Risks of the Covid vaccine

[Huddo]

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[Huddo]

You better ask them. They clearly fiddled the stats in this case and have a log history of doing this and out right lies, even back in the day when the polio vaccine was introduced.

But this study comes from the UK government, not anti-lethal injection proponents.

But you never read the study did you?. You just posted a link to one of the worst fake news sites on the Internet.

"one of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet," and the most "blatant purveyor of the worst kind of quackery and paranoid anti-physician and anti-medicine conspiracy theories anywhere on the Internet",
and a one-stop-shop for "virtually every quackery known to humankind, all slathered with a heaping, helping of unrelenting hostility to science-based medicine and science in general."

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.bbc ... 610998.amp

If you are so sure I’ve taken a lethal injection, then why not take up my offer of an easy 1k?

[Tsar]

You better ask them. They clearly fiddled the stats in this case and have a log history of doing this and out right lies, even back in the day when the polio vaccine was introduced.

But this study comes from the UK government, not anti-lethal injection proponents.

But you never read the study did you?. You just posted a link to one of the worst fake news sites on the Internet.

"one of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet," and the most "blatant purveyor of the worst kind of quackery and paranoid anti-physician and anti-medicine conspiracy theories anywhere on the Internet",
and a one-stop-shop for "virtually every quackery known to humankind, all slathered with a heaping, helping of unrelenting hostility to science-based medicine and science in general."

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.bbc ... 610998.amp

If you are so sure I’ve taken a lethal injection, then why not take up my offer of an easy 1k?

1K in what currency? I am anti-vax but I might get Sputnik or Sinovac if it has any benefit but the EU and WHO don't want to approve non-Western vaccines.

[Huddo]

You better ask them. They clearly fiddled the stats in this case and have a log history of doing this and out right lies, even back in the day when the polio vaccine was introduced.

But this study comes from the UK government, not anti-lethal injection proponents.

But you never read the study did you?. You just posted a link to one of the worst fake news sites on the Internet.

"one of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet," and the most "blatant purveyor of the worst kind of quackery and paranoid anti-physician and anti-medicine conspiracy theories anywhere on the Internet",
and a one-stop-shop for "virtually every quackery known to humankind, all slathered with a heaping, helping of unrelenting hostility to science-based medicine and science in general."

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.bbc ... 610998.amp

If you are so sure I’ve taken a lethal injection, then why not take up my offer of an easy 1k?

1K in what currency? I am anti-vax but I might get Sputnik or Sinovac if it has any benefit but the EU and WHO don't want to approve non-Western vaccines.

1k US. I’ll open it up to anyone. I’ll give Winston my details and my daughters with instructions to pay Winston after my death and he can pay it on.

This isn’t my first rodeo. A personal trainer on a weight loss site, lost 2k a couple of years ago when he claimed I couldn’t lose 10kg in a month. I lost 12.7kg.

Given how certain some members are that I’ll die, it’s going to say a lot about their conviction to their cause if no one takes up this easy money. It’s one thing publicly making theses types of statements, but most back down when they have an offer to put their money where their mouth is.

[Tsar]

You better ask them. They clearly fiddled the stats in this case and have a log history of doing this and out right lies, even back in the day when the polio vaccine was introduced.

But this study comes from the UK government, not anti-lethal injection proponents.

But you never read the study did you?. You just posted a link to one of the worst fake news sites on the Internet.

"one of the most wretched hives of scum and quackery on the Internet," and the most "blatant purveyor of the worst kind of quackery and paranoid anti-physician and anti-medicine conspiracy theories anywhere on the Internet",
and a one-stop-shop for "virtually every quackery known to humankind, all slathered with a heaping, helping of unrelenting hostility to science-based medicine and science in general."

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.bbc ... 610998.amp

If you are so sure I’ve taken a lethal injection, then why not take up my offer of an easy 1k?

1K in what currency? I am anti-vax but I might get Sputnik or Sinovac if it has any benefit but the EU and WHO don't want to approve non-Western vaccines.

1k US. I’ll open it up to anyone. I’ll give Winston my details and my daughters with instructions to pay Winston after my death and he can pay it on.

This isn’t my first rodeo. A personal trainer on a weight loss site, lost 2k a couple of years ago when he claimed I couldn’t lose 10kg in a month. I lost 12.7kg.

Given how certain some members are that I’ll die, it’s going to say a lot about their conviction to their cause if no one takes up this easy money. It’s one thing publicly making theses types of statements, but most back down when they have an offer to put their money where their mouth is.

