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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 11:35 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 10:57 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
@Winston
@Yohan

I wouldn't worry about Taiwan getting invaded anyway.
The Chinese army is "Junk paper tiger army" anyway and they got their ass handed to them by the Indian army in the border skirmish in the Himalayas. The Chinese are suffering from real estate bubble crisis and decoupling of it's manufacturing base. China isn't economically strong as ten years ago. And besides, most Chinese men are "spoiled emperors" anyway. Meaning that thanks to" one child policy", parents have been coddling their only son for past generations making them into wimps.

In addition, Taiwan is protected by the U.S and it is hard to transport thousands of men and land a sizable land force in the Taiwanese coasts. They will be shot down.
America's woke military is becoming a joke itself. I don't know why people think America's armed forces is any better. China don't have transsexuals in their military but America do. That's why they are begging their white male soldiers to come back. Plus America has lost a shit ton of wars and they only pick fights with weak countries. They got their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese because they thought they would be easy prey. America can't take on every war and support every nation, they are going to get a lot of hell from own population pretty soon. Just wait until the U.S. dollar becomes worthless, lol that military won't mean shit anymore. They'll have to deal with their own pissed off citizens and heat from all the countries they attacked. If China teams up with Russia, Iran, and NK while the U.S. is financially crippled it's game over for the U.S. they'll have no choice but to use Nukes or accept defeat their military would get decimated. There are a lot of angry nations that would love to take down America's arrogant ass.

Many people have claimed that the U.S. military can be overwhelmed even with help from Nato countries. A declining country can't win wars. That's like saying Rome is still strong enough to defend itself after it's collapse. They are throwing away all our money at helping some asshole wipe a bunch of people out. Then when the freebies run out, I'll have to deal with a bunch of angry illegals as well.
I agree with you too brother. All the working class white males, niggers and spics( the vast majority of the infantry) are wasted in ZOG fortune 500, Phony Wars on Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years. They all came with PTSDs because of all the IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan and because of the 9/11 Jewish false flag attack and enriching the Bush family and Haliburton people.
The U.S army has not enough jarheads to hold the ground because I guess the Pentagon has turn "Woke" and not enough gays and transgenders are
signing up. Still "Sleepy joe Dementia Biden" has promised to protect Taiwan from Chinese Invasion and the U.S Woke Army still has Nukes and their over priced air craft carriers(cost billions to maintain).

My main point is that even in Rome's decline, it still has some powers left.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/1 ... tons-wars/

And now read this to shine some more light on why America's military is in trouble.


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Re: Does Taiwan belong to China? Will China ever invade Taiwan?

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WanderingProtagonist wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 11:59 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 11:35 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 10:57 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
@Winston
@Yohan

I wouldn't worry about Taiwan getting invaded anyway.
The Chinese army is "Junk paper tiger army" anyway and they got their ass handed to them by the Indian army in the border skirmish in the Himalayas. The Chinese are suffering from real estate bubble crisis and decoupling of it's manufacturing base. China isn't economically strong as ten years ago. And besides, most Chinese men are "spoiled emperors" anyway. Meaning that thanks to" one child policy", parents have been coddling their only son for past generations making them into wimps.

In addition, Taiwan is protected by the U.S and it is hard to transport thousands of men and land a sizable land force in the Taiwanese coasts. They will be shot down.
America's woke military is becoming a joke itself. I don't know why people think America's armed forces is any better. China don't have transsexuals in their military but America do. That's why they are begging their white male soldiers to come back. Plus America has lost a shit ton of wars and they only pick fights with weak countries. They got their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese because they thought they would be easy prey. America can't take on every war and support every nation, they are going to get a lot of hell from own population pretty soon. Just wait until the U.S. dollar becomes worthless, lol that military won't mean shit anymore. They'll have to deal with their own pissed off citizens and heat from all the countries they attacked. If China teams up with Russia, Iran, and NK while the U.S. is financially crippled it's game over for the U.S. they'll have no choice but to use Nukes or accept defeat their military would get decimated. There are a lot of angry nations that would love to take down America's arrogant ass.

