Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause?

[Lorenzo]

I have a deep question that we should all ask. I know this isn't an easy question to answer, but still you gotta wonder about it. The question is:

Why are we misfits in America? What's the root cause or problem? How come other people are able to thrive in America -- get married, raise children, establish a career or steady job, etc? What's the difference between us and them?

I know we've all postulated the following explanations:

-- We are too authentic and down to earth and don't fit into the fake American culture or social life.
-- We are nonconformists and freethinkers who don't fit into the system.
-- We are introverts in an extroverted society like the US that doesn't understand us.
-- We have aspergers syndrome and therefore are classified as having a "mental disorder".
-- We lack social skills or "game" and don't know how to "act cool".
-- We hate trash culture or mindless entertainment such as sports, reality TV shows, modern music, degenerate culture, tattoos, etc.
-- We are simply unattractive in both looks and personality.
-- We are nerds and geeks.

I think you touched on all of it...these are the various reasons. For me I can play the game however I chose not to. I am a non-conformist and wanted something better than an overweight, bitchy and entitled American woman. I broke the mold, friends and family no doubt looked down on me for it and stepped away from me (which kind of hurt), but I had to follow my own path to happiness. I can't do something just because everyone else does and says it is the right way to go.

My buddy and I went through divorce at the same time. He then dated an American lady 1 yr older than him and she looks like his Mom and lectured me to do the same...but I found a hot, submissive Asian lady that looks like a young mistress

[Jeremy]

Truth compulsion. A complete inability to bullshit ourselves. The truth is most American men are living in abject sexual poverty. It's just that no one ever talks about it. We're all supposed to pretend that girls are handing out sex like Halloween candy and we're having a grand ol' time.

I could EASILY lie like every other 20-something guy and claim I’m slaying hotties, and NO ONE would question it. I could EASILY post instagram photos of me hugging hot female "friends" and smiling, and people would assume we're banging. It's all just smoke and mirrors though. None of them will f**k me.

One of these female "friends" recently suggested I try pulling drunk sluts from Tinder. “Getting laid’s as easy as 1-2-3 teehee." I tried explaining that the only girls I matched with were clinically obese, but she didn’t want to hear it.

[Banano]

Drunk sluts on tinder?? Or clubs?


Anyway, I have femele friends and they say the same thing that getting laid is easy, 'just go to club and pick up drunk sluts'

Why they see it that way? Its not like women will go for any guy who approaches when shes drunk.

[Ghost]

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[Jeremy]

Drunk sluts on tinder?? Or clubs?


Anyway, I have femele friends and they say the same thing that getting laid is easy, 'just go to club and pick up drunk sluts'

Why they see it that way? Its not like women will go for any guy who approaches when shes drunk.

Her other guy "friends" - all loud frat bro types from what I can gather - arrange club dates with Tinder girls, get them drunk, and then bang them. Allegedly. She thinks this method should work for me. Not sure how it would, since I didn't even get one match during the two weeks I was on that app. Except for one obese girl I accidently swiped right to.

Of course my female "friend" has never met any of these girls. No doubt these guys are slumming it with girls much less attractive than themselves. I mean, if they were pulling young cuties, wouldn't they want to show them off to their social circle? Or they're just plain lying.

[yick]

I am not American but life back home bored me. Being there was boring and soul destroying, their interests of going to the pub and their crappy toytown obsessions of their sports team beating the sports team in the next town was boring as well as the drugs/violence/alcohol epidemics that were (and are still...) there, I hated the weather and there was nothing there that I wanted to do to earn a living and put down roots.

I knew there was something out there that was better and that would suit me more and I wanted to find it, that was exciting to me. That there was a place that would suit me and my ideas of a happy life and that place does exist (thank God!)

I always wanted away from being a kid. I am reasonable looking, I am quite funny, I still have friends there who I go and see when I am back home, I get on with my parents and my outer family, I have tattoos, I like to go to the gym and I train a lot and when I go to the gym back home, they're always happy to see me in there.

There was nothing that was going to keep me at home except for a drastic change in global warming but even then I would have left - there was no reason why I couldn't leave, I am pretty much sane and have a degree and a postgrad degree.

I was bored and I wanted something different so I left.

