Why so many Anglos turn to homosexuality (1 in 6 Zoomers is queer)

[ArchibaultNew]

People say French are "gay." But I don't think so. I think French can engage in homosexual acts in their privacy life but will go back to being hetero. Anglos on other hand, seems to be fully into the LGBT lifestyle. The women seem to have "androphobia" while the men are awkward don't talk to girls and rather stick to hanging out with their bros. Also I notice that many are "misogynistic and dislike women. Why is it that in English speaking countries "p***y" is an insult. While in other countries "gay" is the insult for not being masculine.

[MrMan]

People say French are "gay." But I don't think so. I think French can engage in homosexual acts in their privacy life but will go back to being hetero. Anglos on other hand, seems to be fully into the LGBT lifestyle. The women seem to have "androphobia" while the men are awkward don't talk to girls and rather stick to hanging out with their bros. Also I notice that many are "misogynistic and dislike women. Why is it that in English speaking countries "p***y" is an insult. While in other countries "gay" is the insult for not being masculine.

Engaging in same-sex sexual behavior is the immoral thing associated with being 'gay.' Doing that and then being publicaly 'straight' isn't commendable.

When I was a teenager, calling another kid a 'fag' or 'gay' for not being masculine was as common as the 'p**y' insult if not moreso. But now you get censored, cancelled, etc. I'm not into lobbing crude slanderous insults at people so I don't call men such things if they don't show courage...or whatever.

I read about 1/3 of a certain young generation identified as LGBT. The LGBT movement has really done a number warping the thinking of that generation. But a lot of these people probably just have sex with the opposite sex, but also might say they don't really matter; they just love whoever, so they can sound 'woke.' Some of it's virtue signaling, but with a warped false idea of virtue.

And some of them might have been brainwashed into defiling their own bodies by participating in homosexual acts, like your idea of the French. I'm not saying that's common among the French. I have no idea.

[Lucas88]

People say French are "gay." But I don't think so. I think French can engage in homosexual acts in their privacy life but will go back to being hetero. Anglos on other hand, seems to be fully into the LGBT lifestyle. The women seem to have "androphobia" while the men are awkward don't talk to girls and rather stick to hanging out with their bros. Also I notice that many are "misogynistic and dislike women. Why is it that in English speaking countries "p***y" is an insult. While in other countries "gay" is the insult for not being masculine.

Rookh Kshatriya in his Anglobitch blog talks about a supposed high frequency of homosexuality throughout the Anglosphere. He supposes that a sizable subset of men choose the homosexual lifestyle over heterosexuality because relations between men and women have become extremely strained and unpleasant and the homosexual lifestyle confers certain advantages such as abundant opportunities for sex and romance as well as access to higher status social circles regardless of one's own social background.

I have a similar idea with regard to homosexuality in the Anglosphere. I think that some people who engage in homosexual acts are completely gay from the beginning whereas others are merely bisexual. In a socially conservative society most bisexual people will typically pair off with somebody of the opposite sex and have a normal heterosexual relationship since that is what is considered acceptable. They'll limit homosexual behavior to sporadic encounters here and there or suppress their homosexual urges completely in favor of heterosexuality. However, in a society where relations between men and women are completely strained and women and society in general are hostile towards the average heterosexual male as is the case in the Anglosphere, increasingly more of these bisexual men will naturally give up on relationships with women and adopt the full-blown gay lifestyle as a preferable alternative. Anglo women have just become too unbearable to be around yet alone pursue romantically and so for those men it is just easier to be gay. This trend naturally inflates the numbers of homosexuals.

It isn't just regular homosexuality today either. More men are actively pursuing sexual encounters and romance with transsexuals too and speak openly about it on the internet. In some countries women have become that rotten and of low quality that droves of men who would ordinarily be straight are opting to date super hot and feminine Tgurls due to their superior quality. Let's be honest about it: many of these Tgurls are way more physically attractive and behaviorally feminine than the majority of Anglo women who now tend to neglect their appearance because, according to feminist doctrine, looking good for a man is "sexual objectification" ( ) and who behave more like semi-masculine androgynous beings rather than like actual women. In this day and age a subset of feminized gayboys (I don't want to be transphobic but that's what they are) are of greater feminine quality than most women and some guys are choosing to date them over women because of this.

So, to answer your question, so many men in Anglo countries turn to homosexuality and TS dating because of the extremely low quality of Anglo women and the hostile misandric attitudes which permeate Anglo society.

[MrMan]

I disagree that same sex sexual behaviour is immoral. On what grounds is it immoral? If sex is between two consenting adults does it really matter if they are same sex or not? Who are they actually hurting?

If you're going to say that the Bible condemns homosexuality and sinful then why does God allow certain animals to be gay? Animals participate in same sex sexual behaviour as well. Are we to believe now that the natural world, which you believe Yahweh created, is unnatural?

I do agree with one sentiment you made however. The LGBTQ Community is really starting to get on my nerves pushing their agenda and no pun intended here but they are ramming it down people's throats. They are confusing kids with the whole gender discussion and encouraging homosexuality in schools. As a father I find this disgusting! Why can't they just let kids be kids and stop filling their heads with shit

Just on a visceral intuitive level, a lot of men realize that homosexuality and trans is disgusting. I remember when I was 7... I don't think I'd heard anything about trans or gay or anything like that, but on my 7th birthday, my parents took us out for a movie. This is probably the second one I remember after Star Wars. I remember seeing a Rocky movie was playing, probably Rocky II. But my parents said that wasn't for kids and took me to see an Apple Dumpling Gang movie. I don't remember much about it, but I remember in one scene, the actors disguised themselves as women. I found the sight quite repulsive and off-putting, kind of like the idea of doing gay stuff, except not as gross.

