are interested in in the West - that's a different story.

[Lorenzo]

We dig at Filipinas because Phils is the doormat of Asia, and many people there sell themselves out for next to nothing. Many of the Filipinas online have nothing to offer but their vagina and they will give it to any man with a pulse and fat wallet. Then there are the exceptions, and they do exist.

The problem I've noticed is that the experiences reported at this forum are often from men picking what they can easy sack, which are generally are the lowest grade available. Many women in Phils are educated but these are indeed harder to get because they are smart enough to understand their value and not sell themselves like a sex slave to grandpa. Sorry if this offends but it is the plain truth. And I don't condemn these guys, we all need p***y without the baggage.

I had a serious communications going with a single virgin 28 yr old Filipina. She was a doctor, a pediatrician and owned multiple clinics. Wealthy. She was smart as a whip, often hard to keep up with, witty, played guitar and could speak on any topic. But a career girl and intellect is not necessarily the best wife so I dropped her. I'll take the dumber one who waits at the front door to get her knees dirty when I return home

[Ghost]

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[The_Adventurer]

The guy complains because his wife cannot use their garage door opener. I threw out the possibility that where she is from not only are there no electric garage door openers, there aren't any garages. He ignored that. He went one step further. He's turned off by his wife because she doesn't understand modern America, as exemplified by her garage door opener ignorance. I look across the room at his uber, weak in the knees, hot wife, then look back at the guy. "Well someone's an idiot, but I'm not sure it's your wife."

In short I have not found Filipinas to be stupid or lack intelligence at all. But if you are expecting them to be knowledgeable in the kind of things we are interested in in the West - that's a different story.

Most don't consider that it works both ways.

My wife often complains that I lack common sense about normal life because I don't understand how to do some of the "backwards country shite" they do here. I often explain to here that we've had machines to do this since I was a kid. Where I come from, you don't see where the water comes from. You don't see, or need to know, where the gas comes from. You don't need to mess with the water heater, and watch a bunch of little numbers and know what they mean. (not to mention stuff is written in my own language) Stuff just works. Things rarely "just work" in China.

On the other hand, as an adult, she's always lived and worked in modern cities and complains about country people not adapting to that, just like the guy above. Some people are just going to complain about "different" no matter what the case.

There's many roads to Rome.

Most filled with bandits.

[gnosis]

There's many roads to Rome.

Most filled with bandits.

This comment made me laugh.

[davewe]

The guy complains because his wife cannot use their garage door opener. I threw out the possibility that where she is from not only are there no electric garage door openers, there aren't any garages. He ignored that. He went one step further. He's turned off by his wife because she doesn't understand modern America, as exemplified by her garage door opener ignorance. I look across the room at his uber, weak in the knees, hot wife, then look back at the guy. "Well someone's an idiot, but I'm not sure it's your wife."

In short I have not found Filipinas to be stupid or lack intelligence at all. But if you are expecting them to be knowledgeable in the kind of things we are interested in in the West - that's a different story.

Most don't consider that it works both ways.

My wife often complains that I lack common sense about normal life because I don't understand how to do some of the "backwards country shite" they do here. I often explain to here that we've had machines to do this since I was a kid. Where I come from, you don't see where the water comes from. You don't see, or need to know, where the gas comes from. You don't need to mess with the water heater, and watch a bunch of little numbers and know what they mean. (not to mention stuff is written in my own language) Stuff just works. Things rarely "just work" in China.

On the other hand, as an adult, she's always lived and worked in modern cities and complains about country people not adapting to that, just like the guy above. Some people are just going to complain about "different" no matter what the case.

Exactly. Now that my wife's had a few years in the US she has no problem defining people she meets, customers in the store she works in, and some of the kanos married to Pinays we know, as idiots Their actions and thought processes are different from her's and therefore they are wrong and stupid; and in many cases she is right. Things that we take for granted in the West as the right way to think or the right way to do things aren't that logical. She is particularly tough on co-workers and sees many Americans as lazy and stupid.

I get a kick out of it because while she is often right I know that many of the guys say the same things about Filipinas. That's why I believe it comes down to familiarity. She knows how to clean clothes and dishes by hand; I know how to load the machines.

So again, IMO guys going abroad and thinking the local people are stupid because they do things differently, think differently or are interested in different things are missing the whole point of being happier abroad.