Risks of the Covid vaccine

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

The vaccine didn't seem to very helpful but it also doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the conspiracy theorists think it is.

Perhaps you could explain how you think the shot as narratised to you makes any sense - after you have made sure your shots are up to date of course.

That doesn't prove it's as dangerous as you make it out to be. I think the conspiracy theorists want it to be more harmful than it really is so they desperately search for any unusual sudden death and blame it on the vaccine. I know plenty of active, normal people who are fully vaccinated and have no health problems and are alive just fine. If it was so dangerous this wouldn't be the case.

Did you took the vaccines?

[Yohan]

No thanks.. I wouldn't want to take my chances in getting the vaccine. I hope your doing ok. The Pandemic is officially over anyway.

I am OK - the point is you are not living in Japan and South Korea now.
People are mistrusting in Japan and South Korea and not sure if the pandemic is really over, there are daily new infections reported in both countries.

Both countries were the first and were badly hit with covid-19 infections in the past from infected Chinese visitors and the Chinese government was not helpful at all to assist.

For sure now again, information about the covid-19 situation in China - what is officially released by the Chinese government and heavily censored - is more than questionable.

The reaction of both governments regarding covid-19 is different in Japan and South Korea compared to other countries worldwide I guess because of very bad experience with China.

In South Korea btw. is the office of the International Vaccine Institute. Homepage in English and Korean available.

https://www.ivi.int

https://www.ivi.int/what-we-do/disease-areas/covid-19/

[My life is garbage]

The vaccine didn't seem to very helpful but it also doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the conspiracy theorists think it is.

Perhaps you could explain how you think the shot as narratised to you makes any sense - after you have made sure your shots are up to date of course.

That doesn't prove it's as dangerous as you make it out to be. I think the conspiracy theorists want it to be more harmful than it really is so they desperately search for any unusual sudden death and blame it on the vaccine. I know plenty of active, normal people who are fully vaccinated and have no health problems and are alive just fine. If it was so dangerous this wouldn't be the case.

Did you took the vaccines?

Hell f***ing no.

[Cornfed]

The vaccine didn't seem to very helpful but it also doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the conspiracy theorists think it is.

Perhaps you could explain how you think the shot as narratised to you makes any sense - after you have made sure your shots are up to date of course.

That doesn't prove it's as dangerous as you make it out to be. I think the conspiracy theorists want it to be more harmful than it really is

You're right, I want the retards to be dispatched asap. What is the non-conspiracy theory theory of the clot shots, given that any medical explanation is completely ridiculous by the normal standards?

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

No thanks.. I wouldn't want to take my chances in getting the vaccine. I hope your doing ok. The Pandemic is officially over anyway.

I am OK - the point is you are not living in Japan and South Korea now.
People are mistrusting in Japan and South Korea and not sure if the pandemic is really over, there are daily new infections reported in both countries.

Both countries were the first and were badly hit with covid-19 infections in the past from infected Chinese visitors and the Chinese government was not helpful at all to assist.

For sure now again, information about the covid-19 situation in China - what is officially released by the Chinese government and heavily censored - is more than questionable.

The reaction of both governments regarding covid-19 is different in Japan and South Korea compared to other countries worldwide I guess because of very bad experience with China.

In South Korea btw. is the head office of the International Vaccine Institute. Homepage in English and Korean available.
https://www.ivi.int

I currently live in America, but what does me living in Japan and South Korea have to do with the COVID pandemic?
I am confused by your statement.

I only stay in America because of my job not because I love the people, culture, architecture, etc...

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

The vaccine didn't seem to very helpful but it also doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the conspiracy theorists think it is.

Perhaps you could explain how you think the shot as narratised to you makes any sense - after you have made sure your shots are up to date of course.

That doesn't prove it's as dangerous as you make it out to be. I think the conspiracy theorists want it to be more harmful than it really is so they desperately search for any unusual sudden death and blame it on the vaccine. I know plenty of active, normal people who are fully vaccinated and have no health problems and are alive just fine. If it was so dangerous this wouldn't be the case.

Did you took the vaccines?

Hell f***ing no.

Hell yeah brother! I didn't either.

[My life is garbage]

The vaccine didn't seem to very helpful but it also doesn't seem to be as dangerous as the conspiracy theorists think it is.