Many people have claimed that the U.S. military can be overwhelmed even with help from Nato countries. A declining country can't win wars. That's like saying Rome is still strong enough to defend itself after it's collapse. They are throwing away all our money at helping some asshole wipe a bunch of people out. Then when the freebies run out, I'll have to deal with a bunch of angry illegals as well.
I agree with you too brother. All the working class white males, niggers and spics( the vast majority of the infantry) are wasted in ZOG fortune 500, Phony Wars on Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years. They all came with PTSDs because of all the IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan and because of the 9/11 Jewish false flag attack and enriching the Bush family and Haliburton people.
The U.S army has not enough jarheads to hold the ground because I guess the Pentagon has turn "Woke" and not enough gays and transgenders are
signing up. Still "Sleepy joe Dementia Biden" has promised to protect Taiwan from Chinese Invasion and the U.S Woke Army still has Nukes and their over priced air craft carriers(cost billions to maintain).

My main point is that even in Rome's decline, it still has some powers left.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/1 ... tons-wars/

And now read this to shine some more light on why America's military is in trouble.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
menu anxiety? Is there such thing?
That's what you get when their lazy ass parent have substituted real parenting with an I-pad or a smart phone as a babysitter since birth.
Kids are so accustomed to pressing a button on the screen that they have lost their ability to interact with the real world.

Just the other day, I went to Wal mart, and saw two year olds glued to a tablet bigger than their entire body.
The Kid brain will turn into mush when they turn 18 now.
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Re: Does Taiwan belong to China? Will China ever invade Taiwan?

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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 12:11 pm
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 11:59 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 11:35 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 10:57 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
@Winston
@Yohan

I wouldn't worry about Taiwan getting invaded anyway.
The Chinese army is "Junk paper tiger army" anyway and they got their ass handed to them by the Indian army in the border skirmish in the Himalayas. The Chinese are suffering from real estate bubble crisis and decoupling of it's manufacturing base. China isn't economically strong as ten years ago. And besides, most Chinese men are "spoiled emperors" anyway. Meaning that thanks to" one child policy", parents have been coddling their only son for past generations making them into wimps.

In addition, Taiwan is protected by the U.S and it is hard to transport thousands of men and land a sizable land force in the Taiwanese coasts. They will be shot down.
America's woke military is becoming a joke itself. I don't know why people think America's armed forces is any better. China don't have transsexuals in their military but America do. That's why they are begging their white male soldiers to come back. Plus America has lost a shit ton of wars and they only pick fights with weak countries. They got their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese because they thought they would be easy prey. America can't take on every war and support every nation, they are going to get a lot of hell from own population pretty soon. Just wait until the U.S. dollar becomes worthless, lol that military won't mean shit anymore. They'll have to deal with their own pissed off citizens and heat from all the countries they attacked. If China teams up with Russia, Iran, and NK while the U.S. is financially crippled it's game over for the U.S. they'll have no choice but to use Nukes or accept defeat their military would get decimated. There are a lot of angry nations that would love to take down America's arrogant ass.

Many people have claimed that the U.S. military can be overwhelmed even with help from Nato countries. A declining country can't win wars. That's like saying Rome is still strong enough to defend itself after it's collapse. They are throwing away all our money at helping some asshole wipe a bunch of people out. Then when the freebies run out, I'll have to deal with a bunch of angry illegals as well.
I agree with you too brother. All the working class white males, niggers and spics( the vast majority of the infantry) are wasted in ZOG fortune 500, Phony Wars on Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years. They all came with PTSDs because of all the IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan and because of the 9/11 Jewish false flag attack and enriching the Bush family and Haliburton people.
The U.S army has not enough jarheads to hold the ground because I guess the Pentagon has turn "Woke" and not enough gays and transgenders are
signing up. Still "Sleepy joe Dementia Biden" has promised to protect Taiwan from Chinese Invasion and the U.S Woke Army still has Nukes and their over priced air craft carriers(cost billions to maintain).

My main point is that even in Rome's decline, it still has some powers left.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/1 ... tons-wars/

And now read this to shine some more light on why America's military is in trouble.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
menu anxiety? Is there such thing?
That's what you get when their lazy ass parent have substituted real parenting with an I-pad or a smart phone as a babysitter since birth.
Kids are so accustomed to pressing a button on the screen that they have lost their ability to interact with the real world.

