Slow Death Through Loneliness

[Eric]

Gee. That's funny because see, it was just me expressing a passing feeling I have/had, nothing serious. didn't know it would get your panties in such a ruffle. You have issues maybe. Projection much?

I will no longer talk to you.
Viruses like you are why it's hard for guys to share real feelings they have in forums with other real, honest men. Congrats, you are a toxic P.O.S. virus- parasite.

Now go walk into traffic. Or jump off a high building.

[yick]

Viruses like you are why it's hard for guys to share real feelings they have in forums with other real, honest men. Congrats, you are a toxic P.O.S. virus- parasite.

Real men say 'waaaaaaaaaaaaah I am not getting sex, that's not fair'

Now look, and this goes for Ghost, for MattHanson1990 and everyone like yourselves - feeling sorry for your damn selves because you weren't the High School quarterback and you didn't get to f**k the head cheerleader on prom night.

Lots of men in this world die virgins - millions of men in China and in India have no chance of having sex in a loving relationship - even that, they can't afford P4P - they will die never ever seeing a naked woman. And a fair few men in the west die as virgins as well, never knowing a womans love.

So - what needs to be took from this is that you have no right to sex, you have no entitlement to having a woman drop their drawers for you.

A lot of men cannot escape the west, they live and die in their hometowns, they never get married, they never have a decent relationship - they die unfulfilled.

You have escaped the west, you are now in a country where the women do not treat men - or you - as potential rapist like they do back home, no they don't.

In China, women are happy to be normal with a man, because it is not instilled into them that every man they don't know is a potential rapist.

So, instead of running with this fantastic opportunity - you are crying about it like you are owed something, you are owed NOTHING - but you have the golden
chance to get a woman that you would be proud of to have dangling from your arm, there are millions of really pretty women in this country, what is your problem?

And if this place isn't right - go to Thailand, go to Philippines, go to Vietnam, go to Indonesia - there are f***ing hundreds of millions of women to choose from.

You have done the hard part, you are off the trailer park, you are here, now stop f***ing crying and do something. If China isn't working then go to Indonesia, I swear
down you will get a woman there and you will have ALL the sex you want.

[Ghost]

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[droid]

You have escaped the west,

Some guys are having trouble actually escaping the West, even though they took an airplane. They have trouble letting go of the baggage.
@Eric, stop with the anger, the lashing out, the micro-analyzing, relax, stop reading the sluthate stuff and all other western habits; you're in a new place, time to change your routine. It's understandable that there is a "detox" period, but you have to have some minimum will.

you are now in a country where the women do not treat men - or you - as potential rapist like they do back home, no they don't.
In China, women are happy to be normal with a man, because it is not instilled into them that every man they don't know is a potential rapist.
So, instead of running with this fantastic opportunity - you are crying about it

I disagree with the overall tone of the posts but ^^This

[Ghost]

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[cdnFA]

There's no contradiction. I have gotten a LOT of ATTENTION from Chinese girls. (Hellos, smiles, acknowledgements, exchanging of WeChats, etc.) That is different from ROMANTIC INTEREST, of which I have seen VERY LITTLE (and even then it wasn't terribly clear.)

But this is Happier Abroad. Every time a woman even so much as looks at you it is because she is checking out your ass and wants to f**k you. It would have absolutely nothing to do with your circus monkey status as a white guy is an ocean of orientals. No that would be unpossible.

It's funny but you IIRC are the first person on HA who seemed to figure that out. Outside of the HA hive mind many expats seem to get it.

I was also thinking of posting on cultural differences. Maybe I see it differently than you but it is a thing that isn't addressed often here.

[droid]

I live in China, apart from playing the foreigner card. I don't really like it here. The people are materialistic as hell, basically the same as Americans but even worse - if you can believe it. They are also incredibly, incredibly rude here. Chinese culture is very callous, rude .....uncaring, there are so many damn people no one cares.

I have lived here five years, my first two years were hard, but I learned was that the Chinese aren't rude - they have a different set of polite ettiquette - it isn't the west, if you are expecting them to behave politely like westerners, no - you are going to be disappointed, but once you fathom them out, they are a pretty decent bunch of people who will go out of their way to be helpful and nice - there are more arseholes back home than in China but it isn't west.

