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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Yohan wrote:
January 6th, 2025, 7:16 am
It seems this AFA lawsuit-website is not very active, likely already abandoned.
The website Huddo posted is run by Joe Rickards.. He's been pushing the idea that there's going to be some kind of class action lawsuit against AFA for years but he's only peddled this idea this to try to get new clients for his business Match Guaranty.

Let me tell you Huddo, there is NEVER, NEVER EVER EVER going to be a class action against AFA. If you want to you could sue John Adams personally for your financial loss (getting scammed by gold-diggers on your AFA tour) but I doubt you'd be successful. You can sound the drums all you want about AFA being a scam but you are better to use your time and energy in legitimate sites like the one you posted (DM group).


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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Huddo is sour grapes because he went on a AFA tour and they hooked him up with a professional dater. She took him to the cleaners.

Shame on you @Winston for still being associated with AFA
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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publicduende wrote:
January 6th, 2025, 12:52 am
Huddo wrote:
January 5th, 2025, 4:48 pm
More details :- It’s a 100 million dollar class action and any victims of the scam AFA PPL sites can join at no personal financial cost by clicking this link :-

https://ukrainedating.ca/international- ... om-reviews

“The Plaintiffs believe they have sufficient evidence to bring A Foreign Affair up on the following charges; 157 counts of Fraud, Intent to Commit Fraud, Identity Fraud, Conspiracy to Commit Fraud, Violence Against Women, Sexting, Distribution of Child Pornography, Prostitution, Child Prostitution, Child Sex Trafficking, Statutory Rape, International Ban Fraud, IMBRA Fraud, International Money Laundering, Racketeering, Tax Avoidance.“

Winston, you need to remove AFA immediately from your forum.
This site is probably named in the lawsuit :-

“ EXHIBIT B, under separate cover, consist of 133 sites currently active, either owned by, or otherwise affiliated with A Foreign Affair, which share the same database of women; 98 are pay-per-letter websites, 13 are tour promotion sites and 22 now out-of-service sites.”

Has anyone booked a HA (AFA) tour? Do you know the outcome of their trip? Most men get hopelessly scammed by prodaters on these tours, could you personally be held liable for their losses?
Wow, even "Distribution of Child Pornography, Child Prostitution, Child Sex Trafficking"!
It will be interesting to what’s in the 158 pages of AFA internal company emails that a former employee / whistleblower provided to lawyers.

Just so everyone is on the same page, I’ve known about this for several years. Yes the website hasn’t been updated for a while, but its purpose was to encourage victims to join the class action and it’s been successful. Regular updates have been made public, the last was a week or so ago and claimed that over 70 of the 100 class action participants they are going to court with have been interviewed and processed by their lawyer. As with many class action suits it can take years to prepare, but they are getting closer everyday.
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Voyager1 wrote:
January 13th, 2025, 5:52 am
Huddo is sour grapes because he went on a AFA tour and they hooked him up with a professional dater. She took him to the cleaners.

Shame on you @Winston for still being associated with AFA
I wouldn’t be caught dead on a tour. You’ve been to Ukraine, you must know what the locals say about AFA customers as they drive past in their tour bus?… AFA has its usefulness keeping delusional men away from the real women and dating sites. My issue is that my country is now blocking visas from couples who meet via PPL sites like AFA and they don’t understand the difference between the scam industry and genuine dating sites. Now when you apply for a visa for your partner, the visa website warns men about dating FSU women and the scam industry. You can’t really blame them when AFA publishes YouTube videos of sham marriages in the making for all the world to see.

