Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑March 8th, 2023, 8:34 am
Tsar wrote: ↑March 8th, 2023, 7:41 am
GerardButler wrote: ↑March 8th, 2023, 1:20 am
Lol, someone must have "hacked" @Tsar account now that he is team PAG

you're running out of excuses for all my popularity.
What's truly unfortunate is that you continue to demonstrate that you are an out-of-touch incel by commenting on the appearance of women. Females can only achieve the statuses of unattractive, attractive, or very attractive, which has a lot to do with cosmetic illusion.
No one "hacked" my account. I think that anyone willing to make videos and share them is much more confident than average.
If you're referring to my comments about girls, I disagree. Most beauty is not relative. Beauty is more complicated. What does a plain girl classify? Unattractive or attractive? Plain is neither.
However, I can see why people would prefer a simpler way to rank it. It makes any achievement seem greater. Beauty is both art and math.
I agree with you. @GerardButler beauty is more complex than the simplistic explanation you offered. Check out my thread on Aesthetics and how important they are.
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Hmm, beauty is the symbol of morality? This is so ridiculously absurd that I can't breathe. Obviously you're not well-read. First off, not only do standard moral commitments lack a foundation we thought they had, but stripped of their veneer of unquestionable authority, they prove to have been not just baseless but positively harmful. Unfortunately, the moralization of our lives has insidiously attached itself to genuine psychological needs—some basic to our condition, others cultivated by the conditions of life under morality—so its corrosive effects cannot simply be removed without further psychological damage. Still worse, the damaging side of morality has implanted itself within us in the form of a genuine self-understanding, making it hard for us to imagine ourselves living any other way. Thus, as Nietzsche says, we are faced with a difficult, long term restoration project in which the most cherished aspects of our way of life must be ruthlessly investigated, dismantled, and then reconstructed in healthier form—all while we continue somehow to sail the ship of our common ethical life on the high seas.
Human existence is both light and dark, and the majority of art or beauty is a deception required to make our existence bearable. We can only truly understand beauty and joy if we have experienced "ugliness" and hardship first. This is because beauty and joy are qualitative experiences, and cannot be completely comprehended without first experiencing the other.
Beauty is false, truth ugly.
The essence of human existence is suffering. This pain and suffering provide the impetus for growth and development, as it forces us to confront our limitations and appreciate our strengths. In fact, embracing suffering is one of the most important things we can do to overcome our difficulties and achieve true happiness. Nietzsche saw suffering as a sign of progress, something that makes people stronger and more determined. He believed that suffering is an essential part of life and that it can lead to growth and understanding.
For Nietzsche, life is about struggle, overcoming obstacles, and becoming stronger. Suffering is seen as a part of life, something that makes us stronger and helps us grow. It is not something to be avoided or escaped from. He believes that without suffering, humans would not be able to achieve their highest potential. Nietzsche argues that those who are able to endure the worst possible pain without losing their nerve and becoming weak, are the most creative.
The Overman is someone who has overcome suffering and achieved happiness, a state of peace and tranquility. He does not try to avoid suffering or seek pleasure at the expense of others. In his philosophy, there are no such things as moral imperatives.
However, Nietzsche did not believe that all pain and suffering were beneficial. He felt that some pain and suffering were pointless and unnecessary. For example, he felt that the pain caused by sickness or injury was often unnecessary and could be avoided if we lead healthy lives. He believes that avoiding suffering only makes it worse in the long run. Ultimately, Nietzsche believes that the benefits of embracing suffering outweigh the risks.
“That which does not kill us makes us stronger.”
Nietzsche believes that by avoiding suffering, we are not truly living. We are instead living in fear and avoidance. By embracing suffering, we can learn to become stronger and more resilient. We can also learn to appreciate life more. He believes that life would be meaningless without suffering and that it is only by overcoming hardships and challenges that we can find meaning in life. Suffering also teaches us about ourselves. It helps us understand our limits and what we’re capable of. When we face our fears head-on, we come to understand ourselves better. And this understanding can help us live a more meaningful life.
“Suffering is the father of all things”
In his book “The Birth of Tragedy,” Nietzsche argues that life is a tragedy because it is full of pain and disappointment. But, by facing these challenges head-on, we can develop strength of character. This strength will enable us to overcome any obstacle life throws our way. If we do not face these challenges and learn to deal with them effectively, then life is a tragedy. There are two things that everyone needs in order to be successful: an ability to persist and an ability to cope with adversity.