There is rudeness but it's a lot different, i guess it rubes some guys the wrong way because they have some fixed expectations.
For example, people here might pick their nose or try to cut you in a line, but i really don't sense big maliciousness about it. After they cut your line they will smile at you lol, it seems to me this kind of thing is just a practicality convention to get things moving along. It doesn't really affect me, it actually cracks me up, I prefer this kind of stuff to the hypocritical "properness" in the west, where true douchebaggery really surfaces should something fall out of place.

Another example here is how everyone honks at you from cars and other bikes, but no one is trying to put you down or pick a fight, it's just a warning, and there's no hard feelings at all, even when people actually collide lol. I'd much rather have this than the douchebag big-truck tail-gater in the states, or seeing people totally lose their composure should their god-car-idol get a scratch.

[droid]

There's no contradiction. I have gotten a LOT of ATTENTION from Chinese girls. (Hellos, smiles, acknowledgements, exchanging of WeChats, etc.) That is different from ROMANTIC INTEREST, of which I have seen VERY LITTLE (and even then it wasn't terribly clear.)

But this is Happier Abroad. Every time a woman even so much as looks at you it is because she is checking out your a** and wants to f**k you. It would have absolutely nothing to do with your circus monkey status as a white guy is an ocean of orientals. No that would be unpossible.
It's funny but you IIRC are the first person on HA who seemed to figure that out. Outside of the HA hive mind many expats seem to get it.
I was also thinking of posting on cultural differences. Maybe I see it differently than you but it is a thing that isn't addressed often here.

Have you been out of your township?

[Ghost]

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[gnosis]

Wherever you go, you take a lot of your problems with you. There is no magical country where everything is fantastic and beautiful maidens dance naked in the streets before offering themselves to you by the dozens. For what it's worth, I've spent years in Asia, and I didn't personally know any white or Indian foreigner who wanted a girlfriend and couldn't get one. In any foreign country, you have to make an effort to understand the local culture and the perspective the locals look at life from.

[cdnFA]

Have you been out of your township?

Yes, I've lived in 3 places that at one time were in different countries, and among 2 languages.

Also the people I get information from actually live overseas often for many years as do the people who comment on their comments.

An individual's observation doesn't mean shit. One can easily get one woman who spent a lot of time in Japan saying that sexism is a serious issue and another who says it isn't a problem at all. This is why my opinion which is based on more of a meta study, a collection of many views of those who were there, it is more value than a "I was there and I know everything" attitude.

Hell one can just look on HA. The f***ed up views some people have of their own countries is staggering and completely at odds with reality.

But yeah I get it, the views of those who have lived overseas even long than you don't matter, only yours matter.


Let me ask you this, why should I take the view of you and a few others over that of many other non HAers who have the same experiences as you do.

Considering this is a forum where/of
All girls date thugs with AK 47s
To get married will lead to your wife cheating on you this a black guy who will eventually rape you in prison, "this is marriage"
All marriage ends in divorce because "I've seen it" even though the stats don't bear that out.
Women only marry bad boys [err no]
To open a door for a woman is to guarantee scorn and abuse [never happened to me, never seen it happen although I am sure it does once in a blue moon]
Flat Earthers
Space Jews
White people going to Venus next.
The unibomber as a credible source.
Hitler was just a nice man picked on by that bad man Churchill.

Over and over people who have lived in Japan and China point out that they have a curiosity factor which is perfectly reasonable. If a Chinese person would walk around Pickle Lake or Hants Harbour they would get eyeballed pretty hard also. Duh.

Just because someone is looking at the oddball doesn't mean they want to f**k you. If I see some guy who towers over me I'm 6'2, I will look at him. I don't want to f**k him.

Just because some girls are giggling at the stupid foreigner who is getting soaked because he doesn't have an umbrella and lend him one of theirs doesn't mean they want to f**k you.

Also plenty of girls in the public service industry are nice to me. Actually pretty much all of them. That story above about the girl who runs a store with husband and father... if that is amazing to you, there is something wrong with you. I get treated with respect even though I am a big fat socially crippled slob when I conduct my business.

I take my opinions from many sources, as much as possible. Anything I get from HA, I take with a huge degree of scepticism.

[droid]

Have you been out of your township?

Yes, I've lived in 3 places that at one time were in different countries, and among 2 languages.

Please clarify that

Also the people I get information from actually live overseas often for many years as do the people who comment on their comments.

An individual's observation doesn't mean shit. One can easily get one woman who spent a lot of time in Japan saying that sexism is a serious issue and another who says it isn't a problem at all. This is why my opinion which is based on more of a meta study, a collection of many views of those who were there, it is more value than a "I was there and I know everything" attitude.

