My Challenge to Rock!

[Winston]

@Winston I've asked you repeatedly to tone down your language on this site. You have been very hostile and verbally abusive towards users on here. Please write a new post in the General Discussions section and write a formal apology to myself and the others you have said bad things towards.

If you continue to play shit games like that here, you are going to be banned. This your last warning. You've had plenty of time and warning to act normal and not insane and deranged. You've already been given too much grace.

[Winston]

Alright @Pixel--Dude that's a very comprehensive and convincing compilation of evidence. There are simply too many similarities for this all be just a coincidence. The Recover account's broken English DOES remind me a lot of Chandler, whose own broken English is identical to that of Spencer. They're all the same person, and almost certainly Rock. Some of the things mentioned by Chandler, too, are identical of Mercer. There's too much overlap for them to all be different persons. Either this is a little group of like-minded incels trolling the forum together secrely, with Rock being their friend and protector, or this is all just him. There really is no other explanation to this.

I hope @Winston will face the music. I know it's painful to come to terms with the fact that your friend is positively insane, but honestly, it is what it is. No need to sugarcoat things anymore. If this is all just a big misunderstanding, I'm sure Rock wouldn't mind explaining all this on the forum as Pixeldude requested? So far, his silence really is damning...

But MZ. Couldn't it be that Rock was behind the Recover account and maybe Chandler too, but not the others? Why can't there be more than one troll or sockpuppet? Anonymous posters can be anybody right?

[kangarunner]

If you continue to play shit games like that here, you are going to be banned. This your last warning. You've had plenty of time and warning to act normal and not insane and deranged. You've already been given too much grace.

I'll be consulting my attorney in Las Vegas pending legal action on this matter. Please be advised.

[Winston]

When he accuses posters of being NPCs. He asks questions when one answers he does not reply or does it in a low effort bad faith way and low key insulting way while doing it.

Yeah I notice that quite alot, but I don't think that is malicious trolling. It's Winston being lazy, narcissistic or he doesn't like the answer to the questions he asked. Keep in mind that Winston is a 50 year old obese Taiwanese man, stuck in Anglese City, banging low quality whores.
He all washed out now. Not the adventurer he used to be. He still has cadre of friends and his parents but he doesn't know how "good" he has it.

One can be lazy and still be honest and fair. I am not shure if his life situation has anything todo with it. I would argue that he was worse in the past. At least nowaday he knows more stuff because of his 'youtube studies'.

That's his personality. He tend to ask plenty of open ended questions and call other people NPCs and even call asians "troglodytes"
He also thinks he is the "most free thinking Asian in the world". Narcissism and delusion of grandeur. But you know his all washed out now anyway.

Then he complains that Roosh forum has so many intelligent posters and he does not. Guess who does he blame?

I never said Roosh has more intelligent posters than we do. I only said he has a higher QUANTITY of posters than we do. A higher number. But that doesn't mean they are better or smarter. But from what I saw over there, they do seem kind of fake and ass-kissing. They never criticize Roosh for instance. But you see that on YouTube too. Everyone just kisses ass on YT and never asks skeptical questions. I wonder if everyone is just an AI bot nowadays. lol. I heard a theory that half the content on the internet now is AI generated and so half the comments on YT are from AI bots? There's a video about this on The Why Files channel. It's pretty spooky. See below.

[MarcosZeitola]

But MZ. Couldn't it be that Rock was behind the Recover account and maybe Chandler too, but not the others? Why can't there be more than one troll or sockpuppet? Anonymous posters can be anybody right?

If he's behind Recover and Chandler, which seem almost certain... then he's behind Spencer, too; Spencer talks in an identical garbled-weird-broken English as Chandler did. And the Spencer account came up with the nickname "Wiseton" for you, @Winston. Then Mercer repeatedly used "Wiseton" to refer to you, too. Chandler and Mercer both mentioned several similar subjects, incel talking points, etcetera. All these accounts had a similar modus operandi; they were highly active but only in short bursts. They would go on a "trolling spree", disrupting threads, arguing with people, insulting them... but never stick around long and go into deep debates. They would all, always, evade personal questions as well. They shared similar obsessions, wrote on similar subjects and always interrupted and disrupted other people's conversations needlessly.

