Happier Abroad is DEAD. My horrible Kyiv dating experience and how I was almost killed.

[Cornfed]

But maybe they want at least the potential for you to be violent.

You don't hook up with a violent girl and be violent. You simply leave her alone.

Stupid segue. Do they teach you that somewhere?

[Light]

Which city was she from? Can you post a link to her profile? (Since you said you will not be returning to Ukraine anymore.)

I don't have her profile as I'm off the site now for 6 months, she was from Zaporozhye. I have another Polish 19 year old girl coming to visit me in about 3 weeks.

What site did you use to meet Ukrainian girls?

[eurobrat]

Which city was she from? Can you post a link to her profile? (Since you said you will not be returning to Ukraine anymore.)

I don't have her profile as I'm off the site now for 6 months, she was from Zaporozhye. I have another Polish 19 year old girl coming to visit me in about 3 weeks.

The cab driver is full of shit, Ukranian girls are heavily into power in a relationship. The girl I was with even stated that a woman should lead the relationship and not a man.

[Cornfed]

The girl I was with even stated that a woman should lead the relationship and not a man.

That is when you should have turned around, grabbed your bags and walked out the door.

[publicduende]

The girl I was with even stated that a woman should lead the relationship and not a man.

That is when you should have turned around, grabbed your bags and walked out the door.

Agree with CF for once. Not quite the kind of chick worth travelling to Kyiv for.

[Winston]

What site did you use to meet Ukrainian girls?

He used my cobrand dating site. Lots of hot girls there. And they are social and friendly and write back to you. Check it out.

http://dating.happierabroad.com

[eurobrat]

@eurobrat come on now. You can't base a whole judgment about HA or global dating just based on ONE bad experience. Come on. You should know better than that. You gotta look at the big picture. You are acting too melodramatic, like a drama queen.

I've met hundreds of FSU girls and none of them ever threatened me like that, and none of them ever hit me before either (except for maybe Katya). What did you do to piss her off? Did you pressure her to have sex before she was ready? If so that does piss off some girls and makes them feel violated.

Oh please @Winston weren't you scammed by a few different girls in Russia? I think you were even threatened a few times too! I haven't seen one guy on here prove they have (or had) a really successful relationship with these girls. Yes they look good in photo's but beyond that there's nothing but DARKNESS.

She's the one who insisted we have sex and even asked me "you have condom" after warming her up with a kiss on the neck a few times, then she felt my **** and asked me for a condom. I think 6 months of talking on WhatsApp and your dating site is enough time to get to know me, she claimed differently and that "it didn't count"

Besides, didn't you have a good experience last year with a Russian girl you met at the airport, who gave you sex and stimulating conversation, even though you were a stranger she met at the airport? And she even did it with you at her home, while her mom was around too? So how can you write off Russian girls when you've had luck like that, which I never had? You should be feeling blessed and lucky.

The solution is definitely not to go back to the US. If you go back to the US, you will regret it and wish you were back in Europe. At least in Ukraine the girls acknowledge your existence and treat you like you're in the game. In the US, the girls will ignore you as a stranger and you will feel like you're not even in the game. Nothing is worse than feeling ignored like you don't exist, as though you were a ghost, while you are surrounded by hot girls everywhere but you can't do anything about it.

Ok yes I slept with a few very good looking Russian/Ukrainian girls (I'll never forget that erotic airport encounter with Natasha), I still don't think I'm compatible with them in a relationship. They aren't the kind of women these guys on here think they are (HA paints them as little goddesses) They're very rough, demanding, heavy princess attitude and that life owes them, they're not humble and they won't make good partners. They're not submissive at all and my Sicilian half likes to tell women what to do. Hell I think American women are better partners than Russian/Ukrainian women.

This is where I think you and Mark are wrong, guys should stop looking for love in those countries because those women are incapable of providing it. The girl I was with even told me: "We Ukrainian women have a black soul" I think guys would be better off just trying to find a wife in one of the rural parts of the USA rather than all this craziness of learning Russian, flying all the way to the Ukraine and wasting $5,000 for Mark and company to hold their hands and introduce these guys to a few sub-par Ukrainian women when there's much sweeter and nicer girls in the USA.

Perhaps you miss America and are homesick. If so, then go visit your family there. But ultimately you will miss Europe.

Perhaps you are emotional and upset now, and wrote the above out of a temper tantrum, but once you calm down, you will realize that I was right.

I miss other things in the USA besides family:

1) It's easier to make a lot of money there
2) Taxes are lower and you keep more money for disposable income
3) Housing standards are better and you can have a pool (no roommates)
4) Food options are more better, there's more of variety (really miss Mexican)
5) I miss the women there, yea you heard me right I MISS AMERICAN WOMEN

American girls are much better in the sack and I never had any problems getting laid in the USA. I had problems finding a deep relationship but hey, I have that problem here too.