Hell one can just look on HA. The f***ed up views some people have of their own countries is staggering and completely at odds with reality.

But yeah I get it, the views of those who have lived overseas even long than you don't matter, only yours matter.


Let me ask you this, why should I take the view of you and a few others over that of many other non HAers who have the same experiences as you do.

Considering this is a forum where/of
All girls date thugs with AK 47s
To get married will lead to your wife cheating on you this a black guy who will eventually rape you in prison, "this is marriage"
All marriage ends in divorce because "I've seen it" even though the stats don't bear that out.
Women only marry bad boys [err no]
To open a door for a woman is to guarantee scorn and abuse [never happened to me, never seen it happen although I am sure it does once in a blue moon]
Flat Earthers
Space Jews
White people going to Venus next.
The unibomber as a credible source.
Hitler was just a nice man picked on by that bad man Churchill.

Over and over people who have lived in Japan and China point out that they have a curiosity factor which is perfectly reasonable. If a Chinese person would walk around Pickle Lake or Hants Harbour they would get eyeballed pretty hard also. Duh.

Just because someone is looking at the oddball doesn't mean they want to f**k you. If I see some guy who towers over me I'm 6'2, I will look at him. I don't want to f**k him.

Just because some girls are giggling at the stupid foreigner who is getting soaked because he doesn't have an umbrella and lend him one of theirs doesn't mean they want to f**k you.

Also plenty of girls in the public service industry are nice to me. Actually pretty much all of them. That story above about the girl who runs a store with husband and father... if that is amazing to you, there is something wrong with you. I get treated with respect even though I am a big fat socially crippled slob when I conduct my business.

I take my opinions from many sources, as much as possible. Anything I get from HA, I take with a huge degree of scepticism.

The simple flaw with that is assuming those who are reporting from abroad don't have other sources as you do.
I only asked because the impression you give is that of a basement dweller that -precisely- tries to build this know-it-all stance with third hand information at best, if not just from that basement computer.

As far as the women attention part, it is obvious this whole thing is not just about getting your d*ck wet, don't be dishonest. Read Winston's introductory material.

I don't know why you're here if things are so dandy for you. I agree some guys go overboard with their paranoid mindset but doing HA hate just for sport doesn't do your fake balanced-view any favors either, it puts you right in the same wild raving category.

[Ghost]

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[Ghost]

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[MattHanson1990]

Had a good English/Chinese language exchange today. Got some good notes and a little practice in. So...f**k all you guys who said I'm too lazy? It's looking good for this becoming a weekly thing too. The girl really likes giving and receiving lessons, so should be set. I ended hanging out with two girls. Both have boyfriends, which reminds me: that's another problem with going for Chinese women. They are usually taken. They get a man and they tend to stay. Good for Chinese men. Not good for a laowai, but fortunately I've no need to deal with that disadvantageous meat market. I had a little fun and dropped the girlfriend bomb on both the girls since they dropped the boyfriend bomb on me. It seemed to shock them a little bit.

Got some part time teaching gigs coming up, while waiting on my visa situation to be smoothed out and the day job to begin. Things are looking up, if only a little.

The girl, G, and I are continuing. We're getting through our problems. With some planning and timing and patience, I'll be able to see her in under three months. Everything until then is trying to make it to the starting line. It all hangs by a thread, but maybe the thread is growing stronger.

It's funny that you guys have been giving me a hard time about learning Chinese, despite that 1. I'm in a long distance relationship with a pinay, and 2. I don't have much interest or connection with Chinese women. And at the same time you guys haven't given me shit for breaking my standard of requiring virginity in a wife. True, I haven't gotten to that point yet, but it is looking that way.

If I haven't emphasized it enough already, connection really matters. It's so rare that I'm probably going to break my rule about virginity. And to hammer it home even more, I don't have any sexual attraction towards my girlfriend. She's attractive, very pretty, but I've never had sexual thoughts about her. The connection is the attraction. It's odd. Geez, I'm going to become the next S-parc if I'm not careful.

Sounds like certain pocket areas of Mexico. In Guadalajara there are a lot of good looking girls but they're usually taken, especially if you take into account that Tapatio men are also good looking. That's why I liked Guanajuato more. I don't know if this is 100 percent true but I think China could be a lot more of a hardball game compared to Mexico. In Mexico, machista culture is still strong, and many local men tend to mistreat the women. Chinese men tend to be more monogamous. But I'm not really 100 percent sure.