Just the other day, I went to Wal mart, and saw two year olds glued to a tablet bigger than their entire body.
The Kid brain will turn into mush when they turn 18 now.
This sort of stuff really makes you wonder a lot about the future...But I don't believe there is one anymore.
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WanderingProtagonist wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 1:28 pm
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 12:11 pm
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 11:59 am
Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 11:35 am
WanderingProtagonist wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 10:57 am


America's woke military is becoming a joke itself. I don't know why people think America's armed forces is any better. China don't have transsexuals in their military but America do. That's why they are begging their white male soldiers to come back. Plus America has lost a shit ton of wars and they only pick fights with weak countries. They got their asses handed to them by the Vietnamese because they thought they would be easy prey. America can't take on every war and support every nation, they are going to get a lot of hell from own population pretty soon. Just wait until the U.S. dollar becomes worthless, lol that military won't mean shit anymore. They'll have to deal with their own pissed off citizens and heat from all the countries they attacked. If China teams up with Russia, Iran, and NK while the U.S. is financially crippled it's game over for the U.S. they'll have no choice but to use Nukes or accept defeat their military would get decimated. There are a lot of angry nations that would love to take down America's arrogant ass.

Many people have claimed that the U.S. military can be overwhelmed even with help from Nato countries. A declining country can't win wars. That's like saying Rome is still strong enough to defend itself after it's collapse. They are throwing away all our money at helping some asshole wipe a bunch of people out. Then when the freebies run out, I'll have to deal with a bunch of angry illegals as well.
I agree with you too brother. All the working class white males, niggers and spics( the vast majority of the infantry) are wasted in ZOG fortune 500, Phony Wars on Iraq and Afghanistan over 20 years. They all came with PTSDs because of all the IEDs in Iraq and Afghanistan and because of the 9/11 Jewish false flag attack and enriching the Bush family and Haliburton people.
The U.S army has not enough jarheads to hold the ground because I guess the Pentagon has turn "Woke" and not enough gays and transgenders are
signing up. Still "Sleepy joe Dementia Biden" has promised to protect Taiwan from Chinese Invasion and the U.S Woke Army still has Nukes and their over priced air craft carriers(cost billions to maintain).

My main point is that even in Rome's decline, it still has some powers left.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2023/1 ... tons-wars/

And now read this to shine some more light on why America's military is in trouble.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
menu anxiety? Is there such thing?
That's what you get when their lazy ass parent have substituted real parenting with an I-pad or a smart phone as a babysitter since birth.
Kids are so accustomed to pressing a button on the screen that they have lost their ability to interact with the real world.

Just the other day, I went to Wal mart, and saw two year olds glued to a tablet bigger than their entire body.
The Kid brain will turn into mush when they turn 18 now.
This sort of stuff really makes you wonder a lot about the future...But I don't believe there is one anymore.
Nope. We're f*cked unless the Military overthrows the ZOG government.. and turn everything "woke" and plant rainbow flags everywhere! :lol: :wink: It's a good day to be gay! :lol: :D Let's paint the pentagon in rainbow color!
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Re: Does Taiwan belong to China? Will China ever invade Taiwan?

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Natural_Born_Cynic wrote:
December 22nd, 2023, 9:40 am
@Winston
@Yohan
I wouldn't worry about Taiwan getting invaded anyway.
The Chinese army is "Junk paper tiger army" anyway and they got their ass handed to them by the Indian army in the border skirmish in the Himalayas. The Chinese are suffering from real estate bubble crisis and decoupling of it's manufacturing base. China isn't economically strong as ten years ago. And besides, most Chinese men are "spoiled emperors" anyway. Meaning that thanks to" one child policy", parents have been coddling their only son for past generations making them into wimps.
In addition, Taiwan is protected by the U.S and it is hard to transport thousands of men and land a sizable land force in the Taiwanese coasts. They will be shot down.
Taiwan is sharing a sea border with Japan, and the nearest not disputed island (Yonaguni) is only 108 km (58 Nmi) east of Taiwan and a Japanese military outpost. More than 2500 Japanese, military staff and local civilians are living there. It is possible for USA and Japan to support Taiwan easily by sea and air using this route.

