This list was created by feminists - it contains a lot of untrue arguments about MGTOW.This is my list of Redpill/MGTOW beliefs. I need help with challenging them- the world right now seems to confirm them.
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Nobody meets with each other in person anymore. Dating apps are the only viable way to date.
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Because of dating apps and social media, the majority of women now chase only the top-tier guys, whilst easily rejecting even moderately attractive and successful men.
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Modern men are weak slaves to modern comforts, and have failed this generation.
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Life has become a competitive race, and potential partners wait for the winners. If a person slacks off, they are letting other people sleep with their future partner. (Hamza's "Stop Letting Other Men Pipe Your Wife")
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Women are hypergamous by nature, and dating has devolved into nothing more than a winner-takes-all sexual marketplace.
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Looks, money and socioeconomic status are the only things that matter in dating because of an insular and more narcissistic culture.
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Economies are only getting worse, which widens the gap between the high-value men and average to below-average men.
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The social and economic trends that allowed the dating market to become skewed towards the most attractive people are only getting worse.
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The best option for most men is to therefore give up on dating, or work tirelessly for years in the hope of landing within the upper echelon of high-value men.
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Because of the lack of dating with the majority of men, who are feminine and weak due to modern comforts, there will be a record number of mass murderers and suicides- an "incel uprising".
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With the current socioeconomic climate causing all the problems listed, there won't be any more generations after Generation Z.
It is also mentioned that any comment which says anything positive about MGTOW will be deleted/user banned.
Most men who are refusing to socialize with women - especially by rejecting marriage - do so out of legal concern in Western countries.
Not so few of them were married before and had a difficult divorce, lost a lot of what they were working for.
This is of course not mentioned in this list above.
There are not only men who refuse to socialize with women, there are also plenty of women who refuse to enter a relationship with men.
Dating is clearly a risk. Nowadays it is very difficult to approach women for a long term relationship in Western countries - if you approach the wrong woman and she 'feels to be offended' - you might find yourself in big trouble, therefore dating on the workplace is a clear NO, if something is going wrong you might be jobless next day.
If she has already some boyfriends as her angry 'protectors' you might find yourself in a hospital...
Internet dating is a horror - most profiles of Western women are either a fake, created from the owner of the dating site to increase traffic, or if done by a real woman contain frequently very misleading information.
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Out of my own experience I can say it is very difficult to find any reasonable Western female partner - I never met a woman when I was still young who had not a considerable number of boyfriends, no one was 'available' 'feeling to be alone' etc. but some of them had already children from various unknown fathers...or women with plenty of debt and unable to manage money, overdemanding women asking for everything from me like diamonds or even for buying a thoroughbred for her horse riding hobby. LOL
About Western women in general, I think they are checking out men using the wrong criteria, dealing with them only superficially, just see the surface and not what is under it.
Criminals in Western countries are a good example, they ALWAYS have girlfriends and they often treat their girls in a rather bad, often violent way, but they still receive plenty of fan-mail in their prison cell - while ordinary men, just doing a basic job, are belittled...
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Many young men just fail totally to find any nice female friend for them in Western countries. And for what anyway? Divorce rate in my native country at its peak was 68 % in the cities and 51 % in rural areas.
A marriage ending in divorce is not counted as divorce, if it takes place after more than 10 year, it is considered as marriage contract fulfilled....
And why should I be ashamed to say I was one of them. I had a regular good job, healthy, no criminal record, was already the owner of a small condominium unit, had car and motorcycle... no way, I never made it up to a girlfriend for even 30 minutes.
Finally I was starting to look for dating foreign women - and what was not possible in my own country and in Europe, was not so difficult in Asia, I had contact with various women in various countries. I am now married since 45 years, never divorced.... and wife was not a poor bargirl, as some feminists who hate the idea of international/interracial marriage want to tell you.
Advice from Winston in this sense is a good advice, better forget about Western countries and look for a foreign wife. - Try to relocate.
I strongly support this idea about HappierAbroad. I will always be supportive to MGTOW issues too.
If you cannot move away and have to continue to live in Western countries, better be into MGTOW - no woman, no hassle.