[Winston]

Guys I think I found an important clue and indicator as to why I am a misfit, not by choice of course. If u take a bunch of pendulum devices and put them on the table, u will find that they gradually move to the same rhythm in sync. There are YouTube videos showing this. It seems that even inanimate objects conform to the same rhythm by nature. It's kind of like how women who live together have the same menstrual cycles. So people don't choose to conform. It's their nature to sync to the same rhythm by nature.

Now the thing is whenever I am in class or group that's moving in sync and step together, like an aerobics class or marching bad or even karate class, everyone seems to be able to move in rhythm with the same steps at the same time. Except for me. No matter how hard I try I can't move in the same steps at the same time as everyone else. If everyone steps the right foot forward, I step the left foot forward or I am a few seconds behind. I've never understood why everyone is able to move in the same rhythm and timing in a group but I cannot at all.

I thought it was because I was just uncoordinated and not athletic or good at sports. But I think it goes deeper than that. Somehow I cannot conform to the same rhythm as others even when I try. This means I may not be human or be on a totally different frequency as everyone else. As though I'm not the same species as others or not in this dimension. How else do u explain this? How come I can't do what normal people can do? Something must be off about me. But what exactly? Plus if even inanimate objects conform to the same rhythm like pendulum devices do, then it could be that I am not even from this same material reality matrix right?

This indicates that I'm really different from others, maybe different species too, and not by choice either. No one wants to be abnormal or a misfit, especially if they are a kid or teen. I certainly didn't. I was forced into it somehow.

Maybe I don't belong to this matrix or I'm not from this reality? The above is a strong physical indicator and proof. What do u think? Do any of you guys experience the same thing? If so how do u explain it? There must be something fundamentally different about me if I can't move in rhythm like normal people can.

Also, normal people can do the waltz or Cha Cha or a ballroom dance and dance in rhythm with their partner too. But I keep stepping on her toes and can't figure out how to move in rhythm with my dance partner. No one knows why. Do you?

[galii]

Try Zumba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqHka4 ... lJ-tI63iBw
zumba for autism

[Natural_Born_Cynic]

@Winston

The hell with America. No offense Winston, but just go abroad already. Stop trying to get validation from those NPC zombie ghouls who has intelligence of a brick. You and them are different like oil and water. Forcing yourself onto them won't work. How many times you make threads like this?

[Winston]

I just sent this to the host of deep thoughts radio, who is a really cool open minded deep dude that you would love to have a drink with. You can check out his channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@deepthoughtsradio . He has deep talks and rants on a lot of topics and has good analysis skills. He has a deep talk about human interaction and our need for it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGfWRG_R8Ws . That's where I posted the comment and question below.


"To the host: I have an unusual question. You've said in your talks that we may all be in different reality bubbles or dimensions. I have thought that for a long time too. It's the only way to explain the following. Since 1983 I've always been ostracized socially in America. I can't get a decent dating or social life. Cliques are never inclusive to me. Americans (especially women) put up this wall to me like cats and dogs put up to each other because they aren't meant to connect. But when I started going abroad to Russia, Europe and Asia, I noticed the opposite. I was able to get an abundant dating and social life, like you see in the movies. Just by going to a foreign culture. The different was mind blowing. I thought I was dreaming. But it was real. I swear. So my question is: How come normal people don't talk about this or report such experiences? The only explanations I can think of are: 1) I am in a different reality bubble or dimension than others, like you postulated. 2) The egregore in America doesn't like me so it gives me bad experiences and it always feels like everything is against me, like I'm always against the flow and grain. Every country has a different egregore governing it. 3) I am too eccentric for America, which is a very conformist country, or I have Asperger's Syndrome or mild autism. America is very conformist so they don't like eccentric people unless they are rich and famous (e.g. Jack Nicholson) but other countries are more forgiving of it and more chill.

What do you think? I've told my friends that the above are the only explanations I can think of, but the first two explanations are too out there for most people. The thing is, you and I are deep thinkers which automatically makes us misfits in America, because Americans tend to be on a very airheadish, degenerate frequency (esp compared to Europeans) so deep thinkers and deep people are automatically misfits and ostracized. You must have noticed this right? Why haven't you mentioned it? Also if you are very sensitive and deep feeling then you won't like America either because America is not for the sensitive. Better you go to somewhere soulful like Spain or Italy or the Philippines where you never feel lonely or disconnected, even when you sit alone in a cafe. That feeling is priceless and much better for your mental health. Have you traveled the world and noticed these things too?"

