The Right is Winning The Culture War In America

[Outcast9428]

A survey was released that shows what political ideology people in America have supported from 2017 to 2022 and found that the percentage of people who identified as some kind of liberal dropped from 34% in 2017 to 27% in 2022. Simultaneously the percentage of people identifying as very conservative or conservative rose from 26% in 2017 to 30% in 2022. Most notably, the most dramatic drop in support for leftism came from young people who’s support dropped from 47% in 2017 to 34% in 2022. The percentage of conservatives among young people seems to have grown by 2%-3%.

This means among young white people now, conservatism is equally competitive with leftism and with liberalism. Most young people became political moderates (aka, liberals) but some people still shifted their views to true conservatism.

Although it is not showing the precise numbers, the percentage of young white people identifying as “very conservative” has absolutely exploded. Going from what looks to be about 6% of young white people in 2017 to well what looks to be about 12% by 2022. That is a literal doubling of the prevalence of very conservative views among young white people.

https://morningconsult.com/2022/08/18/a ... servative/

Anger towards sexual liberalism among young people has definitely grown dramatically. In 2017, young people thought it was cool to dislike both the left and the right. It seems more and more young people are abandoning right leaning liberalism in favor of neo-traditionalism.

[Cornfed]

It is interesting in that the alt-right as an emergent political movement really was destroyed by the bad guys, but on the other hand it sowed enough seeds that it is becoming the main non-NPC position.

[Outcast9428]

You'd have to be delusional to actually believe this. The U.S. is becoming less traditional and more woke and feminist every single year. White people are now a minority in basically every major part of the U.S. except for old people so it doesn't really matter how conservative they are because there are less of them compared to other groups.

Dude, get out of San Francisco please and see what the rest of the country looks like. A couple weeks ago I literally had a co-worker of mine talking about the Jews, saying they owned all the media and the big banks and businesses. Nobody was talking about this kind of stuff five years ago.

We are literally living in an age where 1/3 of America has banned abortion, something no country in Europe does except for Poland and Hungary. Where CNN and Netflix are firing their woke staff members and cancelling woke them shows, where Elon Musk is stripping Twitter away from leftist control, even Saturday Night Live is becoming less woke. I never thought I’d see the day that the CEO of CNN wants the respect of Republicans again. Fox News gets more and more based, and every survey I’ve seen says Americans are, on average, moving to the right and dramatically away from the left… And all you can do is complain? Dude, this year is the greatest year the American right has had in like 60 years.

[gsjackson]

Dude, this year is the greatest year the American right has had in like 60 years.

Since 1984, I'd say. You make good points, but for those of us who have been around for a while it's depressing to see the same victories of reaction against cultural Marxism we've been having since the presidential election season of 1968, but each time it's just ratcheting up a little bit from an increasingly debased culture. To use Sen. Moynihan's expression from the '70s, deviancy is continually defined downward and the best that conservative reaction can do is raise the needle up a bit temporarily. At the high school where I work in a conservative part of Texas you see boys going around in makeup and more public displays of affection between lesbians than between heterosexual couples. Utterly unthinkable in 1968.

As was the obesity and general slothfulness in personal presentation that you see now even among these young people. The physical, mental and spiritual health of Americans has been under assault for decades now, and you wonder how such profoundly damaged people (who really seem like a majority at this point) can fit into a God/truth-centered society.

[fschmidt]

You'd have to be delusional to actually believe this. The U.S. is becoming less traditional and more woke and feminist every single year. White people are now a minority in basically every major part of the U.S. except for old people so it doesn't really matter how conservative they are because there are less of them compared to other groups.

Correct. The new Right, and the alt-right, are bullshit, not traditional conservatism. They chant "U S A" and "America First". They love slogans but do nothing. They support Trump, a narcissistic piece of shit. And they do nothing traditional. They don't go to church. They don't form stable families. Americans across the political spectrum are moronic scum.

[Outcast9428]

Dude, this year is the greatest year the American right has had in like 60 years.

Since 1984, I'd say. You make good points, but for those of us who have been around for a while it's depressing to see the same victories of reaction against cultural Marxism we've been having since the presidential election season of 1968, but each time it's just ratcheting up a little bit from an increasingly debased culture. To use Sen. Moynihan's expression from the '70s, deviancy is continually defined downward and the best that conservative reaction can do is raise the needle up a bit temporarily. At the high school where I work in a conservative part of Texas you see boys going around in makeup and more public displays of affection between lesbians than between heterosexual couples. Utterly unthinkable in 1968.