I've been outside the USA for 7 years now and travelled to over 25 different countries, I have a good sample of what life is like all over and the USA still offers a great lifestyle.

Why don't you try Latvia and Lithuania? The girls there are sweet and feminine and giggle and are approachable. They are not mean spirited or violent or overtly greedy. Or try Romania again since you said it was friendly and approachable and English speaking.

Also, even if Ukraine isn't right for you, there are so many other areas, like Latin America, Mexico, Southeast Asia, Former Soviet Republics, Eastern Russia, etc. The world still has 200 countries which is more than enough and more than you can ever see. Think about it.

Which country do you recommend then, oh great leader? I'm pretty sick of Ireland and really craving moving to Texas (oh that BBQ and those sweet Texan women). I miss America and American women, life's just less chaotic and easier. Europe is over-crowded, over-taxed, overtly-liberal, overtly-nationalistic.

Btw your poll option should include "Stay in Europe and try other girls in Eastern Europe or Southern Europe."

I have added the option but it reset the poll! can you manually add back in the votes or at least tell all the guys to cast their vote again.

-Eurobrat

[eurobrat]

What site did you use to meet Ukrainian girls?

He used my cobrand dating site. Lots of hot girls there. And they are social and friendly and write back to you. Check it out.

http://dating.happierabroad.com

Use at your own risk, you have been warned if you get death threats or waste time and money on these women.

[redfeather]

Eurobrat,
You are bringing up all the good points that I also saw when I was in Ukraine in Jan 2018. I also saw that Russian and Ukrainian women were into power in the relationship which will not work with an Army Colonel. I also did not see much humility in these women. I saw many of the same traits that I dislike in American women. I dated five Russian and I think seven Ukraine women, so I was not confined to just one or two women. I spent over two years dating women from Russia and Ukraine. As I stated I switched to the Philippines and I am in a relationship with a nice woman from the Southern Philippines now. My Army buddies that are Expat's and live in the Philippines told me to stay away from women in the Northern part of the Philippines. So, I did not search anywhere in Luzon or the Northern provinces. My Army buddies said the Northern Philippine women are too much into playing games and wasting your time. I am giving you some good to know information.

[Yohan]

There are plenty of women out on so-called international dating websites, for sure there are a lot of profiles which are outdated, contain a lot of wrong information or the profile is a fake of a woman who does not even exist.
It is impossible for the owner of such a website to check out what is true or not.
The only what can be done is to listen to complaints, to delete such a profile quickly and to put it with all available data on a 'black list'.

My overall impression of women from Eastern Europe/Russia is not really a good one. You have to go there yourself, you should be able to understand enough of the local language and keep a strict way from the first contact on. Honest women can be found, but their availability is somewhat limited.

You have to understand while for example Russia is a very large country, there are only 140 million people living there.
About Ukraine, poverty is surely not a reason to carry on with a honest life-style. Often more the opposite, many women are clearly into scam activities.

My personal opinion is, right or wrong who knows, is that a Western man should relocate to the place where the girl is living and never bring her to your own native country.

I did that with Asia, coming from Europe and my experience in Malaysia, Philippines and Japan was fairly good.
No Asian girl was bad to me, but I left some of them because I felt they did not fit me well and continued until I found one who had a reasonable behavior.

About Happier Abroad is dead, this is not true. Happier Abroad is not dead as long as you are willing to move out from the Western pro-feminist zone and do not question the life-style of local women living in other parts of this world.

I often made some comments here in this forum where I said, first of all move out from Western countries, find yourself another place of living, regulate your own matters first - like visa, job and such issues - and after look around for women.... you will find them...

[eurobrat]

Eurobrat,
You are bringing up all the good points that I also saw when I was in Ukraine in Jan 2018. I also saw that Russian and Ukrainian women were into power in the relationship which will not work with an Army Colonel. I also did not see much humility in these women. I saw many of the same traits that I dislike in American women. I dated five Russian and I think seven Ukraine women, so I was not confined to just one or two women. I spent over two years dating women from Russia and Ukraine. As I stated I switched to the Philippines and I am in a relationship with a nice woman from the Southern Philippines now. My Army buddies that are Expat's and live in the Philippines told me to stay away from women in the Northern part of the Philippines. So, I did not search anywhere in Luzon or the Northern provinces. My Army buddies said the Northern Philippine women are too much into playing games and wasting your time. I am giving you some good to know information.

Well appreciated Colonel Red Feather, my one problem is I'm not into Asian women and more of a boob man so I don't think Asia would work out for me.

[Yohan]

..... I dated five Russian and I think seven Ukraine women, so I was not confined to just one or two women. I spent over two years dating women from Russia and Ukraine. As I stated I switched to the Philippines and I am in a relationship with a nice woman from the Southern Philippines now.