[hb2345]

-- We are too authentic and down to earth and don't fit into the fake American culture or social life.

There's nothing authentic and down to earth about your sniveling, opportunistic, p***y hounding behavior. Your whole entire persona is fake. Going around the world, posing as a nice American passport guy just to get laid. A true authentic down to earth Asian man would've been married and have grand kids by your age.

-- We are nonconformists and freethinkers who don't fit into the system.

A non-conformist and a freethinker is someone like Nicloa Tesla or Giordano Bruno. You're just some pathetic incel and a social reject.

-- We are introverts in an extroverted society like the US that doesn't understand us.

You're not an introvert, retard. Introvert is someone who avoids people and stays home. There's nothing introverted about your lifestyle. You're as extroverted as it gets.

-- We have aspergers syndrome and therefore are classified as having a "mental disorder".

Or maybe you're just a giant, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic cunt who thinks he's special and better/unique/different than everyone else. You're not. But yeah, come up with more fake mental disorders like assburgers to cope better.

-- We lack social skills or "game" and don't know how to "act cool".

Sounds like a YOU problem. Maybe you should learn. Having social skills is crucial for human development.

-- We hate trash culture or mindless entertainment such as sports, reality TV shows, modern music, degenerate culture, tattoos, etc.

Hounding the globe for p***y is not exactly the deepest, most profound, intellectually stimulating activity either. How many scientific books have you published lately, Einstein? How many theatrical plays have you written? How many classic music performances have you conducted? Stop pretending, poser. We all know your free time is dedicated to trips to the mall/beach/cafe with your primitive, one dimensional, brain dead, consumer happy, leeching Filipino girlfriend.

-- We are simply unattractive in both looks and personality.

No arguments there.

-- We are nerds and geeks.

Obsessing over anything is never a good thing.


The real reason you are a misfit in America, and everywhere else in the world for that matter, is because your entire existence and self-worth centers and revolves around the p***y. You are not your own man. You don't live your life by your own rules, views, and values. You have no personality, no individuality, and no free thought. You just follow the norms imposed onto you by the lemming society you hate so much. You are not different.

[kangarunner]

He has a deep talk about human interaction and our need for it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGfWRG_R8Ws . That's where I posted the comment and question below.

I checked the video and he deleted your comments Winston! @Winston

[Winston]

-- We are too authentic and down to earth and don't fit into the fake American culture or social life.

There's nothing authentic and down to earth about your sniveling, opportunistic, p***y hounding behavior. Your whole entire persona is fake. Going around the world, posing as a nice American passport guy just to get laid. A true authentic down to earth Asian man would've been married and have grand kids by your age.

-- We are nonconformists and freethinkers who don't fit into the system.

A non-conformist and a freethinker is someone like Nicloa Tesla or Giordano Bruno. You're just some pathetic incel and a social reject.

-- We are introverts in an extroverted society like the US that doesn't understand us.

You're not an introvert, retard. Introvert is someone who avoids people and stays home. There's nothing introverted about your lifestyle. You're as extroverted as it gets.

-- We have aspergers syndrome and therefore are classified as having a "mental disorder".

Or maybe you're just a giant, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic cunt who thinks he's special and better/unique/different than everyone else. You're not. But yeah, come up with more fake mental disorders like assburgers to cope better.

-- We lack social skills or "game" and don't know how to "act cool".

Sounds like a YOU problem. Maybe you should learn. Having social skills is crucial for human development.

-- We hate trash culture or mindless entertainment such as sports, reality TV shows, modern music, degenerate culture, tattoos, etc.

Hounding the globe for p***y is not exactly the deepest, most profound, intellectually stimulating activity either. How many scientific books have you published lately, Einstein? How many theatrical plays have you written? How many classic music performances have you conducted? Stop pretending, poser. We all know your free time is dedicated to trips to the mall/beach/cafe with your primitive, one dimensional, brain dead, consumer happy, leeching Filipino girlfriend.

-- We are simply unattractive in both looks and personality.

No arguments there.

-- We are nerds and geeks.

Obsessing over anything is never a good thing.


The real reason you are a misfit in America, and everywhere else in the world for that matter, is because your entire existence and self-worth centers and revolves around the p***y. You are not your own man. You don't live your life by your own rules, views, and values. You have no personality, no individuality, and no free thought. You just follow the norms imposed onto you by the lemming society you hate so much. You are not different.

