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flowerthief00 wrote:
August 19th, 2019, 7:03 pm
Cornfed wrote:
August 18th, 2019, 9:10 pm
Just google "climategate". You'll have to go aways down the list to avoid the usual shills.
I'm not asking what "climategate" was. So some scientists were in disagreement. Well there are always scientists who are in disagreement about any given thing, as science by its nature is conflicting. Nothing surprising or sinister there.

You said "UN experts disagree with you in that they confirm the whole thing is a pack of lies made to sell a particular political agenda." Where's the evidence for that?
If you actually read about climategate you’d know the leaked e-mails confirm what I said.
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It's a process. At first when you start capitalist enterprises then you want a lot of customers who can buy your products. Then when you already own the world you don't need customers any more and if fact want to remove squatters from your property. All planned in advance and perfectly simple really.
Just kill off the rest of the world is perfectly simple? lol
With what army? Don't tell me with vaccines.
Most likely starvation and disease.
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Cornfed wrote:
August 19th, 2019, 7:39 pm
If you actually read about climategate you’d know the leaked e-mails confirm what I said.
What I've read appears damning...until you read the other side of the story.

Why don't you tell me what you've read that proves the "pack of lies" bit? Those involved with the IPCC could all be shitty scientists -- some of them surely were -- but the fundamental findings of climate change are still backed by our best evidence (as summarized in the article below).

Climate science emails cannot destroy argument that world is warming, and humans are responsible
Cornfed wrote:
August 19th, 2019, 3:18 am
Most likely starvation and disease.
If most likely this or that is the best we can say then I'm not too worried.
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Go watch Al Gores An Incovenient Truth and see how many of his predictions panned out and he won a nobel prize so it goes to show how much credibility the establishment has.

Jesse Ventura did a show years ago on this and it is factually accurate according to Ed Griffin and it does point out all roads go back to where ????? Maurice Strong played a big part in it through the UN and who donated the land to the UN in New York city for their Head Quaters ? can you say the credit monopoly.

Yes the planet is going to hell but the global warming dogma is about taking control of all future production as stated in the communal dictatorship.....
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Some Wikipedia articles about the NWO and plot for world government. What do you think? Is it neutral or biased?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World ... cy_theory)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism ... balization

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_stat ... ted_States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_go ... onspiracy)

The last one includes some quotes about the NWO plot.
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"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation."—John Hylan, Mayor of New York City, 1922

"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people."—From the Platform of President Theodore Roosevelt's Progressive ("Bull Moose") Party.[10]

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of."—Edward Bernays, the "father of public relations", writing in his influential 1928 book Propaganda. [11]

“But quite frankly there is an outside source which we refer to as the 'deep state' or the 'shadow government'. There is a lot of influence by people which are actually more powerful than our government itself, our president,”. "— Ron Paul, former U.S. Representative, November 2016 (following Donald Trump presidential election win).[12]
Wikipedia's criticism of the NWO conspiracy theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World ... #Criticism
Criticism

Skeptics of New World Order conspiracy theories accuse its proponents of indulging in the furtive fallacy, a belief that significant facts of history are necessarily sinister; conspiracism, a world view that centrally places conspiracy theories in the unfolding of history, rather than social and economic forces; and fusion paranoia, a promiscuous absorption of fears from any source whatsoever.[6]

Domhoff, a research professor in psychology and sociology who studies theories of power, wrote in 2005 an essay entitled There Are No Conspiracies. He says that for this theory to be true it required several "wealthy and highly educated people" to do things that don't "fit with what we know about power structures". Claims that this will happen goes back decades and have always been proved wrong.

Partridge, a contributing editor to the global affairs magazine Diplomatic Courier, wrote a 2008 article entitled One World Government: Conspiracy Theory or Inevitable Future? He says that if anything nationalism, which is the opposite of a global government, is rising. He also says that attempts at creating global governments or global agreements "have been categorical failures" and where "supranational governance exist they are noted for their bureaucracy and inefficiency."

Although some cultural critics see superconspiracy theories about a New World Order as "postmodern metanarratives" that may be politically empowering, a way of giving ordinary people a narrative structure with which to question what they see around them,[94] skeptics argue that conspiracism leads people into cynicism, convoluted thinking, and a tendency to feel it is hopeless even as they denounce the alleged conspirators.[95]

Alexander Zaitchik from the Southern Poverty Law Center wrote a report titled "'Patriot' Paranoia: A Look at the Top Ten Conspiracy Theories", in which he personally condemns such conspiracies as an effort of the radical right to undermine society.[96]

Concerned that the improvisational millennialism of most conspiracy theories about a New World Order might motivate lone wolves to engage in leaderless resistance leading to domestic terrorist incidents like the Oklahoma City bombing,[97] Barkun writes that "the danger lies less in such beliefs themselves ... than in the behavior they might stimulate or justify" and warns "should they believe that the prophesied evil day had in fact arrived, their behavior would become far more difficult to predict."

Warning of the threat to American democracy posed by right-wing populist movements led by demagogues who mobilize support for mob rule or even a fascist revolution by exploiting the fear of conspiracies, Berlet writes that "Right-wing populist movements can cause serious damage to a society because they often popularize xenophobia, authoritarianism, scapegoating, and conspiracism. This can lure mainstream politicians to adopt these themes to attract voters, legitimize acts of discrimination (or even violence), and open the door for revolutionary right-wing populist movements, such as fascism, to recruit from the reformist populist movements."