I think either a lot of men are afraid to admit their disgust at the whole topic because of PC/woke culture and criticism from others, etc. Maybe the brainwashing from TV, the education system, movies, and online has really imbedded itself into the thinking of some younger generations. The whole pro-gay things is just as sick as the trans stuff you find repulsive. Maybe you are younger and were brainwashed too young to see it. I read in an academic article that they authors knew of no real evidence for an actual phobia known as 'homophobia,' but I suspect LGBT propagandists use the term to describe this natural, healthy revulsion to homosexual sex and transsexualism.

And while there has been same-sex-sex stuff and trans stuff throughout history, many people within those cultures recognized it as immoral, as in ancient Greece. Also, Chinese traditional culture rejects this type of immorality.

It's also rather damaging to the individuals who engage in such things. Gay men tend to be more prone to suicide, and trans are much worse-- for those who are actually male but trying to be female. In psychological literature, gay men are more likely to delight in flaunting social mores and such. A body of psychological literature was written on this before it became considered immoral to explore such topics in academia.

But yes, I do also consider it immoral because it defies the revealed will of God. As for animals, homosexual behavior is not the norm. We live in a fallen world due to man's sin, and animals are not paragons of virtue. Should humans imitate animals?

What reason do you think that sex acts between consenting adults are necessarily moral?

[WanderingProtagonist]

I know more about this sort of thing than anyone on this forum since I actually have had experience talking to a lot of these people before. And while some men would rather pursue transsexuals. Some of it is just lust or sex related, but they still prefer to date actual women., Thats why there are a lot of guys who hide their faces when they get involved with transgenders because they are ashamed of what they are doing and don't want actual women or other men to know that they are sleeping around with transsexual people. This one Hispanic trans said this about Latino men who try to front being all hetero and masculine (which William is clueless about lol cause he thinks Latino people are so macho they reject all the gay shit and they don't) Truth is Latino men are just as faggoty as any other men and they have feminism in their culture as well.

I remember this one Brazilian man was doing an interview he literately said feminist women in Brazil are "courageous warriors" and shit. Then there was that article where this Hispanic transgender in some part of Columbia spoke out about the violence against them, but they said the men will come to them for sex at night and then during the day they turn into violent individuals that go right back to being with women so their act is all a front. It reminded me of how one of those Hispanic gangs in prison were speaking out about homosexuality in prison and they didn't agree with it. But then they started pimping out other men and prostituting men in the prison and slowly eased right into it homosexuality.

The reason I pursued transsexuals at one point is because I got desperate, was tired of being alone and just wanted to have someone in my life because women and their goddamn hypergamy made it downright impossible. It's true that transsexuals will less likely cheat on a man and that's because they are still us, men in other words they understand loyalty which a lot of women don't. But don't be fooled into thinking that they don't have the attitude because the fact is trans people think and behave a lot like women do these days. The fact that they are aware that men are attracted to them, they are exploiting this. The highly attractive ones tend to act full of themselves, have the same ego as women, think they can get any man they want, and they can be ten times more sensitive than women too.

If someone however believe that homosexuality is a sin, I don't know where I stand here on this but I will say that it isn't normal and if people don't agree or approve of it they have a right now to. I don't even necessarily agree with it myself to be fair, but I feel that if men can't get women and they have to settle for transsexuals or what have you then society should do more to help me out but society don't want this. They really want everyone to be gay and shit and the harm? A society that can't procreate. Western transgender people in America are very much so alike the crappy women. I think about the only friendly ones are the Asian ones but most of the ones in the Philippines tend to act like cold hearted assholes at times. They have a bad habit of demanding acceptance.

I haven't tried dating anybody in years though but thought this was an interesting conversation.

[flowerthief00]

I don't consider gay behavior immoral either, but the gay marriage issue I look back on as one of the pivotal moments when domestic politics became irrational.

On the one side were religious traditionalists like Mr. Man, who I don't agree with but at least understood where they were coming from.

On the other side was something more insidious. The total misrepresentation of the issue at hand expressed in the popular so-called argument "Why shouldn't gay people be allowed to marry?" heard more times than I could count, as if it made sense. (Gay people already could marry. Just not under the same license) What happened when the courts came down on their side is that the basis that had always existed for government to regulate marriage--children--could no longer be applied. Which left the question, what then IS the basis for government being involved in marriage? Why does it get to treat these people over here different from those people over there? On the basis that they "love" each other? On the basis that they're sleeping together? Is that a legitimate reason to treat people differently? (backed by all the power of the state)

I also remember seeing fake libertarians come out of the woodwork to support the gay marriage movement, as if there could be anything libertarian about expanding a broken government institution to an even wider group of people. (the true libertarian position is for government not to be involved in marriage)

[WanderingProtagonist]

I don't consider gay behavior immoral either, but the gay marriage issue I look back on as one of the pivotal moments when domestic politics became irrational.

On the one side were religious traditionalists like Mr. Man, who I don't agree with but at least understood where they were coming from.