That makes more sense. I thought you were offering Cornfed 1k if he got vaccinated but most people if they're anti-vax wouldn't take 1k.

I am mostly anti-vax but that's especially because I don't trust anything in the West made by a mega-corp or the "fake democratic republic" societies. I wouldn't accept any money for AstraZeneca, J&J, Moderna, or Pfizer but I would probably accept 1k and give a report on Sputnik or Sinovac. But the EU and WHO need to stop resisting approval of more trustworthy vaccines. If more trustworthy vaccines were available then people might be more willing to get one, especially if it wasn't an experimental novel mRNA vaccine.

[Cornfed]

This isn’t my first rodeo. A personal trainer on a weight loss site, lost 2k a couple of years ago when he claimed I couldn’t lose 10kg in a month. I lost 12.7kg.

What a sucker. It is easy to lose more than 10kg in a month. Just don't eat anything.

[Huddo]

This isn’t my first rodeo. A personal trainer on a weight loss site, lost 2k a couple of years ago when he claimed I couldn’t lose 10kg in a month. I lost 12.7kg.

What a sucker. It is easy to lose more than 10kg in a month. Just don't eat anything.

You need to eat something or your body tries too hard to hold onto your fat reserves initially and your metabolism won’t fire. 2 diet shakes, two pieces of fruit, 2 L of water and 200g of lean pork, beef or chicken with 3 cups of vegetables for diner and you’ll easily lose 2.5 kg a week for a man. Eat as early as possible and get to be early and the weigh falls off. I was on 600 - 900 calories a day to get into a state of ketosis.

What I didn’t tell him was that I was a big guy and had already lost 20kg in the previous 2 months with no exercise, so it was easy money.

Well easy after other members pressured him on the site and his business facebook page to honour the bet. Luckily I weighed at the start and end at my local GP. He tried to claim I faked it, but she wrote a letter stating the loss was correct and to call her if he has an issue.... I have a cool Dr

[Cornfed]

This isn’t my first rodeo. A personal trainer on a weight loss site, lost 2k a couple of years ago when he claimed I couldn’t lose 10kg in a month. I lost 12.7kg.

What a sucker. It is easy to lose more than 10kg in a month. Just don't eat anything.

You need to eat something or your body tries too hard to hold onto your fat reserves initially and your metabolism won’t fire.

Not at all. Fasting is the latest craze. It is low calorie diets that cause the body to go into starvation mode. I probably lost 10kg on an 11 day fast a couple of years ago. 30 day fasts are common.

[jerryrigged]

I fast pretty regularly and find that it helps with digestive issues. Humans were always meant to fast sometimes. Humans used to have to hunt, forage, make an effort to get food. It wasn't just a tip toe away. So there were periods of not eating due to circumstance/scarcity/etc. The fact that people eat constantly is part of why so many people are so unhealthy.

[Yohan]

I am anti-vax but I might get Sputnik or Sinovac if it has any benefit but the EU and WHO don't want to approve non-Western vaccines.

You might say the same here about Japan, there is no way to import and approve Sinovac or any other Chinese produced covid-19 vaccine because of political reasons and public opinion too.

It is ridiculous for many in Japan, that Chinese tourists (all from Wuhan area and staying in Osaka/Kyoto and Sapporo) were infecting thousands of Japanese while on holidays, after that the Chinese government was hiding any information about it, and finally China wants to sell their vaccine.
About the vaccine itself, compared to many data from countries which are using it, it is not very effective, a 50/50 product - in Thailand medical doctors are openly asking if there is something wrong with the Sinovac production procedure. It's helping somehow, but by far not what it is expected from a vaccine and the opinion is 'better than nothing'.

There is not really anything against the Sputnik vaccine, but the data so far delivered from Russia are still not sufficient by Japanese standard.
It is said, it is very similar to Astra Zeneca, and it is also said, some data from Astra Zeneca were stolen by Russian agents.

Alsdo Astra Zeneca had problems in Japan, despite a local Japanese pharma company is holding a licence for producing it - stopped for use in Japan and alll vaccine were given away to other countries for free to use it.

What remains here is only Pfizer and Moderna (which is used only by military medical facilities, but open to the public).
So far 95 million people were showing up for a shot, 20 million more on the waiting list and 11 million soon ready for the 2nd shot.

Anti-vaxxers are not a problem, as nobody is forced to show up after receiving an invitation from the ward office/national health insurance.
However people are showing up for vaccine all the time, vaccination spots are still busy.