All these lead me to suggest that the same person is behind all of these accounts. And that person, as per Pixeldude's collective evidence, is almost certainly Rock. As for discussions on his 'unusual looks', those were out of order. I'm sorry I entertained such conversations, and I would much rather stay on topic and just discuss the trolling aspect. It's kind of hard to explain away all the many coincidences and similarities. There's just too much that ties the guy to the "scene of the crime" lol.

[Winston]

Are you deaf or just dumb? lol. The fact that you are jabbing me with this in an unrelated thread is telling. All you have is ridicule, not facts or logic or evidence. Hence you lose.

@Winston Please apologize for your verbally abusive and hostile language.

I told you to stop playing games and lying about me. All I stated were bare bones facts. You are also wasting my time with nonsense and polluting the quality of this forum with garbage. You need a break. I'm banning you for a few days. The next time it will be permanent. This forum is not anything goes. You gotta at least act like a decent person with decent behavior you know. Are you that uncivilized?

[galii]

Well it's true. As an Asian yourself, you know that 99.99 percent of Asians just live to work and are practical and materialistic and narrow minded and pure conformist. That is obvious. They aren't wise and spiritual like Alan Watts claimed and New Age people claim. It's just a fact, they are what they are. A spade is a spade. I'm just the messenger and being honest.

I'm not the only one that thinks I'm the most freethinking Asian. Many others have too. See here: www.happierabroad.com/FreethinkingAsian.htm . Even Rock and Jester did. I heard them say so while talking to each other on the phone long ago.

Sure I don't like the answers to my deep questions especially if the answers don't make sense or don't take into account all the data. But very often, I get no answers at all if my questions are too deep or esoteric or out of the box. Unfortunately, most guys here except for Pixel Dude and Lucas88, are not into higher consciousness stuff. That's just the truth. No offense about it. We are all different, not the same. Nor is everyone equal either. Equality doesn't exist in reality or nature, it's just a communist/marxist term to instill liberal democracy all over the world and replace the old world order with a communist dictatorship. That's all.

Yes I agree you are a freethinker if you mean free of logic for example in the flat earth discussions.

You lost the debate on that one because you came up with no evidence and no answers to any of my questions. So you are a horrible debater. No offense. All you have is ridicule, like Alex's friend Roberto. No valid arguments. Ridicule doesn't prove anything. Flat Earth is one topic among many. Why are you so obsessed with it? I never claimed anything. I just question my reality, which all freethinkers should do. But you obviously aren't.

Why would you care about arguments as a solipsist? How could you understand other people if they are non existing NPCs? You are living in your world period and your feelings are more important than facts.

I asked you MANY MANY factual logical questions about Flat Earth that you dodged. So the facts aren't on your side. Only authority is. Because you worship authority and science is your god. That's not facts. It's just authority worship. That's why Christians and Atheists are just two sides of a polarity, they both cannot think independently and depend on authority for truth. Hence their fallacy and flaw. I've explained this many times. Are you deaf or just dumb? lol. The fact that you are jabbing me with this in an unrelated thread is telling. All you have is ridicule, not facts or logic or evidence. Hence you lose.

You have to be serious if you want to explore stuff. You have to try to understand some complicated stuff. It is like saying the nuclear bomb is not real. YOU have to try to understand the science behind it. Surface level rhetorical arguments are not valid.

It is like me saying planes are not real because planes are heavier than air. Haha got you I debunked you. You talk in the level of a 12 year old.

[Seeker]

@Rock backstabbed me in 2014 after we met in 2013 and he pretended to be mr. nice guy.

Surprisingly, it was over 2 Filipinas we both met that liked me better than him and he found out about it.

He then posted that I was only meeting ugly girls when the truth was the cute girls we had both met liked me better than him.
Then another hot girl that we both met in 2015 also told me she didn't like him but liked me and briefly dated me and @publicduende .

A very curious thing happened too when I first met @Rock in 2013.
He used my laptop in my room for just a few minutes and it froze and I had to get the software reinstalled at a local repair shop.
Very suspicious that it went from working perfectly to frozen while he was "using" it for just a few minutes. More like abusing it.

Needless to say I wish I had never met @Rock .