Perhaps you could explain how you think the shot as narratised to you makes any sense - after you have made sure your shots are up to date of course.

That doesn't prove it's as dangerous as you make it out to be. I think the conspiracy theorists want it to be more harmful than it really is

You're right, I want the retards to be dispatched asap. What is the non-conspiracy theory theory of the clot shots, given that any medical explanation is completely ridiculous by the normal standards?

To give the corrupt drug companies billions of dollars.

[Cornfed]

To give the corrupt drug companies billions of dollars.

I guess. It would be a little disappointing if it were just that. Kind of a take on the banality of evil. The other aspects of the covaids nonsense would suggest there is more to it than that.

[My life is garbage]

To give the corrupt drug companies billions of dollars.

I guess. It would be a little disappointing if it were just that. Kind of a take on the banality of evil. The other aspects of the covaids nonsense would suggest there is more to it than that.

It would actually be great if it was as damaging to the normie NPCs as many conspiracy theorists originally thought it was. But now a few years later I am seeing very few people with actual adverse effects to the vaccines except for the occasional story on alternative news sites about sudden deaths that might not actually have been caused by the vaccines. Like I said, yes I'm sure there are some people with actual side effects but you can find that with literally any vaccine or drug. I will say that all of the masked idiots that I know who were fully vaccinated still caught Covid multiple times so the vaccines don't seem to actually help. But don't mistake me for a vaccinated normie retard.

[Yohan]

... I think the conspiracy theorists want it to be more harmful than it really is so they desperately search for any unusual sudden death and blame it on the vaccine. I know plenty of active, normal people who are fully vaccinated and have no health problems and are alive just fine. If it was so dangerous this wouldn't be the case.

Here in Japan there are hardly any conspiracy theorists around. You want to be vaccinated it will be done and if you do not want it here in Japan nobody cares if you don't show up despite receiving a free vaccination coupon by the National Health Insurance. Up to the individual.

I think that's the only correct way to go.

So far since covid-19 vaccine is available (only Pfizer and Moderna are approved and passed all tests under Japanese supervision) medical doctors gave about 400 million shots. So far about 16 million people showed up so far for the ongoing vaccination no. 6.

I got my Pfizer shot No. 6 yesterday morning, all small side effects are gone already (some pain in the left arm, feeling a bit sleeply...)
Also got already my international vaccination certificate which might be useful during my trips abroad. So far I was not infected with covid-19.

I know a few people who got covid-19 despite vaccination, but it was very mild, 2 days or so feeling uncomfortable with pain in all bones, but no fever and within less a week all discomfort was gone.

My fully vaccinated brother-in-law got it and he was not even aware he had covid-19. However his wife and daughter who refused the vaccination got it and they were suffering quite a lot for about 10 days with fever, coughing, headache, unable to concentrage and so on...
Medical doctors were testing all three, and all three of them were positive, but it was a big difference for them if vaccinated or not.

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

... I think the conspiracy theorists want it to be more harmful than it really is so they desperately search for any unusual sudden death and blame it on the vaccine. I know plenty of active, normal people who are fully vaccinated and have no health problems and are alive just fine. If it was so dangerous this wouldn't be the case.

Here in Japan there are hardly any conspiracy theorists around. You want to be vaccinated it will be done and if you do not want it here in Japan nobody cares if you don't show up despite receiving a free vaccination coupon by the National Health Insurance. Up to the individual.

I think that's the only correct way to go.

So far since covid-19 vaccine is available (only Pfizer and Moderna are approved and passed all tests under Japanese supervision) medical doctors gave about 400 million shots. So far about 16 million people showed up so far for the ongoing vaccination no. 6.

I got my Pfizer shot No. 6 yesterday morning, all small side effects are gone already (some pain in the left arm, feeling a bit sleeply...)
Also got already my international vaccination certificate which might be useful during my trips abroad. So far I was not infected with covid-19.

I know a few people who got covid-19 despite vaccination, but it was very mild, 2 days or so feeling uncomfortable with pain in all bones, but within a week all discomfort was gone.