On the other side was something more insidious. The total misrepresentation of the issue at hand expressed in the popular so-called argument "Why shouldn't gay people be allowed to marry?" heard more times than I could count, as if it made sense. (Gay people already could marry. Just not under the same license) What happened when the courts came down on their side is that the basis that had always existed for government to regulate marriage--children--could no longer be applied. Which left the question, what then IS the basis for government being involved in marriage? Why does it get to treat these people over here different from those people over there? On the basis that they "love" each other? On the basis that they're sleeping together? Is that a legitimate reason to treat people differently? (backed by all the power of the state)

I also remember seeing fake libertarians come out of the woodwork to support the gay marriage movement, as if there could be anything libertarian about expanding a broken government institution to an even wider group of people. (the true libertarian position is for government not to be involved in marriage)

I hate to break it to you but gayness is the downfall of all societies, there are no benefits to having a society full of gay mutha fuckers unless you want a nation full of weak ass effeminate men running around adopt kids and raising f***ed up boys .That's the truth. I also believe people are right when they say gay is one step closer to legalizing the other stuff as well. Why? Because everyone is attracted to someone and will use the argument "you don't understand, you fear what you don't understand." , Homosexuality isn't normal, and neither is bestiality, incest, or any of the other stuff but people within those communities tend to push for more and more because homosexuality is not all that taboo anymore. Some of you aught to read up on the Roman Empire and see how they got f***ed. The West is headed in the same direction. When it came time to fight, them faggoty Roman boy loving chumps had it coming and because of the things they indulged in they brought down their own society and Empire. No society can function if half of it's population is indulging in immoral behavior.

Sometimes people don't want to admit that certain things are immoral but they are. It's not natural for two men to be together, granted some men go for it out of desperation, others pure lust and sexual desires. At the end of the day I honestly can't stand living among a whole bunch of homosexual people, their self entitled mentality, the fact that they call people phobes to bully them into submission. Some nations really want to do what they feel is best for their people, not always. But there is a good reason why homosexuality isn't promoted in countries like the Middle East. That's because Islam is still a ballsy religion and they don't take shit from homos like Christian people do.

[flowerthief00]

I hate to break it to you but gayness is the downfall of all societies, there are no benefits to having a society full of gay mutha fuckers unless you want a nation full of weak ass effeminate men running around adopt kids and raising f***ed up boys .That's the truth. I also believe people are right when they say gay is one step closer to legalizing the other stuff as well. Why? Because everyone is attracted to someone and will use the argument "you don't understand, you fear what you don't understand." , Homosexuality isn't normal, and neither is bestiality, incest, or any of the other stuff but people within those communities tend to push for more and more because homosexuality is not all that taboo anymore, now they want to legalize the other stuff because they are bored.

They're going to have a difficult time legalizing that other stuff because that other stuff goes against standards of consent!

Nah, nothing wrong with gayness in my book as long as it's not in my face or in children's faces.

[WanderingProtagonist]

I hate to break it to you but gayness is the downfall of all societies, there are no benefits to having a society full of gay mutha fuckers unless you want a nation full of weak ass effeminate men running around adopt kids and raising f***ed up boys .That's the truth. I also believe people are right when they say gay is one step closer to legalizing the other stuff as well. Why? Because everyone is attracted to someone and will use the argument "you don't understand, you fear what you don't understand." , Homosexuality isn't normal, and neither is bestiality, incest, or any of the other stuff but people within those communities tend to push for more and more because homosexuality is not all that taboo anymore, now they want to legalize the other stuff because they are bored.

They're going to have a difficult time legalizing that other stuff because that other stuff goes against standards of consent!

Nah, nothing wrong with gayness in my book as long as it's not in my face or in children's faces.

You truly underestimate society, tell that to the Romans then. Homosexual people have a shit load of power in the West. Not a single society full of homosexual people is in good shape. The Roman Empire fell because of that among a lot of other things that got them conquered and destroyed, The west is headed in the same direction as them. There is not one society that has ever benefited from a huge population of homosexual people either. I also have reason to believe this is why Filipina women can't find men among their own so easily. There are so many homosexual men in the Philippines that one Filipina woman actually told me that's the whole reason why she had to find a foreign husband.

[flowerthief00]

The Roman Empire fell because of that among a lot of other things that got them conquered and destroyed,

"Among a lot of other things that got them conquered and destroyed". Exactly.

What other societies fell because of homosexuality?

[WanderingProtagonist]

The Roman Empire fell because of that among a lot of other things that got them conquered and destroyed,

"Among a lot of other things that got them conquered and destroyed". Exactly.

What other societies fell because of homosexuality?

For starters the United States is getting there if they don't get rid of these democrats. You can move to San Fransisco if you want to see what a fallen society looks like up close. Homosexuals and trans people were free to rule that city like Queens and Kings and now look at it. No society is going to benefit from having a huge gay population, NONE. Just like Japan won't benefit from having a lot of herbivore men that will eventually be their downfall if they don't do something about it. Homosexuality creates weak men, homosexuals don't raise strong kids either they abuse them, especially the ones here in the U.S. That's why we have so many leftist bitches now running around this country acting the way they act, and they even supported the abortions as well.