Well, this story alone is enough to tell me a lot about Rock's true character. He sounds like a particularly vile, jealous, egotistical and nasty sort. There are men who get like that when other men are favoured over them, especially by a woman they like. How he comes across on the forum and in his dealings with Winston could be completely different to what he really is. Psychopaths excel at wearing masks. None of this proves that he is behind all the trolls but he does now seem like the kind of malignant person who is capable of that, given his personality and (relative) intelligence.

[Winston]

@Pixel--Dude

You are certainly doing a hell of a job collecting evidence and connecting dots. I would be quite sad to see @Rock having nothing better to do with his life, than creating multiple puppet accounts and using them to randomly insult people consequence-free.

Him admitting he doesn't mind PAG trashing the place might point to the fact that he sees HA as a turf to be trampled, littered and shat on. This is deeply disrespectful, both towards Winston and the dozens of posters who spent a significant part of their waking hours penning trip reports, giving advice and discussing serious topics (however controversial).

I must say I said that PAG should stay because it was a shit show already. I think Winston was trolling his own forum too btw. though in a different way.

How is Winston trolling his own forum?

When he accuses posters of being NPCs. He asks questions when one answers he does not reply or does it in a low effort bad faith way and low key insulting way while doing it.

Yeah I notice that quite alot, but I don't think that is malicious trolling. It's Winston being lazy, narcissistic or he doesn't like the answer to the questions he asked. Keep in mind that Winston is a 50 year old obese Taiwanese man, stuck in Anglese City, banging low quality whores.
He all washed out now. Not the adventurer he used to be. He still has cadre of friends and his parents but he doesn't know how "good" he has it.

Btw I don't deny that I have it good in life in terms of finances and comforts of life. That is obvious. The universe takes care of me because I'm a good soul with good karma credits and probably a Wanderer Soul or Starseed Soul too, so I don't even belong here in a sense because I'm not materialistic and not connected to the same hive that most people are.

But I do seem to be cursed in some ways too. I've been socially ostracized a lot and most people do not like me. This has been true since 1983 when I moved to Fremont, CA. Before that I was fine and happy and had good friends and good teachers that loved me. So I found out at a very early age that location changes everything. It was like a HA foreshadowing, which you see in movies and literature too, where foreshadowing is common. This tells me that reality is scripted and a sort of play or illusion, if foreshadowing always happens in real life, similar to in movies and literature and fairy tales.

And no it's not because of my looks or personality. When I was a kid, I tried to be normal and act normal and say normal things. So there must be something intangible that puts an ice wall between me and others and doesn't get me invited into any social cliques. It has to be a curse because it's very consistent and intangible and not explainable by anything simple or logical. I've experienced this since 1983 so it cannot be something simple. Otherwise it would have been detected long ago. There is some curse or force field that tries to socially isolate me from others, for sure.

That's why right now, both my parents houses are in the most antisocial places in the world. Such as Las Vegas and Chiayi, Taiwan, which is reputed to be the most antisocial town in Taiwan, which even Rock admits to. Haven't you guys ever been to towns or cities like that, where no one talks to you or socializes with you and you feel like a freak if you talk to anyone? As if talking to strangers is wrong and illegal and it is an unspoken truth that everyone seemed to know? Hence the universe seems to deliberately try to put me in the most antisocial places where I cannot just go out and meet people and have fun. If you doubt me, then how come when I go to places on my own, even up to Northern Nevada like in Reno or Carson City, the people are a lot more warm and friendly and will talk to strangers? How do you explain that? Even in the state of Nevada, people are different in the northern and southern part of the state. So it can't be my imagination or me. The location definitely makes a difference.

I don't understand why no one talks about this. Everyone acts like location doesn't matter and only your thoughts and attitude does. It's as if everyone is a bot following a script and cannot see obvious things, as if I'm the only real person in this matrix. Who knows. Maybe I'm in some virtual reality RPG game and everyone is created by the game and I'm the only gameplayer here, like in the movie Tron? Strange as that sounds, it would explain a lot.

[Winston]

Yes I agree you are a freethinker if you mean free of logic for example in the flat earth discussions.

