PAG busted as a living fraud, once again!

[Yohan]

@Yohan: What other forums do you know him from?

Why do you ask me? About which person are you talking?
If you talk about PAG+sockpuppets, I do not know him, no idea who this person is.
If you talk about Contrarian Expatriate, please contact him directly if you want to know more about him.

So you're retarded. All right.

You have mental issues, not even fit to qualify as a troll.

I'm more than qualified to beat the shit out of you.

Another sockpuppet made by PAG...
This forum has obviously more sockpuppets than regular members.

[Winston]

Why do you ask me? About which person are you talking?
If you talk about PAG+sockpuppets, I do not know him, no idea who this person is.
If you talk about Contrarian Expatriate, please contact him directly if you want to know more about him.

So you're retarded. All right.

You have mental issues, not even fit to qualify as a troll.

I'm more than qualified to beat the shit out of you.

Another sockpuppet made by PAG...
This forum has obviously more sockpuppets than regular members.

Just because someone acts like a hobo or ass or degenerate doesn't mean they must be PAG. There are more than one such types in this world you know. lol. PAG is not God. He can't be everywhere at once.

[Yohan]

So you're retarded. All right.

You have mental issues, not even fit to qualify as a troll.

I'm more than qualified to beat the shit out of you.

Another sockpuppet made by PAG...
This forum has obviously more sockpuppets than regular members.

Just because someone acts like a hobo or ass or degenerate doesn't mean they must be PAG. There are more than one such types in this world you know. lol. PAG is not God. He can't be everywhere at once.

PAG is not god, but he is obviously inspired by god, as he is omnipresent - I can see PAG everywhere, in every thread of this forum. LOL

[Winston]

Rock told me that PAG sounds tough and confident on the phone. He said that PAG called E Irizarry once and recorded it. It was on YouTube but got removed for some reason. Before it was removed though, Rock made an mp3 copy of it. He sent it to me. Have you guys heard it before? If not, I uploaded it to my Google Drive for you guys to hear. What do you think? Does PAG sound tough and badass? lol. Did you like the way he handled E Irizarry? What was their scuffle about? It sounds like they were resolving some kind of dispute here. The call cut off in the middle of the conversation though. I don't know why. Maybe PAG didn't record all of the conversation.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bIrNaL ... sp=sharing

@MarcosZeitola , @Yohan , @hypermak what do you think? Does PAG sound tough and badass?

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Rock told me that PAG sounds tough and confident on the phone. He said that PAG called E Irizarry once and recorded it. It was on YouTube but got removed for some reason. Before it was removed though, Rock made an mp3 copy of it. He sent it to me. Have you guys heard it before? If not, I uploaded it to my Google Drive for you guys to hear. What do you think? Does PAG sound tough and badass? lol. Did you like the way he handled E Irizarry? What was their scuffle about? It sounds like they were resolving some kind of dispute here. The call cut off in the middle of the conversation though. I don't know why. Maybe PAG didn't record all of the conversation.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bIrNaL ... sp=sharing

I thought they both sounded rather intelligent in that conversation although I disagreed with most of PAG's assessment (especially the part about my being gay).

I think EIrizarry deftly de-escalated the conversation and avoided a nasty verbal altercation which could have led to something worse.

For the record, I don't hate women, but I truly loathe feminists and I am not at all impressed with Western women in general. PAG's opinions typified that of the prevailing politically correct narrative common in American universities.

[hypermak]

Rock told me that PAG sounds tough and confident on the phone. He said that PAG called E Irizarry once and recorded it. It was on YouTube but got removed for some reason. Before it was removed though, Rock made an mp3 copy of it. He sent it to me. Have you guys heard it before? If not, I uploaded it to my Google Drive for you guys to hear. What do you think? Does PAG sound tough and badass? lol. Did you like the way he handled E Irizarry? What was their scuffle about? It sounds like they were resolving some kind of dispute here. The call cut off in the middle of the conversation though. I don't know why. Maybe PAG didn't record all of the conversation.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bIrNaL ... sp=sharing

@MarcosZeitola , @Yohan , @hypermak what do you think? Does PAG sound tough and badass?