All Empires fall from shit decisions. Homosexuality is a shit decision to impose on your entire country, but good luck winning wars against the Islamic invasion with gays and trans people crying how unfair everyone is while they get to be intolerant of others. They'll be the first ones to coward in fear while the country gets reduced to ash. I may have had a few moments in my life where I almost became homosexual myself a few times, but that doesn't mean I agree with it either. And I know any society that create a lot of these people on purpose is asking to be destroyed. People love to mention "two consenting adults" if I was going to agree outright with homosexuality I might as well agree with incest also. Shit two consenting siblings can be in love with each other, wouldn't make it normal just because a brother wants to f**k his own flesh and blood sister

[Lucas88]

I know more about this sort of thing than anyone on this forum since I actually have had experience talking to a lot of these people before. And while some men would rather pursue transsexuals. Some of it is just lust or sex related, but they still prefer to date actual women., Thats why there are a lot of guys who hide their faces when they get involved with transgenders because they are ashamed of what they are doing and don't want actual women or other men to know that they are sleeping around with transsexual people. This one Hispanic trans said this about Latino men who try to front being all hetero and masculine (which William is clueless about lol cause he thinks Latino people are so macho they reject all the gay shit and they don't) Truth is Latino men are just as faggoty as any other men and they have feminism in their culture as well.

The guys who go for transsexuals are typically not faggy at all. They are not natural sexual inverts as is the case with many of the effeminate gays but rather regular masculine men who are attracted to women and just happen to have developed an attraction for Tgurls through exposure to them either in real life or on the internet. So transphilic men act just as macho as straight men. In fact some of them are even paradoxically homophobic. They reason that Tgurls look like feminine women and what they are doing is therefore not gay.

This attitude might be even more extreme in Hispanic cultures. Hispanic cultures have a somewhat different conception of homosexuality than Anglo-Saxon cultures do. While Anglos tend to view as homosexual any sexual act between two biological males (including MTF transsexuals), Hispanic cultures seem to follow the Greco-Roman model of homosexuality. According to the Greco-Roman model, only the passive and therefore feminized partner in the sexual act is considered a fag while the active and dominant partner is conversely considered macho. This is why many Latino men have sex with Tgurls in secret and even think that it is a macho thing to do. They see no contradiction between boning a feminine Tgurl and their own tough-guy masculinity. Of course, those same Latino men are forced to hide their attraction to transsexuals because most Latin American countries are still traditional Catholic societies to some degree and many people disapprove of what they do. So they often compensate for their taboo secret through hypermasculine behavior and conspicuous expressions of homophobia.

A Latin American woman who I used to live with when I was in Spain told me that her brother who was in the Ecuadorian military used to f**k effeminate sissies (the term which she used was "maricas"). She speculated that he did it either out of pure horniness or because it made him feel like a big dominant macho man. Anyway, he was f***ing one effeminate sissy in particular and one day this same sissy smiled at him in public and gave him a flirtatious wave. Needless to say that open gesture of affection infuriated my Latin American friend's brother and he beat the shit out of that little effeminate sissy. This guy carried himself like a hypermasculine macho tough guy and was known to be a total womanizer.

I've also heard that a lot of bodybuilders are attracted to Tgurls. The reason for their desire to sleep with Tgurls is that those bodybuilders, who see themselves as the absolute pinnacle of masculinity, are turned on by the idea of being a big alpha male sexually dominating and humiliating a lesser man. But due to their huge masculine bodybuilder egos they could never accept themselves as being gay. So they f**k highly feminized trannies while at the same time living out their fantasies of emasculating lesser dudes.

Just on a visceral intuitive level, a lot of men realize that homosexuality and trans is disgusting. I remember when I was 7... I don't think I'd heard anything about trans or gay or anything like that, but on my 7th birthday, my parents took us out for a movie. This is probably the second one I remember after Star Wars. I remember seeing a Rocky movie was playing, probably Rocky II. But my parents said that wasn't for kids and took me to see an Apple Dumpling Gang movie. I don't remember much about it, but I remember in one scene, the actors disguised themselves as women. I found the sight quite repulsive and off-putting, kind of like the idea of doing gay stuff, except not as gross.

I think either a lot of men are afraid to admit their disgust at the whole topic because of PC/woke culture and criticism from others, etc. Maybe the brainwashing from TV, the education system, movies, and online has really imbedded itself into the thinking of some younger generations. The whole pro-gay things is just as sick as the trans stuff you find repulsive. Maybe you are younger and were brainwashed too young to see it. I read in an academic article that they authors knew of no real evidence for an actual phobia known as 'homophobia,' but I suspect LGBT propagandists use the term to describe this natural, healthy revulsion to homosexual sex and transsexualism.

And while there has been same-sex-sex stuff and trans stuff throughout history, many people within those cultures recognized it as immoral, as in ancient Greece. Also, Chinese traditional culture rejects this type of immorality.

It's also rather damaging to the individuals who engage in such things. Gay men tend to be more prone to suicide, and trans are much worse-- for those who are actually male but trying to be female. In psychological literature, gay men are more likely to delight in flaunting social mores and such. A body of psychological literature was written on this before it became considered immoral to explore such topics in academia.

But yes, I do also consider it immoral because it defies the revealed will of God. As for animals, homosexual behavior is not the norm. We live in a fallen world due to man's sin, and animals are not paragons of virtue. Should humans imitate animals?

What reason do you think that sex acts between consenting adults are necessarily moral?

I myself don't really care about what homosexuals do between consenting adults. I prefer to treat gays with basic human respect and compassion and never make a big deal out of their sexual orientation. I honestly believe that the more effeminate ones -- those who are natural sexual inverts and who are almost like transsexuals (indeed effeminate homosexuality and transsexualism share the same etiology) -- are born that way, cannot help what they are and are simply following their own nature. Even brain scans show that effeminate homosexuals and transsexuals have partially feminized brains. So I see no reason to discriminate against those people. I'd rather treat them kindly because they are simply acting in accordance with their own biological programming and don't really have free will in the matter.

