Why I Believe In Being Optimistic

[Outcast9428]

I’ve been getting a decent amount of criticism lately from more blackpilled right wingers for being “excessively optimistic” and saying that I’m exaggerating the extent to which we are winning the culture war.

The fact is though, I feel like we have to be optimistic because if we choose to be blackpilled we are essentially giving up and throwing in the towel. I don’t think all hope is lost yet, especially with the number of legal victories we have scored. The change now compared to three years ago may not be dramatic and obvious yet but I can definitely see some change. The Republicans are finally fighting back and that’s what matters. We may not have won over the culture as a whole yet but at least the Republicans are actively trying to win now instead of passively accepting liberalism as inevitable. I hope to see more legislative victories in the coming year and I hope some of these victories will be enough of a white pill to motivate people to believe our culture can still be saved.

[fschmidt]

There is a clear divide in this forum among the more negative and more optimistic posters. The more negative, pessimistic takes all come from men like Cornfed, Mercer and others who are perpetually single and childless. Whereas men like me and MrMan, or you yourself, all have partners and are fathers, or in your case, future fathers. You're a man in love. Living a traditional life, or a close approximation of one. You're close to your old folks, siblings, friends and so forth. Your life is very 1950s, Peanuts, old school stuff right now and other people simply don't have that.

On which side of the divide am I?

By the way, I recently changed my mind about exterminating modern scum. I now think most of humanity should be exterminated. I would exclude traditional Anabaptists, highly rated Go players, and Arkians. That is about 1M out of 8B people meaning that I would like to exterminate 99.9875% of modern humanity. That would include everyone on this forum except me. Nothing personal.

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[Outcast9428]

@fschmidt and @Mercer Your purity spiraling is not helping anything. The world isn’t perfect, people are not perfect. We do what we can to make the world better by following reasonable standards. If you can reach higher then reasonable standards suggest you should like MrMan did then that is noble but I’m not going to attack someone or expect people do more then a reasonable standard suggests they should.

@MarcosZeitola Yeah, I agree if I had no girl in my life I wouldn’t be as optimistic. I still had hope though before I found my girlfriend and I was trying to find somebody no matter what I had to do.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

Being an optimist in this world is similar to being insane or being on drugs.
I am more of a realist by the way, so I am in the middle.

[galii]

If the world is so bad why do these complainers don't self delete themselves?
So maybe anyone who does not do the self deletion is actually an optimist in a weird way.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

@MarcosZeitola

fschmidt seems like a misanthrope with interest in Eugenics? to me..
I am more of a cynical realist who is born on the wrong planet and is along the ride. I have landed on the wrong server in MMORPG called Earth.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

@MarcosZeitola

Thanks. I hope your endeavors goes well.. whatever your doing. You have an interesting outlook.

Korean society doesn't really accept cynics or free thinkers. It's especially brutal towards South East Asians for some reason..I don't condone. I hate when they do that! Filipinos are some the nicest people you can ever find.

I think Koreans should learn from Filipinos in living a more fulfilling lives. A life of a typical Korean is filled with anger, stress, paranoia, jealously,
and no time to relax. I have a bit of a latino soul too. I would be happier if I was a Spaniard or Italian instead of Korean. They certainly know how to enjoy life.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

@MarcosZeitola

I agree. What's the point of getting status and wealth when you can't take them with you in the after life?

[fschmidt]

You aren't on the divide at all; you're in a category of your own entirely, @fschmidt and you always will be.

Yes, thank you.

The criticisms from each side of the divide against the other side are all correct. The negative posters are correct that the optimists are degenerates. And the optimists are correct that the negative posters are worthless losers because they have given up.

[Outcast9428]

@fschmidt What could people like @MrMan, myself, @Natural_Born_Cynic @MarcosZeitola and several others on this forum have possibly done or said that makes you think we are worthy of being killed? I don’t think any of us have really done anything to harass you personally. Do you just want to kill every single person who mildly disagrees with you on something?

I mean jeez, if there’s one thing we should learn from the moral necessity of HA thread it’s that while most of us here are pretty hardline traditionalists… We definitely all have different ideas on where to be more strict and where to be more loose/forgiving. You’re never gonna find someone who agrees with you 100% on everything.

Even my best friend and I. We agree on almost everything but he is much further to the right on racial issues then I am. MrMan and I are in agreement on almost everything but he’s less authoritarian then I am, less hard right on racial issues, but further to the right on LGBT issues and more strict about premarital sex. MarcosZeitola and I agree on a lot but he’s less strict on sexual issues and has a bit of a different idea on what proper masculine behavior is. Natural Born Cynic and I agree on almost everything but I have a more optimistic perspective and a better opinion of East Asian countries then he does.