You lost the debate on that one because you came up with no evidence and no answers to any of my questions. So you are a horrible debater. No offense. All you have is ridicule, like Alex's friend Roberto. No valid arguments. Ridicule doesn't prove anything. Flat Earth is one topic among many. Why are you so obsessed with it? I never claimed anything. I just question my reality, which all freethinkers should do. But you obviously aren't.

Why would you care about arguments as a solipsist? How could you understand other people if they are non existing NPCs? You are living in your world period and your feelings are more important than facts.

I asked you MANY MANY factual logical questions about Flat Earth that you dodged. So the facts aren't on your side. Only authority is. Because you worship authority and science is your god. That's not facts. It's just authority worship. That's why Christians and Atheists are just two sides of a polarity, they both cannot think independently and depend on authority for truth. Hence their fallacy and flaw. I've explained this many times. Are you deaf or just dumb? lol. The fact that you are jabbing me with this in an unrelated thread is telling. All you have is ridicule, not facts or logic or evidence. Hence you lose.

You have to be serious if you want to explore stuff. You have to try to understand some complicated stuff. It is like saying the nuclear bomb is not real. YOU have to try to understand the science behind it. Surface level rhetorical arguments are not valid.

It is like me saying planes are not real because planes are heavier than air. Haha got you I debunked you. You talk in the level of a 12 year old.

That's a bad argument. I never said planes weren't real. We've all been in planes but we have never seen the curavture of the Earth.

Sigh. For the umpteenth time:

1. You've never seen the CURVATURE of Earth with the naked eye. You assume it. You take it on faith only. You've only seen it in videos and photos. Not with the naked eye. Have you been up to 100,000 feet? Hence it could all be a hoax. You can't rule that out.

I have a 20 min video of someone sending a rocket with a camera and balloon into low Earth orbit at 110,000 feet. It shows a FLAT horizon at eye level. How do you explain that? Why don't you buy a rocket and balloon and camera and do this experiment for yourself? TEST YOUR THEORY. Don't just argue about it! What if you do the test and get the same result? Would you like to see this 20 min video at 110,000 feet? If so, will you take it into account and stop the ridicule? Or will you continue to ridicule me? If so, stop this debate and stop bringing this up to ridicule me.

Someone is offering $100,000 dollars for proof of the Earth's curvature. Why can't anyone collect on it? Doesn't that speak volumes?

Also if 100,000 feet isn't high enough to see curvature, then how can ships disappear over the Earth's curvature at ground level? LOL. Gotcha! Busted!

Deep down, you must know there is something to flat Earth, otherwise you wouldn't feel the need to keep ridiculing it. I would never continue ridiculing something I thought was ridiculous.

2. How come many people have gone around the world east to west, but zero people have gone around the world north to south? On a globe or sphere, it should be just as easy to go around is north south as east west. Yet zero people have done it. That should be highly suspicious and raise your eyebrow. Where are all the brave intrepid explorers willing to be the first man in history to go around the worth north to south? And why has no one asked this question? Why doesn't the media issue the challenge?

3. If people in Australia are standing upside down on the globe, then there is no objective up or down right? If so then:

- Why not show the Earth globe upside down or sideways? What would it matter? Why is the Earth globe always right side up? Why not show the Earth sideways and call the poles East and West poles? It shouldn't matter right?
- Why are all spaceships right side up, never upside down or sideways? How come in movies, all ships in space are right side up?
- How come in the Solar System model, all planets are right side up? Why do they only orbit the Sun east west, but never north south? In space there is no up or down so it shouldn't matter right?

I have MANY questions like these. You've dodged 100 percent of them! If you can't answer questions or think then don't bother posting about this subject again ok!? All you do is RIDICULE which proves nothing. All you have on your side is authority, not logic or evidence or proof. Only ridicule for not following authority. That makes you a total ROBOT. Not a thinking real person. So please stop bringing up this subject just to ridicule me. Or I will point to this post again and the fact that you have NOTHING on your side, no proof, no evidence, NOTHING! Just ridicule and appeal to authority, simply because your beliefs are fixed and taught from school and cannot be changed. Your problem, not mine. Your mind is NOT FREE. So you rididcule those who can think for themselves? Very pathetic. Stop wasting my time please. If you can't answer my questions, then don't bother bringing up this subject. It pisses me off. And it wastes my time too.

[galii]

I must say I said that PAG should stay because it was a shit show already. I think Winston was trolling his own forum too btw. though in a different way.