AFA obviously needed at least one “positive” outcome at any cost on the first tour back in Ukraine since the war started. They convinced a woman to go against FSU dating traditions and ask a customer on a date the day after they met at a social. On the date he basically proposed to a stranger and after the date she traveled back to the Karkiv region instead of getting to know her new fiancé. That night AFA encouraged him to travel alone to an area close to the frontline that’s seeing regular bombing, to meet her parents and start the visa process. Being a one week wonder is risky enough, but this guy is the first one day wonder I’ve seen in many years. Desperation all round!!!… Give it 6 months and he’ll be participant 101 in the lawsuit.
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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There's no lawsuit and never will be. Get over that. It's your first step to your healing journey
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Huddo, you may not be the victim of a professional dater but you are the victim of PPL scam. Why would you pay for letters when electronic mail is essentially free? Shame on you John Adams for putting him through this. Shame on you Winston for having the AFA advertisements on your site
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Voyager1 wrote:
January 13th, 2025, 11:23 am
Huddo, you may not be the victim of a professional dater but you are the victim of PPL scam. Why would you pay for letters when electronic mail is essentially free? Shame on you John Adams for putting him through this. Shame on you Winston for having the AFA advertisements on your site
You must have me mistaken for another member, or misread a past post where I set up some PPL profiles on AFA and other sites along the lines of this :- “I’m a 400lbs 75 year old HIV positive man who needs a woman to financially support me, while I become the world hotdog eating champion” (I’ve also been the North Korean Supreme leader and sex dungeon master on AFA). Not surprisingly hundreds of the hottest 21 year old models in Ukraine and Russia all wanted to marry me :lol:

The most I ever paid was $50 for a month subscription on the DM site and was off the site in less than an hour video chatting with a nice woman I’m still friends with. IMO it’s the best FSU dating site when it comes to scam protection, they are very proactive. The site I’ve used the most is completely free and again you can leave immediately for WhatsApp etc… I met my current partner on that site. It’s just a pity she can get a visa because of wankers like John.

Re:- the law suit, we’ll just have to wait and see. They seem positive that once they have interviewed number 100 it will proceed and the lawyer has obviously put a lot of time in so he needs it to go ahead (no win no fee). AFA are aware of it and have been sending cease and desist letters, I’m guessing for the public release of damaging information surrounding the case. If I hear any more updates I’ll post them.
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Voyager1 wrote:
January 13th, 2025, 11:23 am
Huddo, you may not be the victim of a professional dater but you are the victim of PPL scam. Why would you pay for letters when electronic mail is essentially free? Shame on you John Adams for putting him through this. Shame on you Winston for having the AFA advertisements on your site
This is the electronic version of a much older scam, started when the Internet wasn't there and letters were just that, paper letters. What the man pays for is the privilege to correspond with the chosen woman and, obviously, a hefty "translation fee". In most if not all cases, the woman who lent her likeness to the online catalogue doesn't even know the letter, let alone the man, exist. The replies are penned by a couple of "translators", with generic pleasantries. If the man is lucky, the same "translator" is assigned to them, so the replies might be somehow context-aware.

All in all, there's no greater fool than he whom wants to be fooled. These men are gullible, they feed on the dream of being loved back by beautiful blonde vixens 30 years younger than them, and it takes very little on the agency's side to keep the dream alive and the cash flowing.
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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I just checked AFA's and apparently they're offering a March 2025 tour to Odessa - Kiev.

https://a-foreign-affair.com/tour/order/order.shtml

Apparently you have to sign some kind of waiver in case you get blown up. Oh by the way there are no flights into Kiev. I'd assume you have to fly into Poland first then train it into Kiev or maybe they have a bus. Their tour fee is $5795.

I wonder what happens when an air raid siren goes off. Does the whole group huddle in a basement bomb shelter or Metro station?
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Voyager1 wrote:
January 29th, 2025, 1:41 am
I just checked AFA's and apparently they're offering a March 2025 tour to Odessa - Kiev.

https://a-foreign-affair.com/tour/order/order.shtml

Apparently you have to sign some kind of waiver in case you get blown up. Oh by the way there are no flights into Kiev. I'd assume you have to fly into Poland first then train it into Kiev or maybe they have a bus. Their tour fee is $5795.