That said, I do believe that a natural and mutually complementary dichotomy of yin and yang characterizes all of creation and that this reflects the natural order. Indeed even many homosexual relationships follow this same sexual dimorphism in which one partner is masculine and the other is feminine. While I'm not disgusted by homosexuals as people and wouldn't have a problem being friendly towards them, I admit that I find the idea of two masculine men having sex with one another disgusting. That's just the way it makes me feel since it goes against the natural yin-yang combination. However, if I were to encounter a masculine man making out with a feminine transsexual, even though the Tgurl is still genetically male it wouldn't disgust me at all. That is because my mind registers the feminine transsexual as the yin element coming together with the yang element of the masculine man.

[WanderingProtagonist]

I know more about this sort of thing than anyone on this forum since I actually have had experience talking to a lot of these people before. And while some men would rather pursue transsexuals. Some of it is just lust or sex related, but they still prefer to date actual women., Thats why there are a lot of guys who hide their faces when they get involved with transgenders because they are ashamed of what they are doing and don't want actual women or other men to know that they are sleeping around with transsexual people. This one Hispanic trans said this about Latino men who try to front being all hetero and masculine (which William is clueless about lol cause he thinks Latino people are so macho they reject all the gay shit and they don't) Truth is Latino men are just as faggoty as any other men and they have feminism in their culture as well.

The guys who go for transsexuals are typically not faggy at all. They are not natural sexual inverts as is the case with many of the effeminate gays but rather regular masculine men who are attracted to women and just happen to have developed an attraction for Tgurls through exposure to them either in real life or on the internet. So transphilic men act just as macho as straight men. In fact some of them are even paradoxically homophobic. They reason that Tgurls look like feminine women and what they are doing is therefore not gay.

This attitude might be even more extreme in Hispanic cultures. Hispanic cultures have a somewhat different conception of homosexuality than Anglo-Saxon cultures do. While Anglos tend to view as homosexual any sexual act between two biological males (including MTF transsexuals), Hispanic cultures seem to follow the Greco-Roman model of homosexuality. According to the Greco-Roman model, only the passive and therefore feminized partner in the sexual act is considered a fag while the active and dominant partner is conversely considered macho. This is why many Latino men have sex with Tgurls in secret and even think that it is a macho thing to do. They see no contradiction between boning a feminine Tgurl and their own tough-guy masculinity. Of course, those same Latino men are forced to hide their attraction to transsexuals because most Latin American countries are still traditional Catholic societies to some degree and many people disapprove of what they do. So they often compensate for their taboo secret through hypermasculine behavior and conspicuous expressions of homophobia.

A Latin American woman who I used to live with when I was in Spain told me that her brother who was in the Ecuadorian military used to f**k effeminate sissies (the term which she used was "maricas"). She speculated that he did it either out of pure horniness or because it made him feel like a big dominant macho man. Anyway, he was f***ing one effeminate sissy in particular and one day this same sissy smiled at him in public and gave him a flirtatious wave. Needless to say that open gesture of affection infuriated my Latin American friend's brother and he beat the shit out of that little effeminate sissy. This guy carried himself like a hypermasculine macho tough guy and was known to be a total womanizer.

I've also heard that a lot of bodybuilders are attracted to Tgurls. The reason for their desire to sleep with Tgurls is that those bodybuilders, who see themselves as the absolute pinnacle of masculinity, are turned on by the idea of being a big alpha male sexually dominating and humiliating a lesser man. But due to their huge masculine bodybuilder egos they could never accept themselves as being gay. So they f**k highly feminized trannies while at the same time living out their fantasies of emasculating lesser dudes.

Just on a visceral intuitive level, a lot of men realize that homosexuality and trans is disgusting. I remember when I was 7... I don't think I'd heard anything about trans or gay or anything like that, but on my 7th birthday, my parents took us out for a movie. This is probably the second one I remember after Star Wars. I remember seeing a Rocky movie was playing, probably Rocky II. But my parents said that wasn't for kids and took me to see an Apple Dumpling Gang movie. I don't remember much about it, but I remember in one scene, the actors disguised themselves as women. I found the sight quite repulsive and off-putting, kind of like the idea of doing gay stuff, except not as gross.

I think either a lot of men are afraid to admit their disgust at the whole topic because of PC/woke culture and criticism from others, etc. Maybe the brainwashing from TV, the education system, movies, and online has really imbedded itself into the thinking of some younger generations. The whole pro-gay things is just as sick as the trans stuff you find repulsive. Maybe you are younger and were brainwashed too young to see it. I read in an academic article that they authors knew of no real evidence for an actual phobia known as 'homophobia,' but I suspect LGBT propagandists use the term to describe this natural, healthy revulsion to homosexual sex and transsexualism.

And while there has been same-sex-sex stuff and trans stuff throughout history, many people within those cultures recognized it as immoral, as in ancient Greece. Also, Chinese traditional culture rejects this type of immorality.

It's also rather damaging to the individuals who engage in such things. Gay men tend to be more prone to suicide, and trans are much worse-- for those who are actually male but trying to be female. In psychological literature, gay men are more likely to delight in flaunting social mores and such. A body of psychological literature was written on this before it became considered immoral to explore such topics in academia.

But yes, I do also consider it immoral because it defies the revealed will of God. As for animals, homosexual behavior is not the norm. We live in a fallen world due to man's sin, and animals are not paragons of virtue. Should humans imitate animals?

What reason do you think that sex acts between consenting adults are necessarily moral?