Sounded like a pretty lame phonecall to me. I didn't understand what the beef was between PAG and Irizarry but I found PAG's idea to pay Irizarry a plane ticket so he could fight with him face to face right out of a stand-up comedy sketch. As some people said before, if PAG was clear from the beginning that all of his braggadocio, all of his over-the-top language and all the mocking and looking down he believes everybody else deserves, were just for laughs, for comedic effect, then his online persona would be tolerable, perhaps even enjoyable from time to time.

The problem with him is that he is absolutely desperate to be taken seriously. He wants us to believe he is the successful entrepreneur and polymath from Silicon Valley, the successful international playboy, the superior mind because that's what he believes. Like most people with serious mental conditions like his, he is too self-absorbed to notice that nobody is buying his BS and the few time he does, like in the OP, he gets absolutely ballistic about it! As if we aren't supposed to stop the artist during his performance, we aren't supposed to call out on his cheap tricks before the show is over.

Like his senile equivalent @Contrarian Expatriate, he lives to show off what he is not, and what he doesn't have. And damn anyone who dares contradict him!

I used my feuds with CE and PAG to improve my written English and will be having less and less of those as my life in Italy gets busy again. That doesn't mean I hate them or anything, I just find it pathetic that they can't find more productive ways of living their lives, than pretend to be someone else and bragging about it hoping someone will buy.

[Winston]

Here's the thread where PAG posted the phone call. It was in a thread called "Black guy killing it in Europe".

viewtopic.php?p=327811#p327811

Can anyone tell in that thread what the feud or fight was about between PAG and E Irizarry? What was the context?

@E Irizarry R&B Singer do you remember?

[Winston]

Doesn't PAG sound like someone who is a member of Antifa or a prospective member and type that would join such a thing? He sounds very leftist and brainwashed by Communist brainwashing and believes all the Communist lies.

As J Edgar Hoover said "Communism is not an ideology. It's a disease."

If so, then PAG is infected with the Communist disease. lol

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

Rock told me that PAG sounds tough and confident on the phone. He said that PAG called E Irizarry once and recorded it. It was on YouTube but got removed for some reason. Before it was removed though, Rock made an mp3 copy of it. He sent it to me. Have you guys heard it before? If not, I uploaded it to my Google Drive for you guys to hear. What do you think? Does PAG sound tough and badass? lol. Did you like the way he handled E Irizarry? What was their scuffle about? It sounds like they were resolving some kind of dispute here. The call cut off in the middle of the conversation though. I don't know why. Maybe PAG didn't record all of the conversation.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bIrNaL ... sp=sharing

@MarcosZeitola , @Yohan , @hypermak what do you think? Does PAG sound tough and badass?

@Winston , he did not "handle" me per se.. I de-escalated it because before that call, I offered to fight him in Ohio when I was living there. He rebuked that, and then he decided to call me hence the phone conversation that's circulating among us [which is now to offer me to come to Calif. to square off with him].No sense in getting SICK-lical with somebody. He didn't even finish with why I was pushing White supremacist sh!t so how deep is his "beef" qualm for me? Not much I'd say. He didn't want that badly hence I didn't either. If he wanted it badly, I was down to go lb. for lb. all jokes aside. Ohio has wide open pastures for "scraping" (ie. 80s/90s slang for "fisticuffs" ..."street fighting"....however, if he wanted a "fight", it is not going to happen now because I'm focused on my music more than ever. I've moved into a new studio which the sound treatment is 2/3rds of the way done. The only way I'd fight him is if he blatantly did something to harm me, not something as illegal as a one-party consent phone call from California.

[Winston]

E Irizarry R&B Singer,
What was the fight about? When he said he was rich and could afford to send u a plane ticket to go to California to fight him, you should have called his bluff and agreed to it. See if he would really buy u the ticket or not. Or you could have asked him to come to Ohio to fight you. Then hed have no excuse if he was rich. Lol

What was said in the rest of the conversation that was cut off and missing?