How is Winston trolling his own forum?

When he accuses posters of being NPCs. He asks questions when one answers he does not reply or does it in a low effort bad faith way and low key insulting way while doing it.

Yeah I notice that quite alot, but I don't think that is malicious trolling. It's Winston being lazy, narcissistic or he doesn't like the answer to the questions he asked. Keep in mind that Winston is a 50 year old obese Taiwanese man, stuck in Anglese City, banging low quality whores.
He all washed out now. Not the adventurer he used to be. He still has cadre of friends and his parents but he doesn't know how "good" he has it.

Btw I don't deny that I have it good in life in terms of finances and comforts of life. That is obvious. The universe takes care of me because I'm a good soul with good karma credits and probably a Wanderer Soul or Starseed Soul too, so I don't even belong here in a sense because I'm not materialistic and not connected to the same hive that most people are.

But I do seem to be cursed in some ways too. I've been socially ostracized a lot and most people do not like me. This has been true since 1983 when I moved to Fremont, CA. Before that I was fine and happy and had good friends and good teachers that loved me. So I found out at a very early age that location changes everything. It was like a HA foreshadowing, which you see in movies and literature too, where foreshadowing is common. This tells me that reality is scripted and a sort of play or illusion, if foreshadowing always happens in real life, similar to in movies and literature and fairy tales.

And no it's not because of my looks or personality. When I was a kid, I tried to be normal and act normal and say normal things. So there must be something intangible that puts an ice wall between me and others and doesn't get me invited into any social cliques. It has to be a curse because it's very consistent and intangible and not explainable by anything simple or logical. I've experienced this since 1983 so it cannot be something simple. Otherwise it would have been detected long ago. There is some curse or force field that tries to socially isolate me from others, for sure.

That's why right now, both my parents houses are in the most antisocial places in the world. Such as Las Vegas and Chiayi, Taiwan, which is reputed to be the most antisocial town in Taiwan, which even Rock admits to. Haven't you guys ever been to towns or cities like that, where no one talks to you or socializes with you and you feel like a freak if you talk to anyone? As if talking to strangers is wrong and illegal and it is an unspoken truth that everyone seemed to know? Hence the universe seems to deliberately try to put me in the most antisocial places where I cannot just go out and meet people and have fun. If you doubt me, then how come when I go to places on my own, even up to Northern Nevada like in Reno or Carson City, the people are a lot more warm and friendly and will talk to strangers? How do you explain that? Even in the state of Nevada, people are different in the northern and southern part of the state. So it can't be my imagination or me. The location definitely makes a difference.

I don't understand why no one talks about this. Everyone acts like location doesn't matter and only your thoughts and attitude does. It's as if everyone is a bot following a script and cannot see obvious things, as if I'm the only real person in this matrix. Who knows. Maybe I'm in some virtual reality RPG game and everyone is created by the game and I'm the only gameplayer here, like in the movie Tron? Strange as that sounds, it would explain a lot.

Why would people care if you have a hard time when you don't care that other people have a hard time. People are dying of hunger but we should care about the rich guy Winston. You don't want to make decent research but want to debate technical topics but we should care about your opinions.

People change locations all the time. Millions of foreigners went to the US and Europe. Thousands of people risking their lifes to do it but you act like you are the first one. Delusional. People even in cities fighting to get into certain zip codes. People want to live in warmer states near the beach front for a reason but to do it is not that easy. To act like a prophet is a joke.

Many people from the south whose parents went to the west always dream of going back but it is a trade off that is mostly not worth otherwise they would do it. They don't need the propthet Winston to tell them the truth.

[Winston]

Why would people care if you have a hard time when you don't care that other people have a hard time. People are dying of hunger but we should care about the rich guy Winston. You don't want to make decent research but want to debate technical topics but we should care about your opinions.

People change locations all the time. Millions of foreigners went to the US and Europe. Thousands of people risking their lifes to do it but you act like you are the first one. Delusional. People even in cities fighting to get into certain zip codes. People want to live in warmer states near the beach front for a reason but to do it is not that easy. To act like a prophet is a joke.

Many people from the south whose parents went to the west always dream of going back but it is a trade off that is mostly not worth otherwise they would do it. They don't need the propthet Winston to tell them the truth.