Sounds to be a good advice, it's not only because it is said Asian women are good wives (clearly many are not) but you have to see the number of women available. Your chance is better in Asia compared to Eastern Europe, however you have to be willing to date out of your own race, using a different language and not your native language, willing to accept different religious and moral arguments etc.

So your advice, which I consider as a good advice, might not fit every Western man.

About myself, coming from Europe I am living in Asia since over 40 years, I never regretted my relocation - I never came back.
I recommend international and interracial dating for every Western man.

[eurobrat]

About Happier Abroad is dead, this is not true. Happier Abroad is not dead as long as you are willing to move out from the Western pro-feminist zone and do not question the life-style of local women living in other parts of this world.

I would tend to disagree with you Yohan but appreciate your opinion. I think a good life can be had in western countries or even USA. Americans live far better than most other countries I have visited and have more disposable income.

Why not be happier at home?

[Mr S]

Wow amazing trip report man .

Yes I've been warning people about Eastern Europeans. My family knew a Ukrainian girl once. She was attractive and hooked up with a beta friend of our family. He ended up financing her trips round Europe to bang Chad. Totally cuckolded .

As to where next, who knows. I am hearing good things about Filipinas. Maybe you gotta find one and bleach her hair blonde?

Apparently Hooters in Bangkok is staffed mainly by Pinays, I will check it out.

I hope we get more trip reports here .

FIILIPINAS are just as bad but in different ways. Basically, globalism and instant communication technologies have ruined women everywhere for the most part. Gone are the days where you can just go somewhere to another country and because you're a Western guy you can get any girl you want. You're basically going to have to stand out and be a stand up man in whatever country you decide to find a woman in whether it's your own or another. Guys will just have to improve themselves, learn how to screen women better and not just jump with any woman that's willing to spread her legs for you. Since they are increasingly becoming mental cases in every country and culture, as a man you will have to learn how to resist them more often to the point where you may have to give up dating or being with one for extended periods of time just to make sure you avoid the pitfalls of getting involved with a psycho.

As a previous poster mentioned if you really need to get laid just go for hookers, that way there is no lasting commitment or issues. You pay for them to go away. However, I think it's better just to learn abstinence and focus your energies on more meaningful pursuits then chasing women around the world or your home country.

I plan on moving back to the states in a couple of years. I've had enough with living overseas. Will do a reset then reevaluate things in a few years from there. The global march of price parity but with continued lower quality of life doesn't really make it worth staying in a country like the Philippines anymore. If I'm paying almost the same price to live in a country like the Philippines why stay in a polluted, over crowded cess pool of mediocre living standards coupled with middling to lower end citizenry? The pool of women around keep getting worse every year and they don't really care for foreigners anymore, the mystique is over. Maybe the extreme poor ones will still get with a foreigner but it's just for the money and to improve their families status in life. You're life will not magically get better just being with a younger uneducated filipina that may look pretty good now to an older guy but she's really just an albatross in your life that you will come to regret after your rose tinted glasses get cleaned up a bit. Middle to upper class women are snobby and prejudiced against foreigners now for the most part. The whole brainwashing of the anti-white movement is slowly trickling down to this country as well. Globalism media at it's finest! White privilege march is also in the office where I work. It's retarded how easily brainwashed people can become just by international social media trends.

Western countries seem to be going off the deep end, including America, but once you come to the conclusion women are generally crazy and have emotional issues everywhere you can just focus on other things in your life. If you happen to run across a decent woman while pursuing life goals, fine that's great! Just don't waste all your time looking for the woman of your dreams that you think will just magically improve your life. Pursue more important matters. If you're meant to be with a woman she'll eventually show up in your life, rather than allowing your ego to run around pursuing wrong leads that will just inevitably screw you over most likely in the long run.

[Mr S]

Eurobrat,
You are bringing up all the good points that I also saw when I was in Ukraine in Jan 2018. I also saw that Russian and Ukrainian women were into power in the relationship which will not work with an Army Colonel. I also did not see much humility in these women. I saw many of the same traits that I dislike in American women. I dated five Russian and I think seven Ukraine women, so I was not confined to just one or two women. I spent over two years dating women from Russia and Ukraine. As I stated I switched to the Philippines and I am in a relationship with a nice woman from the Southern Philippines now. My Army buddies that are Expat's and live in the Philippines told me to stay away from women in the Northern part of the Philippines. So, I did not search anywhere in Luzon or the Northern provinces. My Army buddies said the Northern Philippine women are too much into playing games and wasting your time. I am giving you some good to know information.

Well appreciated Colonel Red Feather, my one problem is I'm not into Asian women and more of a breast man so I don't think Asia would work out for me.

There are Filipinas and SE Asians who have big breasts, you can find them. However, usually you have to choose between bit tits and no ass or nice ass and no tits. Very rarely can you find both. I've noticed Vietnam and Thailand seem to have women with nice larger breast sizes compared to Filipinas where it's a bit harder to find. However, whether they are quality women that's another determination all to itself.