Btw are u black or a mixed race mulatto? What does your username mean?

[Winston]

@Contrarian Expatriate

PAG said in the phone call that you are a misogynist. Is that true?

Doesn't PAG sound like a leftist libtard Antifa type that hates capitalism? Lol

[Contrarian Expatriate]

@Contrarian Expatriate

PAG said in the phone call that you are a misogynist. Is that true?

What he actually said was I hate women which I do not. Misogyny refers to the hatred or the MISTRUST of women, so since I do not trust women, I do consider myself a misogynist, but I enjoy the women in my life very much. Any man who truly understands women knows that they cannot be trusted. They are emotional thinkers and they are creatures of their feelings of the moment. These feelings are fleeting and can change from day to day.

Doesn't PAG sound like a leftist libtard Antifa type that hates capitalism? Lol

As I mentioned before, he sounds like someone who has been inculcated with the language and mindset of political correctness. This I attribute to his American university education.

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

E Irizarry R&B Singer,
What was the fight about? When he said he was rich and could afford to send u a plane ticket to go to California to fight him, you should have called his bluff and agreed to it. See if he would really buy u the ticket or not. Or you could have asked him to come to Ohio to fight you. Then hed have no excuse if he was rich. Lol

What was said in the rest of the conversation that was cut off and missing?

I don't remember that malarkey. I put it behind TBTH sorry.

Btw are u black or a mixed race mulatto? What does your username mean?

@Winston , you had 13 years to ask me this question, but finally we are about to "knip it in the bud".
I am multi-generational mulatto (most Black Americans or to be more politically correct and "woke": they are ADOS (pronounced "Ay DOS (like Microsoft cmd prompt techie stuff - in pronounciation) think "Mulatto" term is offensive - I don't - I know I'm more than a mule!, but most think I'm "just a high-yellow brutha" Brazilian-American 1st generation.
The Brazilian genes (both parents) I have and am mixed with:

• - Angolese (Bantu tribe, but in American myopic Jim Crow terms, just Black but from Africa)
  - German immigrants in Brazil from WWII in Brazil (my mother's side)
  - Irish immigrants in Brazil from the Irish Potato Famine (my father's side)
  - and around 4-16 percent Amazonian Indian (from my mother's side) as if you had seen me, I have somewhat a flat nose. Most Indians have protrude sharp noses like my mother but I taken after my father with his more Negroid nose)

I look like the love child of American actor Jeffrey Wright x Trevor Noah (although nowadays I cannot stand Trevor Noah) with more Brazilian-Iberian Peninsula phenotype too.
A lot of conflation to my look as you'd imagine: e.g. "Are you Puerto Rican?" "Dominican?" "Cuban? (A lot of Mexicans ask me that)" "Brazilian? (once in awhile)"

If I were to drop 40-60 lbs, I'd look like Al B. Sure!'s son Quincy Brown with a flatter nose.

My username is my first initial, surname (i.e. last name here), & I sing R&B. I had an album out but it wasn't mastered properly so Tune Core wouldn't accept it when I tried to post it to Spotify and Deezer.
I'm getting it re-mastered and of free release in a few months so stay tuned for that.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

Btw are u black or a mixed race mulatto?

And what are you Winston? You actually appear that you might be of partial Austronesian, indigenous, Taiwanese background but with a bit of Han Chinese mixed in. And is the Han in your family Benshengren or Waishengren?

I don't believe you ever disclosed this.

[Winston]

Btw are u black or a mixed race mulatto?

And what are you Winston? You actually appear that you might be of partial Austronesian, indigenous, Taiwanese background but with a bit of Han Chinese mixed in. And is the Han in your family Benshengren or Waishengren?

I don't believe you ever disclosed this.

I am not mixed. As far as I know, I'm pure Han Chinese. Most Taiwanese ethnics are. I may do an Ancestry.com test at some point to see though.