These are insults with no basis. You are here only to troll and trash. You make false statements about me too. Everyone that knows me says I'm the most honest authentic person they know. See these quotes about me here: www.happierabroad.com/FreethinkingAsian.htm

America didn't reject me because I'm a loser. If I'm a loser why do cops always see me as harmless and pay me respect and think I'm a good asian american citizen? I'm rejected because it's the matrix script and I am also a targeted individual. Not targeted by government agencies, but metaphysically by the Notnilc Matrix. That's why I always experience Murphy's Law. For example if I show up at a meeting on time, everyone is late, but if I show up late then everyone is on time. That kind of stuff happens all the time.

Since 1983 there's been a cold wall and curse on me in America. All of a sudden 30 kids in my class were all against me and persecuting me and bullying me. It was traumatizing and came out of nowhere, even though I was kind and gentle and did nothing wrong. It was 100 percent illogical and unjust. Only a curse could explain that. No one has ever explained that logically. It was part of the matrix script. A script is running everything in reality. That's obvious. Just like a script is running the 40 trillion cells in your body, they are not moving around randomly. If the matrix designates you as a misfit or loser, then that's what you experience, that's what will happen. Probably it was my destiny to be happier abroad and start this movement. That's why those things happened. Everything happens for a reason. There is no randomness. Every enlightened person eventually figures that out.

How come average normal people don't complain about a force field around them and people being closed off and antisocial and women being unapproachable? Because we all experience a different reality, and normies are treated different and see things differently. I am in a different reality bubble where what I say is true. Reality is not fixed or linear, it is multidimensional.

The world is not just and innocent people do suffer and there are victims. Why are you gaslighting me and victim blaming me? That's illogical and cruel and unjust and trollish. If you continue to do that, you will have to be banned because you are wasting my time with these trollish insults and contributing nothing useful.

[Winston]

-- We are too authentic and down to earth and don't fit into the fake American culture or social life.

There's nothing authentic and down to earth about your sniveling, opportunistic, p***y hounding behavior. Your whole entire persona is fake. Going around the world, posing as a nice American passport guy just to get laid. A true authentic down to earth Asian man would've been married and have grand kids by your age.

-- We are nonconformists and freethinkers who don't fit into the system.

A non-conformist and a freethinker is someone like Nicloa Tesla or Giordano Bruno. You're just some pathetic incel and a social reject.

-- We are introverts in an extroverted society like the US that doesn't understand us.

You're not an introvert, retard. Introvert is someone who avoids people and stays home. There's nothing introverted about your lifestyle. You're as extroverted as it gets.

-- We have aspergers syndrome and therefore are classified as having a "mental disorder".

Or maybe you're just a giant, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic cunt who thinks he's special and better/unique/different than everyone else. You're not. But yeah, come up with more fake mental disorders like assburgers to cope better.

-- We lack social skills or "game" and don't know how to "act cool".

Sounds like a YOU problem. Maybe you should learn. Having social skills is crucial for human development.

-- We hate trash culture or mindless entertainment such as sports, reality TV shows, modern music, degenerate culture, tattoos, etc.

Hounding the globe for p***y is not exactly the deepest, most profound, intellectually stimulating activity either. How many scientific books have you published lately, Einstein? How many theatrical plays have you written? How many classic music performances have you conducted? Stop pretending, poser. We all know your free time is dedicated to trips to the mall/beach/cafe with your primitive, one dimensional, brain dead, consumer happy, leeching Filipino girlfriend.

-- We are simply unattractive in both looks and personality.

No arguments there.

-- We are nerds and geeks.

Obsessing over anything is never a good thing.


The real reason you are a misfit in America, and everywhere else in the world for that matter, is because your entire existence and self-worth centers and revolves around the p***y. You are not your own man. You don't live your life by your own rules, views, and values. You have no personality, no individuality, and no free thought. You just follow the norms imposed onto you by the lemming society you hate so much. You are not different.

I have 10 unique accomplishments remember? See here:

http://www.happierabroad.com/WinstonWu.htm

How many do you have? Zero? I am definitely not average or like others. Everyone will tell you that.