Everybody’s a little bit different but ultimately we all pretty much want the same thing… The defeat of feminism and a return to the morality and social norms of the past. I suppose we disagree slightly on what needs to be emphasized, how authentically certain cultures are to that dream, and what the best method is of bringing that about. But all of us are trying to make society better in the best way that we know how to do that.

So why do we deserve to die?

[fschmidt]

So why do we deserve to die?

No one deserves death more than the current conservatives of modern culture. I much prefer the woke liberals because they are helping to accelerate the demise of modern culture. The negative posters here are killing their own gene lines by themselves, so actually there is little need to kill them. But the conservatives are working to preserve the fundamentally evil irredeemable modern culture of the West. This culture is dysgenic and the conservatives are doing nothing to reverse this. In fact the conservatives fight for dysgenic causes like outlawing abortion and prostitution, while doing nothing about the most dysgenic aspects of modern culture like female promiscuity. So in fact conservatives are by far the most dysgenic force in the world today, so they most certainly deserve to die.

[fschmidt]

Yeah, we're not entirely on the same page in every way but we're close enough. And you are one of the few members of this forum who puts his money where his mouth is. I respect @fschmidt actually for being the same way; he seems like a man who "walks the walk" because he, too, is a married family man with a Latina wife and he has grown children. So much like MrMan, he has done his part. However I believe the extreme nature of his views could hinder him in successfully implementing his ideal image of society; after all, one cannot build up a new society from scratch all alone. Fschmidt having only had two children, doesn't really have a large enough social and genetic footprint to "cleanse" humanity. He's just... another drop in the ocean. Whereas your own impact, Outcast, can be much larger if you and your future wife-to-be have like six or more kids. That'd make a large impact on the future especially when you manage to help your friends get wives of their own and they do the same. You could turn a ripple into a wave.

Whose genes will be more successful, a man who has zero children but creates a culture that is conducive to the success of his genes, or a man who has a hundred children in world where all cultures are hostile to his genes? The answer is the first man because his genes do exist in other people and those genes will find their way to his culture and will prosper there. The second man with the hundred children will simply have his genes gradually selected out over the generations.

All current cultures are hostile to my genes. In the West, the only possible way I could reproduce would be by kidnapping a woman and keeping her hostage. Outside the West, I can reproduce through marriage but I have no real advantage over the native population, so my genes would just fade away. Only in a culture where intelligence and morality are selected for can my genes prosper.

[fschmidt]

I do hope your Arkian society takes off. If it doesn't, I wonder how you'll ensure your own children won't be scum, too. Unless they will join those Anabaptist communities you love so much and marry into one?

My son has already agreed to only marry an Arkian. Since women are herd animals, I don't expect my daughter to support the Arkian concept until I can establish a small herd. I plan to move to PA this summer and start working on that. My greatest hope is to make it work in mosques. If this succeeds, I hope I can get my kids to support the concept and also work in mosques to spread the Arkian idea.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

I do hope your Arkian society takes off. If it doesn't, I wonder how you'll ensure your own children won't be scum, too. Unless they will join those Anabaptist communities you love so much and marry into one?

My son has already agreed to only marry an Arkian. Since women are herd animals, I don't expect my daughter to support the Arkian concept until I can establish a small herd. I plan to move to PA this summer and start working on that. My greatest hope is to make it work in mosques. If this succeeds, I hope I can get my kids to support the concept and also work in mosques to spread the Arkian idea.

Ok! Good luck building your new "Master Race". We'll see in a hundred years or so.

[Outcast9428]

So why do we deserve to die?

No one deserves death more than the current conservatives of modern culture. I much prefer the woke liberals because they are helping to accelerate the demise of modern culture. The negative posters here are killing their own gene lines by themselves, so actually there is little need to kill them. But the conservatives are working to preserve the fundamentally evil irredeemable modern culture of the West. This culture is dysgenic and the conservatives are doing nothing to reverse this. In fact the conservatives fight for dysgenic causes like outlawing abortion and prostitution, while doing nothing about the most dysgenic aspects of modern culture like female promiscuity. So in fact conservatives are by far the most dysgenic force in the world today, so they most certainly deserve to die.

Outlawing abortion is doing something very significant about female promiscuity… It is enforcing negative consequences as well as fear of negative consequences on female promiscuity. Nobody is really making a move to be stricter on prostitution. The law is the same as it has ever been.

Everything we are doing is intended to reverse the cultural decline but simply walking around expressing our opinions isn’t really going to help much when we’re the minority of the country. The only thing that will actually reverse the decline are laws that punish bad behavior which is finally what the conservatives are trying to do now.