You don't understand art or beauty; we have art so that we shall not die of reality
Traditionally, Nietzschean philosophy views existence as suffering, and one method to overcome suffering and boredom is to create new things. The first thing that the Greeks did was to create gods. These new gods deified everything around them, natural or not, good or bad. The Greek gods had human traits. They were just as moral as they were immoral, they went after virtue as much as they sinned. The fact that the gods lived the same lives as humans affirmed the lives of the mortals. Among these gods was Apollo, and he was the source of rationality and attraction to beauty which made life worth living. Nietzsche finds that there are two artistic paths within art, the Apollonian and the Dionysian. The Apollonian and the Dionysian arise from two fundamental perceptions of the world, which we will call art-worlds. The first art-world is the dream-world. The dream-world is related to the experience of… dreaming. The dream-world is one of a cheerful acquiescence. Our dreams are filled with illusions. However, the very fabric of these illusions draws us in, to the point where, sometimes, we attempt to keep dreaming even if we understand that we are in a dream (think lucid-dreaming). Dreams are, by their very nature, structured experiences and this structure allows for distinctions to be made. One of these distinctions is that of the self and the other, the subject and the object. The Greeks embodied the sphere of dreams in their god Apollo.
The Greeks presents Dionysus as a god who brings divine madness and ecstatic unity. It is an experience based on illusions or misrepresentations of reality. Unlike the structured, ordered illusion of the dream, this drunkenness is deeply emotional and irrational. Within this chaotic reality, the subject is dissolved, becoming one with its surroundings. As a result, drunkenness is an experience of oneness or as Nietzsche calls it primordial unity. Dionysus is the god who embodies this type of experience.
The Apollonian is the art of light and calm reason. It is also the art that, through its structure, takes the subject out of its context, away from its community. It naturally raises walls between the subject and the other. On the other hand, the Dionysian is the art of madness, emotion, ecstasy, and above all, unity. The Dionysian is a force that unites humans as well as humans and nature. Within a Dionysian state of ecstasy, there are no lines. Everything becomes one under the experience of primordial unity. The principium individuationis here is dissolved and the communion between different subjects is realized.
In Nietzsche’s view, the artist is a tragic figure. Not because their life is full of sorrow and misery, but because they are able to see the world in all its beauty and horror at the same time. They aren’t able to gloss over the ugliness or the pain, but they also don’t shy away from it.
For Nietzsche, this is what makes art so powerful. It isn’t a way to escape from the world, but to confront it head-on. The artist is able to take all of these conflicting emotions and ideas and put them into a work of art that can be appreciated by others. In his view, the artist is somebody who suffers more intensely than other people and because of this, they’re able to create something new and beautiful.
In his view, art is a tool that could be used to achieve two very important goals: the first was to make life more bearable, and the second was to help us find meaning in life. He believed that it was the artist’s job to help us see the world in a new way and to make us feel things that we wouldn’t ordinarily feel. For Nietzsche, art was a way for us to express ourselves and our views on the world. He felt that it was important for artists to be true to themselves, and to create art that came from the heart. He felt that this was the only way for art to have any real impact.
He believed that art was not just about pretty things or decoration, but it was about creating something that had never been seen before. The artist was someone who could take the chaos of the world and turn it into something beautiful.
Nietzsche believed that art was a way for us to connect with our own humanity and to express what it means to be human. He thought that art could help us to understand ourselves and the world around us better. And that art was a great way to express oneself and to find meaning in life. He thought that art was not only about the beautiful things in life but also about the ugly and dark parts of life.
According to Nietzsche, living life like an artist means being open to new experiences and ways of seeing the world. It means having the courage to express oneself honestly and openly. It also means being willing to take risks and to experiment with new ideas. Nietzsche believed that art is not a copy of reality, but an interpretation of it. He thought that art is an expression of the artist’s will to power. The artist creates their own world, which is a reflection of their innermost desires and fears.
There is no greater calling in life than to express yourself through your work. And there is no greater work than your own existence. Nietzsche believed that life itself was a work of art. Just as an artist takes raw materials and shapes them into something beautiful, we too can make our lives into a work of art. Nietzsche believed that by living your life as a work of art, you would be able to create your own meaning and purpose. This is because, as an artist, you are not constrained by the traditional values and beliefs of society. Instead, you are free to express yourself in any way you see fit.
In the end, we can see that for Nietzsche, life itself is the highest form of art. There is no separation between life and art, and our existence should be seen as a work of art, something that is constantly being shaped and crafted.