Not just a hard time. I mean there is a supernatural or metaphysical or intangible element to life that many of you don't see and can't deny because you want reality to be simple and materialistic and atheistic. Why would I care if strangers have a hard time especially if I don't know them? If they were my friends or forum members here, then maybe I would care yeah. But what's the point about caring about strangers having a hard time if you can't do anything about it? It's up to God but he's not doing anything about it. Feeling sorry for poor people isn't gonna change anything. They have their karma. It's up to God. But if God isn't doing anything, then what can we do?

I don't see anyone dying of hunger. That's media propaganda. I don't see anything in real life that the media shows. For example in China I didn't see anyone protesting and crying for democracy or soldiers with machine guns anywhere. I just saw normal people living normal lives and very few policemen around and the ones that were there looked bored with nothing to do. Nothing like what the media showed.

Even in the PH the poor beggars don't look like skin and bones like the media shows in Ethiopia. Third world people do have food. They just don't have extra money. It's an American myth that third world people have no food. You aren't even American, so why do you believe their propaganda that you don't see in real life?

If people change locations all the time, why does no one talk about what we talk about? The average traveler doesn't even say that people are more open to talking to strangers in different locations and less open in other locations etc. That should be a simple obvious observation, but no one says it. And how come everyone on YouTube, including New Agers and Truthers and Self Help people and the Spiritual Community, all unimously claim that location doesn't matter and that the ONLY WAY to change your life is to change your thoughts and attitude so that it will change your reality? That's what everyone says. How come?

Can you stop AVOIDING my questions? You are wasting my f***ing time. Otherwise, don't ask and I will ignore all your posts from now on. I am tired of typing the same questions HUNDREDS of times!

[Winston]

@Winston did you read this? I'm yet to hear your feedback and thoughts on the evidence I've presented here. This thread has gone off on a major tangent.

@Rock

These are some of the pertinent questions for you to answer with relation to the issue at hand:

1. The Account
Why did you change your story about the account that was banned? You first said:



And later changed your explanation to say that you received an error message, which @Winston has confirmed. So the account checks out and so does your story with this. My main question is why you first said I accused you of being Mercer.

Also in relation to this: a) Why did you try and make a new account to begin with? b) if you received an error message or even a permanently banned message why did you then accuse me of banning you because I thought you were Mercer? Winston also said you told him you tried to make a bundle of accounts and they all got banned or something? Can you provide those accounts?

2. The Pattern
Why is it that there is a consistent pattern:
A) I ban Mercer's troll account.

- August 26th

B) He writes abuse in the shoutbox.

- August 26th

C) You complain to Winston that I'm banning too many users, denying free speech.

- August 27th is the date Winston sent this to me. But when was it sent to Winston? 26th or 27th? Understand how this looks from my perspective. It looks like you're pissed off that a moderator is ruining your fun and so you're trying to get Winston to override me or remove me. That's how it looks.

@Winston how many times has Rock complained about me banning new members after a Mercer troll was removed? This is important.

June 12th - Corey_Bee was banned.

May 8th and July 2nd Chandler and Recover were banned.

August 1st My life is garbage was banned.

@Winston do Rock's complaints about me banning too many users correlate with these dates or around these dates? June 12th, May 8th, July 2nd, August 1st?

Even if Rock is not Mercer (which I hope he isn’t) why is he protesting against me banning these sockpuppets and trolls? He's made himself look suspicious.

3. Use of Language

I'm no writing analyst or whatever, but I've noticed some similarities between use of language when it comes to Rock, Corey_Bee, Chandler and the author of the rip-off reports. I want to highlight them here. Terms like

"moderator abusing his power"

"Against free speech"

"Doing whatever he wants"

"Letting his friends break rules"

The author who wrote these rip-off reports is obviously the same person who sent them. The one about me sent to @Voyager1 from @Corey_Bee. Look at the similar use of language and terms highlighted.





Also the rip-off report sent to @kangarunner from @My life is garbage







Clearly the same person:





They are Mercer who is also clearly the author of the Rip-off reports sent to both Voyager1 and kangarunner in an attempt to sow discord and frame these guys as the authors when the author is clearly My life is garbage and Corey_Bee who are one and the same.