I myself don't really care about what homosexuals do between consenting adults. I prefer to treat gays with basic human respect and compassion and never make a big deal out of their sexual orientation. I honestly believe that the more effeminate ones -- those who are natural sexual inverts and who are almost like transsexuals (indeed effeminate homosexuality and transsexualism share the same etiology) -- are born that way, cannot help what they are and are simply following their own nature. Even brain scans show that effeminate homosexuals and transsexuals have partially feminized brains. So I see no reason to discriminate against those people. I'd rather treat them kindly because they are simply acting in accordance with their own biological programming and don't really have free will in the matter.

That said, I do believe that a natural and mutually complementary dichotomy of yin and yang characterizes all of creation and that this reflects the natural order. Indeed even many homosexual relationships follow this same sexual dimorphism in which one partner is masculine and the other is feminine. While I'm not disgusted by homosexuals as people and wouldn't have a problem being friendly towards them, I admit that I find the idea of two masculine men having sex with one another disgusting. That's just the way it makes me feel since it goes against the natural yin-yang combination. However, if I were to encounter a masculine man making out with a feminine transsexual, even though the Tgurl is still genetically male it wouldn't disgust me at all. That is because my mind registers the feminine transsexual as the yin element coming together with the yang element of the masculine man.

The word "homophobe" is bullshit, a word the government made up. Hell even the pedophile ones use that word now. Same thing with transphobe. Nobody fears these people, they're just sick and tired of them. Especially since they act like they are so damn important that everyone must be tolerant of who they are while they get to freely be intolerant of others themselves. I don't see heterosexual people running around demanding the world to be tolerant of them. I honestly have no interest in giving everyone "human rights" just because they managed to con the world into believing they should be given rights based on whatever the f**k it is they want to identify as. Men like transsexuals because they like dick, plain and simple. There is a reason why the ones that still have male genitalia are sought after more than the ones that had their dicks removed.

Hell even a gay person will call you a fag, this isn't something that only straight people say because "you are a homophobe". In the porn industry Post-Op trangenders are fully aware that if they get rid of their dicks, they will be unpopular and not too many people will be into that post op stuff. They will have to compete with real women. Because no man is going to want to watch that stuff even women don't want to see it. Just like the weird ass female to male stuff where the "guy" has body hair and a female part. That shit is gross looking as hell, even worse if they ever got pregnant and the kid has to deal with the fact a person that looks like a man who has a p***y just gave birth to them and identifies as a man. I would be traumatized if I found out a "man" gave birth to me. Like what the hell?

I'm also not going to sit here and believe that all these trans people in the world were born a certain way and can't help it. Most men want to be women because they fear being men, don't want the responsibility that we men must take up while women get to deny any responsibility at all, they don't have what it takes to be men and want special privileges like women, the same privileges they see women with where they can just do whatever they want without any accountability and then rub it in your face if you tried to challenge them. That's why some of them will use their trans status to avoid military service because women are allowed to do the same thing.

It's why you are also seeing a lot of these transgenders commit serious crimes nowadays especially in the West that over protects them because they know they won't get sent to a prison where they will be surrounded by men. In a men prison they will be prey for predators. But instead they get sent to women prisons where they get to be the predator that abuse and assault women that are helpless up against them. There were a lot of women inmates that actually complained about this, even women police officers felt threaten and uncomfortable having to deal with transgender felons and inmates despite being armed.

It's why they partake in women sports because they know they will automatically dominate the competition. The fact is, people shouldn't be forcing people to be tolerant of certain people if they don't want to be. Using words like "phobe" is something I find very annoying especially since homosexual people are notorious for acting like a "phobe" toward heterosexual people, that's the whole reason why they desperately want to convert everyone to be them and why some countries are smart enough to just out right reject them. I'm sure parents in Russia don't want to see their kids being groomed into that shit. Hell they'll even call parents homophobic or transphobic for being against them trying to groom their goddamn kids. The fact is, gays to me are no different than all the other "special" groups out there making demands.

Gay and transgender kids/teenagers shouldn't even exist, but they do because of gays and trans people groomed them into that followed by idiot parents that want to follow popular trends. Many years ago fewer and fewer young people even identified as any of those things, but they do now because of grooming. At the end of the day, a society full of homosexuals and transgender people isn't a society I want to be part of. No matter how attractive I still find some of those transgenders and even if I did ended up involved with one out of desperation I still wouldn't want them taking over society and every aspect of life like they do now. When shit hits the fan, and the tough gets going. They'll be the first to use their status to avoid being useful. I remember several men in South Korea trying to do this, and the same thing happened in another Asian country where transgenders were expected to enlist, they would try to use their trans status to get out of it since women were expected to not enlist. No country should have force enlistment, but the fact is if someone identify as a woman they are exempt from serving while everyone else dies so they can sit around comfortably bitching about how phobic, cruel, unfair the world is to them.

Just because a person may have come across a few "tough" homosexuals and there are stories of trans thai boxers/tranny mma fighters (who only beat up on women but would get their heads knocked off if they went up against 50 year old Mike tyson), they still wouldn't benefit society. Societies thrived because of honorable, spiritual, and strong men with strong values and principals and none of those men were Gay, allies of gays or transgender. All the greatest warriors throughout history were heterosexual men that married emotionally strong women that helped them raise healthy strong heterosexual sons that carried on their legacy. They weren't grooming their kids to be the most hottest homo, queer, and tranny in town. They didn't have pride parades treating the most useless people of society as if they are to be celebrated all because they pretend to be shit they aren't and f**k the same sex.