Should have been like that, but in America, for the last 2 years, there has been a wide spread hysteria and lot of fascist company policies about taking the vaccine or not. You are not allowed to work, enter restaurants, travel, go to supermarket unmasked, and enter government buildings if your not vaccinated. Lot of conspiracy people in the U.S too, armed with guns, hoarding food and toilet people in their bunker. I wish America was half as "civilized" as the Japanese are..

[Moretorque]

To give the corrupt drug companies billions of dollars.

I guess. It would be a little disappointing if it were just that. Kind of a take on the banality of evil. The other aspects of the covaids nonsense would suggest there is more to it than that.

It would actually be great if it was as damaging to the normie NPCs as many conspiracy theorists originally thought it was. But now a few years later I am seeing very few people with actual adverse effects to the vaccines except for the occasional story on alternative news sites about sudden deaths that might not actually have been caused by the vaccines. Like I said, yes I'm sure there are some people with actual side effects but you can find that with literally any vaccine or drug. I will say that all of the masked idiots that I know who were fully vaccinated still caught Covid multiple times so the vaccines don't seem to actually help. But don't mistake me for a vaccinated normie retard.

Dude you are smoking some serious crack, people are dying left and right all around us everywhere in droves out of normal proportions. There are so many different items popping up from injury to death you have to be an idiot not to see what is really going on. Go watch Mr. Gates on Ted Talk stating they can get rid of 10% of the sheeple through vaccinations to meet 0 carbon emissions.

[Cornfed]

It has been a long time coming, but the media is now talking about about "Long vax" symptoms from the death shot. No matter how much you remaining lemmings try to live in your fool's paradise, there is no denying now that your time is coming, as even the hucksters that conned you into committing suicide in the first place now acknowledge.

https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/what-is-l ... ffle-docs/

[My life is garbage]

To give the corrupt drug companies billions of dollars.

I guess. It would be a little disappointing if it were just that. Kind of a take on the banality of evil. The other aspects of the covaids nonsense would suggest there is more to it than that.

It would actually be great if it was as damaging to the normie NPCs as many conspiracy theorists originally thought it was. But now a few years later I am seeing very few people with actual adverse effects to the vaccines except for the occasional story on alternative news sites about sudden deaths that might not actually have been caused by the vaccines. Like I said, yes I'm sure there are some people with actual side effects but you can find that with literally any vaccine or drug. I will say that all of the masked idiots that I know who were fully vaccinated still caught Covid multiple times so the vaccines don't seem to actually help. But don't mistake me for a vaccinated normie retard.

Dude you are smoking some serious crack, people are dying left and right all around us everywhere in droves out of normal proportions. There are so many different items popping up from injury to death you have to be an idiot not to see what is really going on. Go watch Mr. Gates on Ted Talk stating they can get rid of 10% of the sheeple through vaccinations to meet 0 carbon emissions.

Where are you seeing this? There isn't a single person I know that has died from the vaccine. I do know plenty of people who have died from drug overdoses, roping, or violence over the past few years. I don't know anyone who has died from the vaccines. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but if it was so widespread then wouldn't we all know some people who have died or had serious side effects from it? But then again, it looks like @Cornfed has some good news:

It has been a long time coming, but the media is now talking about about "Long vax" symptoms from the death shot. No matter how much you remaining lemmings try to live in your fool's paradise, there is no denying now that your time is coming, as even the hucksters that conned you into committing suicide in the first place now acknowledge.

So it looks like there is still the possibility that the vaccines will be harmful down the line, which is exactly what normie scum deserve for trying to force everyone to take this poison.

[Yohan]

It has been a long time coming, but the media is now talking about about "Long vax" symptoms

https://nypost.com/2023/07/06/what-is-l ... ffle-docs/

What is ‘long vax’? Symptoms linked to COVID-19 shot baffle docs

July 6, 2023 4:31pm Updated

Now comes “long vax” — a rare, but baffling set of symptoms that follow a small number of people for months after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine.

“You see one or two patients and you wonder if it’s a coincidence,” Dr. Anne Louise Oaklander, a neurologist and researcher at Harvard Medical School, told Science.

“But by the time you’ve seen 10, 20 [patients],” she said, “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”

Cases are very rare — even less common than the few reported cases of long COVID — and medical experts are still analyzing data to determine what might be behind them.