As was the obesity and general slothfulness in personal presentation that you see now even among these young people. The physical, mental and spiritual health of Americans has been under assault for decades now, and you wonder how such profoundly damaged people (who really seem like a majority at this point) can fit into a God/truth-centered society.

I’ve seen the lesbian shit but boys in makeup? Wtf? I would never let my future son walk out the house looking like that.

We are definitely nowhere near 1968 but I’d like to think we’ve gone a little closer to that now.

[Outcast9428]

Before counting this as a victory lets see if the renewed vigor for right wing ideology amongst young people translates to a significant rise in the birth rate with this same group. That is where the future is truly decided: in the bedroom. One or two or even three kids a couple won't quite cut it. But if young conservatives are smart they can breed out the enemy as liberalism as essentially a sterile death cult, just like MGTOW and feminism.

That is the biggest reason why I think leftism is doomed to fail. When anti-natalism actually becomes a big part of your ideology, you are basically committing ideological suicide. I think this is why young people are becoming more conservative because the conservatives, increasingly, are the only people actually breeding anymore and we are just now feeling the effects of that with the hardline conservatism we are seeing from a lot of Gen Z. Oh well, never stop an enemy from making a mistake. I feel like on some level, leftists know that they shouldn’t be breeding as harsh as that sounds.

We need to wage reproductive warfare on the left .

[Outcast9428]

You'd have to be delusional to actually believe this. The U.S. is becoming less traditional and more woke and feminist every single year. White people are now a minority in basically every major part of the U.S. except for old people so it doesn't really matter how conservative they are because there are less of them compared to other groups.

Correct. The new Right, and the alt-right, are bullshit, not traditional conservatism. They chant "U S A" and "America First". They love slogans but do nothing. They support Trump, a narcissistic piece of shit. And they do nothing traditional. They don't go to church. They don't form stable families. Americans across the political spectrum are moronic scum.

The alt right is not really attacking traditionalist conservatism as it is attacking neocons. If anything the alt right was basically an attempt to restore and mainstreamize paleoconservatism (the American version of traditionalist conservatism).

At this point though the alt right is pretty much just… The right. Neocons are widely despised and seen for the fake conservatives that they are. Trump isn’t perfect but at least he is willing to go nuclear on the deep state and ended the Republican Party’s history of being obsessive warmongers. Nowadays the Democrats seem more warmongerish then the Republicans.

[galii]

You'd have to be delusional to actually believe this. The U.S. is becoming less traditional and more woke and feminist every single year. White people are now a minority in basically every major part of the U.S. except for old people so it doesn't really matter how conservative they are because there are less of them compared to other groups.

Correct. The new Right, and the alt-right, are bullshit, not traditional conservatism. They chant "U S A" and "America First". They love slogans but do nothing. They support Trump, a narcissistic piece of shit. And they do nothing traditional. They don't go to church. They don't form stable families. Americans across the political spectrum are moronic scum.

The alt right is not really attacking traditionalist conservatism as it is attacking neocons. If anything the alt right was basically an attempt to restore and mainstreamize paleoconservatism (the American version of traditionalist conservatism).

At this point though the alt right is pretty much just… The right. Neocons are widely despised and seen for the fake conservatives that they are. Trump isn’t perfect but at least he is willing to go nuclear on the deep state and ended the Republican Party’s history of being obsessive warmongers. Nowadays the Democrats seem more warmongerish then the Republicans.

Most new immigrants are not woke. So things will change

[fschmidt]

If anything the alt right was basically an attempt to restore and mainstreamize paleoconservatism (the American version of traditionalist conservatism).

I see no evidence of this.

At this point though the alt right is pretty much just… The right.

There is the alt-right, neocons, Jewish Right, and Christian Right. The alt-right is the loudest and least important.

Trump isn’t perfect but at least he is willing to go nuclear on the deep state and ended the Republican Party’s history of being obsessive warmongers.

Trump took no meaningful action against the deep state. (Mean tweets don't count.) Trump murdered Soleimani and failed to withdraw from Syria or Afghanistan. Basically Trump did nothing but post tweets.

[fschmidt]

Most new immigrants are not woke. So things will change

The new immigrants are asleep morons. So things will change in a third world direction.

[dl7]

I think here is some reaction by the American people against wokeness. I am.sure many ordinary Americans see the insanity of transitioning children. I am not optimistic that that the right is truly winning the culture war. There have been so.many changes during my 48 years.

[TechnoTristan]

Of course we're gonna win. We got the guns!

Trump for president 2024. Make it happen folks! Let's take our country back from Biden and those vile marxist assholes!