Result so far using Pfizer (and also Moderna) is very good, out of 126 million people there were 231.596 patients at peak, 6 weeks ago.

Today, 17th October 2021 only 8.532 people are in medical care in all Japan. Entire floors dedicated solely for covid-19 patients are now empty, more than 220.000 patients were released from quarantine. There was never any real lockdown in all Japan, even not in cities with dense population.

Compare this data with typical anti-vaxx countries. Big difference.

It really seems, the Pfizer vaccine works. I cannot comment about any other vaccine.
Now preparing for seasonal flu vaccine in November and for 3rd shot covid-19 in February next year.

USA deaths (true or not?) 744,385 (population Japan x 2.5)
Mexico deaths: 284,321 (population about same as Japan)
Japan deaths: 18,079

[Tsar]

I am anti-vax but I might get Sputnik or Sinovac if it has any benefit but the EU and WHO don't want to approve non-Western vaccines.

You might say the same here about Japan, there is no way to import and approve Sinovac or any other Chinese produced covid-19 vaccine because of political reasons and public opinion too.

It is ridiculous for many in Japan, that Chinese tourists (all from Wuhan area and staying in Osaka/Kyoto and Sapporo) were infecting thousands of Japanese while on holidays, after that the Chinese government was hiding any information about it, and finally China wants to sell their vaccine.
About the vaccine itself, compared to many data from countries which are using it, it is not very effective, a 50/50 product - in Thailand medical doctors are openly asking if there is something wrong with the Sinovac production procedure. It's helping somehow, but by far not what it is expected from a vaccine and the opinion is 'better than nothing'.

There is not really anything against the Sputnik vaccine, but the data so far delivered from Russia are still not sufficient by Japanese standard.
It is said, it is very similar to Astra Zeneca, and it is also said, some data from Astra Zeneca were stolen by Russian agents.

Alsdo Astra Zeneca had problems in Japan, despite a local Japanese pharma company is holding a licence for producing it - stopped for use in Japan and alll vaccine were given away to other countries for free to use it.

What remains here is only Pfizer and Moderna (which is used only by military medical facilities, but open to the public).
So far 95 million people were showing up for a shot, 20 million more on the waiting list and 11 million soon ready for the 2nd shot.

Anti-vaxxers are not a problem, as nobody is forced to show up after receiving an invitation from the ward office/national health insurance.
However people are showing up for vaccine all the time, vaccination spots are still busy.

Result so far using Pfizer (and also Moderna) is very good, out of 126 million people there were 231.596 patients at peak, 6 weeks ago.

Today, 17th October 2021 only 8.532 people are in medical care in all Japan. Entire floors dedicated solely for covid-19 patients are now empty, more than 220.000 patients were released from quarantine. There was never any real lockdown in all Japan, even not in cities with dense population.

Compare this data with typical anti-vaxx countries. Big difference.

It really seems, the Pfizer vaccine works. I cannot comment about any other vaccine.
Now preparing for seasonal flu vaccine in November and for 3rd shot covid-19 in February next year.

USA deaths (true or not?) 744,385 (population Japan x 2.5)
Mexico deaths: 284,321 (population about same as Japan)
Japan deaths: 18,079

Maybe the Pfizer vaccine in Japan is better and more trustworthy compared than the Western vaccines. Japan is still ruled by Japanese and probably feel an obligation to ensure their people are healthy.

The West (White Nations) such as the US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, and much of the EU are completely controlled by the Jews with Zionist Occupied Governments.

There's a reason why the White Western Nations are completely corrupt, immoral, and in decline...it's because almost all White Nations in the West are completely anti-White because their rulers are not White, but Jewish and Zionist-White Collaborators.

There has been many side effects, many very bad, in White Western Nations. Maybe it's different in Japan because the vaccines are only being tainted in White Nations.

[Cornfed]

BTW, if I haven't made this request before, could all you vax lemmings please post whatever horrific medical conditions you get when they occur for gloating purposes. I suspect CE falls into this category, and it would have been nice if he could have posted to confirm. In case you are medically unable to post, it would be mighty nice if you could arrange someone to post on your behalf beforehand. It is the least you can do.

[Yohan]

Maybe the Pfizer vaccine in Japan is better and more trustworthy compared than the Western vaccines. Japan is still ruled by Japanese and probably feel an obligation to ensure their people are healthy.

The West (White Nations) such as the US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, and much of the EU are completely controlled by the Jews with Zionist Occupied Governments.