I never said I was traveling around looking for p***y. Where do you get that? But sex is a need and real men need sex, even I do. It's natural and normal. Men need food and sex. Why do you have a problem with that? It's nature. Animals need sex too. Without the need for sex, the human race would go extinct. This is common knowledge. What is wrong with that? What are you griping about? Aren't you a man too? Why do you thrive off of hate? It's natural to need sex, but it's not natural to spread lies on a forum about someone like you are doing. I am natural, you are not.

I never said I was a sex addict. But I need sex sometimes and real men need it too. If I can't get it in one place, I can go to another. That's the beauty of it. That's happier abroad. You can go down to Mexico to do that too. Everyone outside the USA understands that men needing sex is natural and normal. In Latin America no one faults a man for wanting sex. Everyone knows it's in their DNA and hardwired. What is your problem? You are weird.

If I am a misfit in some countries, that is not my fault. I can only be who I am. I can only be genuine. Every wise person knows that. So what the heck is your problem?

Some people are incompatible. There is no one country like America where everyone fits in. Even Rock did not resonate with America. No one wants to be a misfit. Everyone wants to belong. It's human nature. But when everyone puts up a force field and you don't fit in anywhere and don't resonate with any social groups, it's not your fault. That's like saying that there must be a problem with cats because they can't hang out with dogs, etc. They are different and not meant to connect. Or saying that there is something wrong with ketchup because it doesn't taste good with ice cream. That's not true. Those flavors aren't meant to mix. Simple as that.

If you are a misfit in a culture then everything feels off, you can't be yourself and you can't connect with anyone and every little thing goes wrong and the flow goes against you, as if everything you do is against the grain. It has nothing to do with being a loser. You just don't fit in. Fortunately I only experience that in Taiwan and USA. Not in most other countries. That's the point.

The good news is that outside of Taiwan and USA, my dating and social life is much more NORMAL and ABUNDANT. That's my honest experience and that's my message on HA. You calling me a loser doesn't change that fact. So I don't understand what your point is. If you are here just to bash me for no reason, then please leave or else you will eventually be banned. I will have no choice. No one wants garbage laying around, and neither do I.

If you hate the truth and honesty, then this forum is not for you.

Also if you don't like me, then you should not be here. There is a fine line between love and hate. If you hate something constantly, then deep down you may love it, because if you truly had no interest in something you would ignore it like normal people do. For example I don't like football but I don't waste time bashing it. I just ignore it and never think about it. Simple as that. If you really dislike me you should not give me any attention at all or waste any time on me.

[Winston]

@hb2345

Let's say I'm a loser. Ok then what should I do? Kill myself? Follow BS New Age advice from the self help movement which every smart person here knows is bogus and doesn't work? Loving yourself or thinking positive thoughts isn't gonna accomplish anything or change anything, at least not in this case. The only thing I can do is to go abroad where I am treated better and can be myself and feel comfortable and feel confident and connect with people naturally and have a decent dating/social life, rather than loneliness and alienation and feeling frozen and paralyzed. Very simple. What is your problem and what is your point? What do you suggest? That I stay in America and thrive and become a winner? If that is not my destiny then it won't happen. It's the fault of the matrix and the universe and God and whatever higher forces put us here. Not our fault. It is what it is. If you don't have a point then please leave. It seems all you want to do is to make others feel bad about themselves. You have no solutions to anything.

At least I can think outside the box and suggest changing location as a solution, whereas everyone else wants you to stay in America and try to fix things and change your thoughts and creating your own reality in your own miserable place that you don't fit into, which doesn't work as we all know. So I deserve kudos for thinking outside the box and having a unique solution, when everyone else in the self help movement, truth movement, and new age movement, cannot see my solution and can only spout BS and useless solutions such as "loving yourself" and "creating your own reality" which doesn't really work. But other people can only think inside the box, not outside the box like me and the passport bros can. Even truthers and freethinkers cannot think outside the box. All they can do is blame the government and talk about useless conspiracies which doesn't change your life or help you in any way and is bad for your mental health and just fear porn ultimately. So that makes me the ultimate freethinker I guess? I don't know.

However my message is just basic simple logic. If you are on the Titanic and it is sinking, then the logical solution is to get off the ship, not stay on and try to save it, like everyone else does. It's basic logic. I don't know why everyone is blind to it, including Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones. It seems like a reality breakdown. I could be in a video game where no one is real except me and you are all AI video game characters who can only say what you are programmed to say. Who knows. That can never be ruled out if this is a simulation.