I wonder what happens when an air raid siren goes off. Does the whole group huddle in a basement bomb shelter or Metro station?
Funny story from their last tour a few months ago or maybe you’d call just call it insanity. So AFA are boasting about their first tour
couple since the conflict started. This is from the excited customers mouth :- He met a woman at a social briefly, the next day AFA encouraged her to ask the guy on a date (something real FSU women never do). These strangers went out for a meal that day, he proposed immediately, but Instead of her spending time with her new husband in Kiev, she immediately returned to the Karkiv region. AFA then encouraged him to take a midnight train alone, close to the front line, to meet another 2 strangers (her parents) and start the visa process. Obviously they needed a happy ending from the first tour back on Ukraine soil and did everything possible to make that happen, including breaking every FSU dating rule, ignoring massive red flags by letting a guy become a one day wonder and then putting him in danger with no support close by if things go sideways…. It’s all about the $$$ at any cost and what they let this guy do, has resulted in men being drugged, kidnapped and held in a basement while their bank accounts were cleaned, in the past. They had no idea if she was running a side scam with street level thugs, plus the risk of a shell landing on his head.

If this isn’t the epitome of desperation, I don’t know what is…. These women aren’t stupid. There’s only one reason a poor woman from a war zone who speaks not a word of English, would accept an engagement ring in less than 24 hours and it’s not love. She’s sitting with her family and friends as we speak saying “Do you really think i’m not going to divorce a man this gullible, once I have my green card”

I had my “profile” removed from their PPL site a few days ago after I showed them the stunning models who all wanted to chat with a convicted bikie sex trafficker that was also arrested for jacking off a Donkey and various other crimes. His interests were quite unique too… Flower arranging and hunting women for sport in the forest are just a couple, but that’s a story for tomorrow :lol:
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Kharkiv is under bombardment and AFA are sending their clients in harm's way!

https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idR ... 012025RP1/

@Winston do you approve of this?
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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My profile I set up on AFA :- The profile picture is an obese, full face tattooed bikie for the most violent gang on the planet.

Describe Yourself (Hobby's and Interests) :-

I’m a fully patched member an outlaw motorcycle gang. I hope you can over look my extensive criminal record :- Drug trafficking, extortion, interfering with a minor, attempted murder and sex trafficking…. Oh I almost forgot, I was arrested for jacking off a donkey, but he decided to go missing before the trial, now he sleeps with the fishes…. Putting that aside I’m really a just great big teddy bear at heart

Your Ideal Match (About Her) :-

I like my women like my stools in the morning …. loose and sloppy. Come get some of this man meat you Slavic (word for female dog)

Additional comments :-

I like long walks on the beach, Lines of Columbias finest, Flower arranging, Hunting women in the forest, Cuddly nights in watching romcoms, Burning cats in garbage bins, The fine fashion of Gay Paree, Bill Cosby, Classical music, Panty sniffing.

These are some of the messages below I’ve received on this profile, all are completely unrealistic models even for an above average guy with a genuine profile.


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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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Apparently on the tour you fly in to Chisinau, Moldova then you're on your own to catch a bus to Odessa. For someone who has never been to that part of the world that would be very harrowing and uncomfortable.

Then you spend two days in Odessa and off you go to Kiev. I guess you have to explain to the ladies in Odessa that you're off to meet other ladies in Kiev.

My question is why can't AFA organize tours in Chisinau? Moldova is one of the poorest countries in Eastern Europe and surely ladies there would want to meet Western guys
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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AFA clients are expected to arrive in Odessa March 13.
https://loveme.com/tour/order/order.shtml

One dead in Ukrainian city Odessa after Russian air strikes
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/on ... r-AA1AhItV

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Russia is still bombing the shit out of Odessa and AFA clients are expected to show up there? @Winston

My God. I would fear for my life.
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Re: Is A Foreign Affair a scam?

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They are bombing power stations in Odessa so AFA clients may be sitting in their hotel rooms without power.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/na ... r-AA1AqO0L

Reminds me of Dream Connections when the hotel had no hot water so DC clients had to take cold showers. Some of them just didn't take a shower.
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