There's a reason why the White Western Nations are completely corrupt, immoral, and in decline...it's because almost all White Nations in the West are completely anti-White because their rulers are not White, but Jewish and Zionist-White Collaborators.

There has been many side effects, many very bad, in White Western Nations. Maybe it's different in Japan because the vaccines are only being tainted in White Nations.

In Japan the local pharma producer/importer is fully liable for those vaccines which are distributed within Japan.
In case of obligatory vaccination the Japanese government can also be kept responsible for any damages caused by unsafe vaccine and can face lawsuits as well.

However so far Japanese medical staff administered about 196 million shots (mostly Pfizer, only the military is using Moderna) - most of them with only mild side-effects which disappear within 2 to 3 days. Not many complaints, no much anti-vaxxer activity.

People regarding covid-19 are showing up by themselves, there is no obligation to accept vaccination.

Since the vaccination campaign started middle of July this year in Japan, the number of infections is significantly down.
Peak - 231.596 patients in September, now only 1.540, very big difference. Vaccination rate so far is 78.5 % out of 125 million people.
It seems vaccination of Pfizer in Japan works.

Deaths are 18,331 since February 2020 (almost since 22 months). There is no difference in the number of funerals between 2019, 2020 and so far also in 2021, almost the same. About 115.000 funerals per month out of a population of around 125 million people.

We never had any lockdown or otherwise individual restrictions within all Japan, the Japanese government has no power to do that.

In case of delta-variant, Japanese and Korean medical research institutes found that you need a vaccination rate of 80 to 90 percent of the entire population in densely populated areas to interrupt infection and to prevent it to spread among people.

[flowerthief00]

Not many complaints, no much anti-vaxxer activity.

People regarding covid-19 are showing up by themselves, there is no obligation to accept vaccination.

The above two sentences are contradictory...according to Merriam's new definition of anti-vaxxer.

Do you oppose regulations mandating vaccination? Then you're an anti-vaxxer. Do the Japanese not think vaccinations should be obligatory? Sounds like most Japanese are anti-vaxxers. Japan (and many other places) is a raging anti-vaxxer nation.

Anyone who is not an anti-vaxxer is an authoritarian, if this is the definition we have to use.

[Yohan]

Do you oppose regulations mandating vaccination? Then you're an anti-vaxxer. Do the Japanese not think vaccinations should be obligatory? Sounds like most Japanese are anti-vaxxers. Japan (and many other places) is a raging anti-vaxxer nation.
Anyone who is not an anti-vaxxer is an authoritarian, if this is the definition we have to use.

About myself, I am pro vaccination but I do not support mandatory vaccination. I do what I want, you do what you want.

The huge majority in Japan are NOT anti-vaxxers. But even if they are, who cares about them? Nobody is forced to show up for vaccination of covid-19.

Medical staff has a lot of work to do with people who are showing up by themselves for covid-19 vaccination, still some waiting lists do exist in major cities and rural remote areas.

Question: How do you even know who is anti-vaxxer in Japan? I don't know if people passing by next to me if they are vaccinated or not.

In Japan about vaccination - everybody living here has Japanese health insurance and is receiving an invitation by letter from the National Health Insurance with coupons for joining free vaccination (in this case covid-19) - but if you go to a medical clinic or not is up to you.

Other vaccinations, like seasonal flu or pneumonia etc. this year you have to order it from a medical doctor by yourself, pay a fee and a part of the charges pays the insurance. You sign up with a form or not, nobody cares, but many are showing up, especially elderly people.

https://vdata.nikkei.com/newsgraphics/c ... ne-status/

In Japan about covid-19, 75.8 % of the population received 2 shots, 2.7 % received 1 shot of Pfizer (or by showing up in military medical facilities Moderna).

Totally almost 100 million people out of 125 million people received 195 million shots so far.
You come, it's OK, you do not come... never mind. Up to you.

Now mostly younger people are showing up with their coupons for covid-19 vaccination, people 65+ are already 91.8 % Pfizer vaccinated.

Now seasonal flu shot campaign is going on, again, you come and pay (about USD 25,-) it's OK and if not, it's also fine. Nobody cares about your decision. Same with pneumonia and other vaccinations.

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As a fact, out of 231.596 covid-19 patients at peak end of August there are now only 1.523 known patients in all Japan. This means covid-19 is significantly reduced, even gone in some provinces which report ZERO patients in hospitals and ZERO newly discovered infections.

Last covid-19 count can be seen with this link:

https://www.stopcovid19.jp/