Then Chandler as well:



Rock has said stuff that sounds similar to this to Winston in confidence:







Similar use of language. Rock claims I'm banning too many new posters. He claims I'm abusing my power by "having an attitude that I can do whatever I want unless Winston overrides me." And also claiming I'm somehow stopping free speech. When have I ever censored opinions? I ban people for behaviour, not opinions. Rock making these accusations against me in alignment with the accusations made by these sockpuppets and the rip-off reports makes him suspicious.

4. Recover.

I'm pretty sure by now that Rock is actually Recover. There are several things that make this seem likely.

1. How did Rock know Recover was banned? No announcement was made and Rock has been unable to explain this thus far.

2. Rock said I banned an account he made, accusing him of being Mercer when he isn't Mercer. Evidence here:





So since this was not publicly announced only Recover knows I accused them of being Mercer. This is the only account other than those I connected to Mercer through use of language and certain terms and phrases as outlined above who I have accused of being Mercer. So how can Rock explain these syncronisities?

His only choice is to confess to being the creator of the Recover account, but even if he is and claims he isn't responsible for the rest of these accounts then this is in itself very suspicious for a few reasons.

A) Why would he try to come back as another user rather than himself when he's always (to my knowledge) been fairly liked and well respected on the forum, including being a friend and advisor of Winston.

B) Why would he use deliberately broken English and lets be honest here. Recover was putting on that broken English. It wasn't genuine. Does this mean Rock intended to troll the forum anyway?

Also look at this coincidence:



Chandler was banned May 8th. He made a Chandler2 account on June 30th. Recover was banned July 2nd. So immediately after Chandler's second sockpuppet was banned Recover must have been registered. Are these timings a coincidence? Or a relentless troll making endless accounts to harass the forum for their own entertainment?

I'm pretty sure a lot of members here can attest to the fact that every time one of that asshole Mercer's accounts get banned he harasses the shoutbox as a throwaway account. Chandler would've been no exception to this. Proving that I'm right in my convictions that Chandler is Corey_Bee/My life is garbage/Mercer

Proof here:





@MarcosZeitola, didn't this Recover accuse you of being racist? He came for you as Mercer always does if I remember rightly.

@Rock These are the main accusations you should address if you want to clear your name.

@Winston what do you make of this?

Yeah I saw it, but it's too detailed and I don't know. If Rock is Mercer, he will never admit it. He is not providing answers to your questions above either. He's just evading them and saying that he would never do such things, which doesn't prove anything. But all this seems circumstantial anyway. Couldn't it be possible that he could be behind Recover and Chandler but not the others? How do you know how many people are involved? What if some of these posters are AI bots, like the two videos above said when they said that half the internet content is generated by bots nowadays?

[Winston]

According to these two videos below, half of the content on the internet could be generated by AI bots nowadays. So how do we know these sockpuppets and Mercer aren't AI bots too? See below. It's a very interesting possibility.

[MarcosZeitola]

According to these two videos below, half of the content on the internet could be generated by AI bots nowadays. So how do we know these sockpuppets and Mercer aren't AI bots too? See below. It's a very interesting possibility.

AI is clunky, predictable and anyone with half a brain can tell when something is AI generated. The Mercer-Spencer trolls are too complicated, too "human" in their interactions. A human being is behind it. A human being who, on this site, goes by "Rock", most likely. I mean if he's really innocent and he is bothered by this thread and the accusations against him, he could simply answer @Pixel--Dude's questions. But he doesn't. You said it yourself, he evades and avoids answering directly. The most logical conclusion? He's guilty... so he won't be able to answer without further incriminating himself.

You said he'll never admit it, if he's guilty. Maybe not. But honestly, highly sophisticated AI generated incels or dark forces seem like a ridiculously far-fetched theory. The evidence presented paints a clear enough image. And as @Will N. Dowd, @Seeker and others above said... there's plenty of evidence to suspect Rock is a bit "off" in some ways. You even mentioned his strange, controversial sense of humor, and the fact that he loves to shock people. He gets off on that.

Rock is Mercer/Chander/Recover... that's the most logical conclusion. All other conclusions are weak, far-fetched or far more ridiculous than the case PD makes in the OP.