Taiwan is indeed a little bit nearer to Japan than to China (108 km vs. 160 km)

Taiwan is full with weapons and a large part of it is very mountainous - the highest mountain is Yu Shan, 玉山, 3.952 m (12.966 ft)

It is an island and is not so easy to invade, never in the past any Communist from China mainland was in charge of Taiwan.
Only few places on the Western side are suitable for an invasion and they are often secured with 'anti landing barricades' and concrete bunkers.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/ ... with-china
How prepared is Taiwan for a war with China?
Dwarfed by China’s population and military strength, the self-ruled island has been improving training and stockpiling military equipment.
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In 2023 alone, Taiwan ordered $1.55bn in weapons and services from the US, including infrared tracking systems for F-16 jets, munitions, spare parts for aircraft and technical support.

Other purchases during Tsai’s tenure have included drones, anti-tank munitions systems, Paladin Medium Self-Propelled Howitzer artillery systems, AIM-9X Sidewinder air-to-air missiles, Stinger surface-to-air missiles, MK-48 Mod6 Advanced Technology heavyweight torpedoes, AGM-154C JSOW air-to-ground missiles as well as field communication equipment and training packages, according to purchase orders approved by the US State Department.
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Interesting video about the ways that China could easily take Taiwan without firing a shot. Interesting. I wonder why they haven't done it already then?



Keep in mind that Taiwanese are not fighters at all like Ukrainians are. If you start a confrontation with a Taiwanese person for instance, they always run away and back down because they fear conflict and live in fear all the time. Most people there still wear covid masks even though they don't have to. Because they are wusses and afraid of every little thing. They are even afraid of the rain and act like it's lava flowing down or something. Very weak. Not trying to sound offensive, but it's true. Go to Taiwan and you will see what I mean. They are not fighters at all and could never resist an invasion, contrary to what the West claims. It's all talk, no substance.
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Winston wrote:
April 1st, 2025, 3:56 pm
Interesting video about the ways that China could easily take Taiwan without firing a shot. Interesting. I wonder why they haven't done it already then?

Keep in mind that Taiwanese are not fighters at all like Ukrainians are.
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Very weak. Not trying to sound offensive, but it's true. Go to Taiwan and you will see what I mean. They are not fighters at all and could never resist an invasion, contrary to what the West claims. It's all talk, no substance.
Winston, what you say about the Taiwan Chinese, you could say the same about the mainland Chinese too.

Why China did not take over Taiwan yet? This is because their government is a bit more careful with money than the Russians. Chinese before they do something will always ask what is the risk something is going wrong, how much will we gain, how much will be lost.... is it really worth financially to do this or that? China is studying all the time what happens to Russia now, and even in the United Nation, China was not voting for Russia, it remained silent....

Macao, HongKong - break the contract instead of 50 years lets do it in 25 years. Risk? Not much...More or less nothing...

India, try to occupy what China is considering as 'South Tibet' - India was fighting back and the territory is still India..called like before Arunachal Pradesh....

Bhutan - just settle down Chinese in 3 tiny provinces, don't talk much about it, what can Bhutan do about it....nothing,

Philippines, just block Filipino fishermen to enter the South China Sea and construct military facilities on all small islands, claiming little by little

Vietnam - be a bit more careful, as Vietnamese will fight back....

Japan, just harrass them all the time, but if the Japanese Coast Guard is showing up, just disappear....

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TAIWAN, the island is not so easy to take as you might think. Unlike Ukraine, there are no land borders, the island is full with weapons,
Yes, China could attack Taiwan, but the damages between Quanzhou and Xiamen will be considerable.

And Taiwan moved a lot of its technical knowhow factories to Japan already. And Japan is only 110 km (70 miles) away from Taiwan, don't think this waterway can be controlled so easily by China.

From Taiwan to Philippines the waterway is only 161 km, (100 miles) - I think USA will block that...
Europe will cancel many trade contracts if China is really invading Taiwan.

China so far did not invade Taiwan....
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