Patients are also telling their doctors about tingling, electric shock–like sensations, burning pain and blood circulation issues that appear weeks, days or even hours after receiving the COVID-19 shot.

Other patients have symptoms resembling those of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, or POTS, including weakness, swings in heart rate and blood pressure, fatigue and brain fog.

Symptoms of long vax can mimic those of long COVID: headaches, intense fatigue and abnormal heart rate and blood pressure.

Fear of anti-vaxxers
Many doctors are hesitant to openly discuss the possibility of a long vax syndrome, fearing it will be seized upon by anti-vaccine conspiracy theorists who’ll try to discredit a vaccine that has saved countless millions of lives.

“We can’t rule out rare cases,” said Dr. Peter Marks, director of the Food and Drug Administration’s vaccine division. Doctors “may want to take seriously the concept [of] a vaccine side effect.”

But Marks and others worry about “the sensational headline” that could mislead the public, since the benefits of the COVID-19 vaccine far outweigh the risks.

“It’s my obligation, if I truly am a scientist, to have an open mind and learn if there’s something that can be done,” said Dr. Harlan Krumholz, a cardiologist at Yale University.

“I’m persuaded that there’s something going on” with these side effects, Krumholz added.

LISTEN to patients
Krumholz and his colleague, Yale immunologist Akiko Iwasaki, have started a post-vaccination study called LISTEN, for Listen to Immune, Symptom and Treatment Experiences Now.

The purpose of their research is to “understand long COVID, post-vaccine adverse events and the corresponding immune responses by collecting information about symptoms and medical history from participants.”

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention acknowledge that “[a]ny vaccine can cause side effects,” adding that these are mostly “minor (for example, a sore arm or low-grade fever) and go away within a few days.”

For example, the inactivated influenza shot can, in rare cases, cause Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), an immune disorder that causes muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis.

Most vaccines can cause minor, temporary side effects in a small number of people.

And the CDC reports that “tiredness, muscle pain, headache, shivering, fever, stomach pain and nausea are common after recombinant shingles vaccine.”

But for the overwhelming majority of people, vaccines are safe and effective, and any side effects are usually temporary and minor.

Could it be POTS?
Still, an intriguing number of long vax reports have come trickling in from doctors and researchers around the globe — particularly cases of POTS overlapping with COVID-19 infection or, less frequently, after vaccination.

POTS causes a number of symptoms when a person moves from lying down to standing up, such as a rapid heart rate, dizziness and fatigue, according to the Cleveland Clinic.

The condition can occur during pregnancy, with a head injury or other trauma, after surgery or following an infection like viral mononucleosis.

Researchers are continuing to investigate cases of POTS, both after COVID-19 infection and after vaccination.

“As researchers study links between COVID-19 vaccines and uncommon side effects, they have found a slight increase in the number of people who have experienced postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome (POTS) following vaccination,” the National Institutes of Health stated in a December 2022 report.

“However, this association is five times less common compared to people who developed POTS after having COVID,” the NIH added.

Many people including myself feel some after-effect when vaccinated. It's not only about covid-19. In my case after any vaccination there is nothing within 6 hours, after the left arm is getting a bit painful when moving, getting sleepy, feeling a little cold etc. but all symptoms will disappear within 24 to 36 hours.

Sometimes my after-vaccination symptoms are weak, sometimes stronger, depends on the vaccine. Seasonal flu shots since 15 years, pneumonia shots every 5 years (2008. 2013, 2018 and 2023) and covid-19 Pfizer vaccine (shot no. 1 and shot no. 2) were very mild, the strongest reaction I noticed with covid-19 shot no. 3 when Moderna instead of Pfizer was used as a vaccine - quite strong, I was surprised - but shot no. 4 again with Moderna was harmless again, and some mild reaction I also noticed with shot no.5 and a few days ago with shot no. 6 with Pfizer.

Medical doctors in Japan ask always the recipient of any vaccine to wait in the clinic for 20 minutes and after to go home immediately and to rest for 24 hours and to refrain from taking hot bath, doing exercise like in a gym, not driving a car etc.

I do not doubt that long-vax symptoms might exist for some people. They should report about it and maybe either refrain in future from some certain vaccinations or request a different vaccine or vaccination with a reduced dose.