What are young men supposed to do?

[MrMan]

Johnny Law wrote,

Captain Obvious says: The Whites are leaving SA and other countries because it sucks their home countries.

Maybe you were a kid when the 'Captain Obvious' commercials were on. I wasn't. I always thought they were just not funny. It's not funny or cool as an allusion in posts now, IMO. I'm just sayin'.

[Kradmelder]

I see zero incentives for men to pursue "good" careers, other than the means to pay off the debt they incurred while earning their degree. A guy working at the right pizza parlor will have more sexual partners and a better social life than a guy with a "good" career. I'm seriously considering applying at the pizza place down the street just because it will give me social status and a place in the community. I could buy the place if I wanted to, but if I cant get a part-time job making pizzas it will lead to p***y I would never get as a random citizen.

I know a guy who has an engineering degree who works as a bartender, and has zero interest in being an engineer because it incurs no respect in today's society. I doubt he has thought it through as much, but he knows a good career means celibacy.

So, for you is the primary objective in life is to rack up the highest number of sexual partners? As you get older, your testosterone decreases, and when you are an old men, what good will memories of past sexual partners do you? Your old sex partners probably aren't going to take care of you when you are old.

There still are women out there looking for husbands, and it helps to have a stable career. Engineering can be a decent, stable career. Starting salaries are good.

Engineering is good salary. BUT it requires hard work to get there. Far easier to tell yourself and everyone else that you took some green or red or blue or purple pill or some other such idiocy so don't want to do anything to fit the agenda of 'the jew', women, society, little green aliens, baby boomers who have retired by now or whatever.

Ja, thugs are getting laid and educated people are not. Which is kak as about all educated people i know have kids. So I won't get educated or skilled and can't be a thug, so I will be very clever and just complain about whatever doesn't fit into entitlement. That sums up the 'man'osphere. Although man doesn't fit most of them.

People will do what they do. Jews will swindle and commit usury. Baby boomers and all their 1960s sex drugs and rock and roll bs is the basis of modern liberal BS. So what? I don't subscribe to either nor do I have to. But it is not an excuse for me to sit on my arse and whine either and just try point the finger of blame. What will come out of that? A white man just find a way to survive in the current environment. Many whites are successful despite all this. Because they get up and do, not sit around and whine.

[Kradmelder]

While I agree with Cornfed that there is a scarcity of good jobs for decent men, I would also add that there is a scarcity of good men for decent jobs. In other words, everything in modern culture is rotten.

To make this concrete, here is the result of me advertising for a programmer:

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I was met mostly with indifference or ridicule. May the modern working class starve to death.

I find that as well. It is hard to fill posts yet many young whites complain they can't get work. Yet they have no skills nor are interested in getting any. These days the onus is on you to train them. Spoonfeeding now extends far beyond childhood

[Cornfed]

These days the onus is on you to train them. Spoonfeeding now extends far beyond childhood

Well Heaven forfend. Did you just magically emerge from the womb fully trained?

[Kradmelder]

These days the onus is on you to train them. Spoonfeeding now extends far beyond childhood

Well Heaven forfend. Did you just magically emerge from the womb fully trained?

No I got off my arse and went and got trained. Not sit around and whine I can't get work

[Cornfed]

These days the onus is on you to train them. Spoonfeeding now extends far beyond childhood

Well Heaven forfend. Did you just magically emerge from the womb fully trained?

No I got off my arse and went and got trained. Not sit around and whine I can't get work

So who trained you? Surely there must have been a system. What if there isn't one now? Wouldn't that be bad?

[MrMan]

Cornfed,

I am picking up on a sense of entitlement, that 'the system' owes you some kind of chance or some kind of training. Gen X and Gen Y and millenials got help from the government for their education if they want(ed) it. The people who lived in the Great Depression and WWII eras did not all have all these opportunities. In the 1950's, there was an economic boom after Europes factories had been bombed and those countries paying back the Marshall Plan lows made US goods cheap. So the 50's was a great time to work in factories. But those who got decent factory jobs had to work hard at it to earn a decent living.

There is a system, just about all the student loans you want to go to college or take vocational training. That's the way the US works. If you had some legal issue, like a drug conviction, or if you already maxed out your loans and got a degree, you might not be able to qualify. But most Americans (USonians) have access to these loans. That's the system now. If you dropped out of high school, there are also community programs to get a GED.

What is your educational background? If you don't have a degree, you can get one or get some vocational training. Didn't you teach English overseas? You could stay overseas doing that. It pays enough to get by, and maybe even enough to get married overseas, especially if you are willing to raise your children going to school in the local language.

You can also use student loans to go back to grad school.

The trick with education is to study or be trained in a field that pays well. Some of those require some math and a lot of hard study. You can also choose the cheapest decent university available to you. That may mean the best state university you can get into.

You can even use student loans to go to school to be a truck mechanic or to learn heating and air conditioning.

Or you could take a course to be a real estate agent or appraisal. There are courses you can take to get licensed to sell insurance and securities.

Find what you are able to do with your skills and talents and then work hard to acheive our goal.

More formal education is not the only route to earning a decent living. You could start your own small business if you have some marketable skill. It could be simple like polishing headlights or cutting grass, or something more complicated.

[Nomad]

I actually believe cornfed when when he talks about white people not having a chance. I was born poor and went to a all black school. All I ever heard of was entitlements for minorities since their minorities, but no hand-outs for old poor whitey here.

I mean, why are we giving people money based on their skin color and gender, rather than on if they are American or not?

However, inspite of all the obstacles and no one investing in me or my future. I met a man named Jim Rohn. He's dead now, but through his mentorship and out-look on life, he taught me one of the most valuable lessons of life.

That life is in your hands.

And what you get out of life, is the results of the choices you make. You may not have the golden opportunities of the 1950's, but you do have the opportunities of today. Now i'm a programmer, and making decent coin, compared to my low level jobs before. And guess what? I was completely self-taught. I chose to go and buy the books, put in the time and effort. No one was holding me back, except me.

Its true, there IS obstacles for white people, perhaps more than ever before, but that doesn't mean we call it quits and throw in the towel. That is no way to live life. You make different choices, you do different things, and as a result, your life changes to what you want.

As Jim Rohn use to say, If you want things to change for you, you have to change.