Hughes, a professor of religion, warns that no religious idea has greater potential for shaping global politics in profoundly negative ways than "the new world order". He writes in a February 2011 article entitled Revelation, Revolutions, and the Tyrannical New World Order that "the crucial piece of this puzzle is the identity of the Antichrist, the tyrannical figure who both leads and inspires the new world order". This has in turn been the Soviet Union and the Arab world. He says that inspires believers to "welcome war with the Islamic world" and opens the door to nuclear holocaust."

Criticisms of New World Order conspiracy theorists also come from within their own community. Despite believing themselves to be "freedom fighters", many right-wing populist conspiracy theorists hold views that are incompatible with their professed libertarianism, such as dominionism, white supremacism, and even eliminationism.[15][98] This paradox has led Icke, who argues that Christian Patriots are the only Americans who understand the truth about the New World Order (which he believes is controlled by a race of reptilians known as the "Babylonian Brotherhood"), to reportedly tell a Christian Patriot group, "I don't know which I dislike more, the world controlled by the Brotherhood, or the one you want to replace it with."
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Mainstream media articles about the NWO conspiracy theory.

https://nymag.com/news/features/conspir ... rld-order/
A Global Government Is Waiting in the Wings
By Hua Hsu

The New World Order is not so much a single plot as a way of reading history. At its most basic level: A cabal, working in secret as well as through official-­seeming, above­ground means, seeks to establish an all-powerful, possibly Luciferian, one-world government. ­Suspicions surrounding a shadow Establishment date back at least to the 1700s, with the birth of the Freemasons and the Illuminati. But it was the past century’s global wars, political re­alignments, and media innovations that gave new purchase to this age-old paranoia. In the modern version, the New World Order hides in plain sight, a Mad Libs–style metastory about how the free people of the West have begun to willingly, blindly surrender ourselves to our coming totalitarian overlords. What they want to do to us is never exactly clear—the anxiety tends to be more about the “new” part than the “order” part.
This is a great nutshell summary that nails the concept of the NWO conspiracy and plot for world government in paranoia culture. Hilarious.

https://www.thenation.com/article/archi ... xon-mobil/
You know the story: The globalists want your guns. They want your democracy. They’re hovering just beyond the horizon in those black helicopters. They control the media and Wall Street. They’ve burrowed into a deep state that stretches like a vast tectonic plate beneath America’s fragile government institutions. They want to replace the United States with the United Nations, erase national borders, and create one huge, malevolent international order.

The only thing that stands in their way is—take your pick—the Second Amendment, Twitter, or Donald Trump.
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Of course there is. It's not even a secret. It's just a matter of can a person accept it or not.
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Neo wrote:
May 19th, 2020, 11:38 pm
Of course there is. It's not even a secret. It's just a matter of can a person accept it or not.
But they claim the term NWO is just a figure of speech. How do you know thats not true? The catholic church and british empire could be said to be a NWO too if u see it as a figure of speech meaning a new order of things or new empire arising, etc. If so thats nothing new. Power shifts all the time.

Even if there is an agenda for world government that could just be centralized power, and not some Orwellian government that you saw in 1984. The elite know thats not sustainable. They arent stupid. That might work in Asia where people are always compliant to authority. But not in the western world. In the western world you can only rule with a secret dictatorship where people think they are free but they are not. You can't rule with an open dictatorship with boot stomping troops.

America is like a prison where the bars are invisible, as michael tsarion said. Thats the only kind of dictatorship that can work in america, one thats hidden and lets people think they are free while they are mind controlled. In fact thats what we have now. They can't establish an open dictatorship like north korea in America and the whole world right?
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Winston wrote:
May 20th, 2020, 10:04 am
Neo wrote:
May 19th, 2020, 11:38 pm
Of course there is. It's not even a secret. It's just a matter of can a person accept it or not.
But they claim the term NWO is just a figure of speech. How do you know thats not true? The catholic church and british empire could be said to be a NWO too if u see it as a figure of speech meaning a new order of things or new empire arising, etc. If so thats nothing new. Power shifts all the time.

Even if there is an agenda for world government that could just be centralized power, and not some Orwellian government that you saw in 1984. The elite know thats not sustainable. They arent stupid. That might work in Asia where people are always compliant to authority. But not in the western world. In the western world you can only rule with a secret dictatorship where people think they are free but they are not. You can't rule with an open dictatorship with boot stomping troops.

America is like a prison where the bars are invisible, as michael tsarion said. Thats the only kind of dictatorship that can work in america, one thats hidden and lets people think they are free while they are mind controlled. In fact thats what we have now. They can't establish an open dictatorship like north korea in America and the whole world right?
You've answered your own question.
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Mind blowing lecture by Dr. Stanley Monteith about hidden secrets of the NWO that will blow your mind and boil your blood! He comes from a Christian perspective so @Neo will love this guy.



Fascinating article on how the Jesuits and the secret Grey and Black Popes rule the world behind the scenes.

https://dotnetspec.wordpress.com/uncate ... -nobility/
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This whole coronavirus shut down of businesses around the world could lead to us going to a cashless society. They are talking about everyone around the world taking a computer microchip under their skin which would act as a credit or debit card. This chip would also have all of your heath information on it (like whether or not you are vaccinated for the coronavirus). You would not be able to buy or sell anything unless you had this computer chip implanted into your skin (probably would be in either your right or left hand).
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Winston wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 2:20 pm
Mind blowing lecture by Dr. Stanley Monteith about hidden secrets of the NWO that will blow your mind and boil your blood! He comes from a Christian perspective so @Neo will love this guy.



Fascinating article on how the Jesuits and the secret Grey and Black Popes rule the world behind the scenes.

https://dotnetspec.wordpress.com/uncate ... -nobility/
Great video!!
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They are saying once a vaccine becomes available, everyone will be required to get it or face a fine or jail time! :shock:
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