What I do know is that decaying societies like America that's controlled by glomohomo as they are called is a f***ing failure and a mess. If gays and trans people were so important they would get off their sorry weak asses and fix San Fransisco instead of standing around protesting women's "rights" to murder defenseless babies outside of churches and being abusive pricks that exploit laws that let them get away with whatever they want while still hollering at the world for being "intolerant."

What I can say is that I would never deny my own sexuality. A lot of people are just closet homos living in fear and shame of who and what they really are. People try to blame this shit on society like it's society fault "Well if only everyone accepted them," No f**k that. Accepting them isn't going to do anything but put more thoughts into their minds that they need more and more rights, They already forced the churches to violate their own laws, beliefs, and principals since they have zero at all respect for people's religious beliefs. Now they believe they have a right to do what they want to other peoples kids or else the parent is a phobe if they deny them the "right."

If I was dating transgenders or having sex with them either due to desperation or just because I was "experimenting". I wouldn't be calling myself a heterosexual man anymore especially if I was going after the ones that still had a dick vs Post-Ops trans but those fake vagina's scare me, and there is no way in hell I'm sticking my junk into one of those. Transgenderism is a mental illness, it's only become acceptable because it's forced on the masses. Men aren't women and women aren't men, some trans people understand this and will admit it themselves but they are very few compared to the ones who demand you to actually believe they are one of the other genders or else you are a phobe if you don't. People trying to identify as something they are not is lying and bullshitting. It's like someone bleaching their skin because they want to be white. There was a black woman that did that because she resented being black so bad she wanted to be white, so she got her skinned bleached and only dated white men, that's why I laughed when my grandmother said "But your ass is still a negro!"

[flowerthief00]

For starters the United States is getting there if they don't get rid of these democrats. You can move to San Fransisco if you want to see what a fallen society looks like up close. Homosexuals and trans people were free to rule that city like Queens and Kings and now look at it. No society is going to benefit from having a huge gay population, NONE.

Woah, slow down there with them slippery slopes!

The United States empire like the Roman Empire is crumbling for multiple reasons. Surely the gays aren't to blame for the out-of-control spending and money printing leading to currency devaluation, as one example.

Just like Japan won't benefit from having a lot of herbivore men that will eventually be their downfall if they don't do something about it. Homosexuality creates weak men, homosexuals don't raise strong kids either they abuse them, especially the ones here in the U.S. That's why we have so many leftist bitches now running around this country acting the way they act, and they even supported the abortions as well.

Will the herbivore "movement" be the downfall of Japan? Society at large may not be benefitting from it, but that alone does not imply downfall.

All Empires fall from shit decisions. Homosexuality is a shit decision to impose on your entire country, but good luck winning wars against the Islamic invasion with gays and trans people crying how unfair everyone is while they get to be intolerant of others. They'll be the first ones to coward in fear while the country gets reduced to ash. I may have had a few moments in my life where I almost became homosexual myself a few times, but that doesn't mean I agree with it either. And I know any society that create a lot of these people on purpose is asking to be destroyed.

Firstly, US might is build around technology rather than size of the army, so it doesn't matter anyway. Who cares if a portion of the population wants to be gay.

Secondly, homosexuals *are* allowed to serve in the military, so we as a society do believe they can be effective combatants.

Thirdly, even were it true that homosexuals were ineffective combatants, gays will never convince more than a small fraction of the population to be like them. The heterosexual impulse is much too strong in most people.

People love to mention "two consenting adults" if I was going to agree outright with homosexuality I might as well agree with incest also. Shit two consenting siblings can be in love with each other, wouldn't make it normal just because a brother wants to f**k his own flesh and blood sister

One thing homosexuality and incest has in common is that because evolution does not favor it, most people have a natural revulsion to engaging in both behaviors themselves. You don't have to worry that any more than a small minority of the population ever will.

[Lucas88]

The word "homophobe" is bullshit, a word the government made up. Hell even the pedophile ones use that word now. Same thing with transphobe. Nobody fears these people, they're just sick and tired of them. Especially since they act like they are so damn important that everyone must be tolerant of who they are while they get to freely be intolerant of others themselves. I don't see heterosexual people running around demanding the world to be tolerant of them. I honestly have no interest in giving everyone "human rights" just because they managed to con the world into believing they should be given rights based on whatever the f**k it is they want to identify as. Men like transsexuals because they like dick, plain and simple. There is a reason why the ones that still have male genitalia are sought after more than the ones that had their dicks removed. It's because men that desire the ones with dicks are straight up fags.

I don't think that concepts such as homophobia and transphobia are completely bullshit. If somebody who hates gays or trannies purposely goes out to physically or verbally attack some of them or needlessly provokes them in a public place then that could be legitimately considered homophobic or transphobic since the sole reason for their attack or provocation is because the victim is either gay or trans. These kinds of situations do really happen too since we live in a society populated by volatile political fanatics of all kinds. Obviously in a country which is supposed to be governed by the rule of law there must be legal protection for gays and trans people too.

I do agree however that nowadays terms such as "homophobia" and "transphobia" have been completely abused and even weaponized against heterosexuals of a more traditional bent. The LGBT "activists" are given an inch and then ask for a mile and are never satisfied with the rights that they are given. That's because they program which the push is an agenda designed for the subversion of society.

Are you sure that all men who like transsexuals like them just because they have dicks? Don't you think that some transphilic guys could have other motives?

There are undoubtedly some guys who are into pre-op transsexuals because they want to suck cock and be f***ed themselves. Indeed the GAMP (gynandromorphophile) study which looked into shemale attraction found that about half of the men who were attracted primarily to shemales were autogynephilic and wished to become trannies themselves and therefore sought to be penetrated by shemales in order to live out their feminization fantasies.

But there are also other guys who simply find Tgirls more attractive and more relatable than women. They become conditioned by shemale porn and end up being desensitized to the idea of a chick with a dick and even come to see it as normal. Then there are the macho guys who get off on the idea of dominating and humiliating a feminized lesser man as I mentioned in my previous post. Those guys are not necessarily into shemale dicks but rather the feeling of power and alpha male domination. Finally there is a minority of trans-oriented men who are primarily attracted to post-op Tgurls. Those guys find them more attractive than women but can't tolerate dicks at all. So a post-op Tgurl becomes their logical object of attraction. Some post-op admirers might even have fantasies about feminizing another dude, especially one who is an effeminate gayboy. Unless you actually look at the sexological literature on things like paraphilias you have no idea of the extent of what kinds of outlandish things some people get off to!

Just out of curiosity, @WanderingProtagonist, what kind of Tgurls were you attracted to or considered dating? Were they pre-ops or post-ops?

I don't think that it's as simple as saying trans-oriented guys just like dick because they are fags.

I'm also not going to sit here and believe that all these trans people in the world were born a certain way and can't help it. Most men want to be women because they fear being men, they don't have what it takes to be men and want special privileges like women, the same privileges they see women with where they can just do whatever they want without responsibility and then rub it in your face if you tried to challenge them. That's why some of them will use their trans status to avoid military service because women are allowed to do the same shit. It's why your seeing a lot of these transgenders commit serious crimes nowadays because they know they won't get sent to a prison where they will be surrounded by men, instead they get sent to women prisons where they get to abuse and assault women that are helpless up against them.

Not all trans people are born that way. The available clinical data and theories (e.g., Blanchard) show that there are two major etiologies for transsexualism: 1) homosexual transsexualism (i.e., natural sexual inversion); and 2) autogynephilia (i.e., transvestic fetishism and feminization fantasies).

The HSTS are born that way and display partial feminization of the brain even prior to hormone therapy. They are the true transsexuals and include the attractive feminine ones who you find on escort websites and who often look physically indistinguishable from natal women.

The AGP types are weird fetishist guys who are primarily attracted to women but also wish to be women themselves (i.e., they want to become the object of their sexual attraction). They normally start out with crossdressing but their feminization fantasies spiral out of control and they end up taking hormones and getting surgeries. AGPs are rarely even feminine and look like caricatures of women. Many of them have that gross trainwreck androgynous SJW look and indeed the bulk of today's "transactivist" movement consists of AGP fetishists who demand that their fetish is recognized as "womanhood".

What you say about some men becoming trans in order to receive female privileges is true. There is even an incel movement on the internet called "transmaxxing". Transmaxxers are a subset of AGP men who seek to become trans because they deem that their situation as bottom-tier men is hopeless and believe that they would enjoy a much better life if they followed their AGP fantasies and became "women". Most of them become "trans-lesbians" and date women or other trans-lesbians while the more bisexual ones even date guys too. Transmaxxers have a subreddit where they talk about incel topics and their own sissy fantasies and exchange information on how to obtain hormones and begin transition. Some of them actually go through with it and post pictures of their post-transition selves and write testimonies of how their lives got better once they eschewed their manhood and accepted a life of transgenderism.

I'd estimate that in the current US the split between HSTS (true Tgurls) and AGP fetishists is about 30/70. The aggressive LGBT movement is encouraging more of the fetishist types to come out of the closet and pursue actual transition.

Gay and transgender kids shouldn't even exist, but they do because of gays and trans people groomed them into that followed by idiot parents that want to follow popular trends. At the end of the day, a society full of homosexuals and transgender people isn't a society I want to be part of. No matter how attractive I still find some of those transgenders and even if I did ended up involved with one out of desperation I still wouldn't want them taking over society and every aspect of life like they do now. When shit hits the fan, and the tough gets going. They'll be the first to use their status to avoid being useful.

Just because a person may have come across a few "tough" homosexuals and there are stories of trans thai boxers/tranny mma fighters (who only beat up on women but would get their heads knocked off if they went up against 50 year old Mike tyson), they still wouldn't benefit society. Societies thrived because of honorable, spiritual, and strong men with strong values and principals and none of those men were Gay or transgender. All the greatest warriors throughout history were heterosexual men that raised strong heterosexual sons that carried on their legacy. That's the truth. Decaying societies like America that's controlled by glomohomo as they are called is a f***ing failure and a mess. If gays and trans people were so important they would get off their asses and fix San Fransisco instead of standing around protesting women's "rights" to murder defenseless babies and shit.

All societies around the world have a small population of true transsexuals (HSTS) who display effeminate traits from a young age and adopt a feminine gender role as soon as they are old enough to understand. I'm of the view that those people should be tolerated and allowed to integrate into society. They are harmless.

The problem in the US and Western Europe is the LGBT movement is made up primarily of all of the fanatics and mentally ill weirdos who want to push all kinds of sexual degeneracy even on children. The movement is not only a detriment to society but also to more moderate gays and transsexuals who are now on the receiving end of the rightwing backlash against the movement's perverse ideologies. There are many gays, lesbians, bisexuals and Tgurls who hate the LGBT agenda too. Some of them just want to be left alone and don't want their sexual orientation and lifestyle to be politicized by a vocal minority of fanatical fruitcakes.