Russia's Invasion of Ukraine, aka "Putin's Special Operation"

[Voyager1]

What scum! Elon Musk called decorated war hero Mark Kelly a traitor! What scum!

What a lame answer Musk gave, "I think that someone should care about the interests of the United States above the interests of another country". Does that mean that no official from the US should go on a diplomatic mission to another country? Does that make them a "traitor" if they do?

What a fool. He should resign as Senior Advisor to the President or Trump should fire him!

[Voyager1]

At least nine children among 19 killed as putin unleashes horror missile strike on Zelensky’s home city in Ukraine
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/34290940/ ... mb-attack/

[Shemp]

At least nine children among 19 killed as putin unleashes horror missile strike on Zelensky’s home city in Ukraine
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/34290940/ ... mb-attack/

As usual, this is the fault of the Ukrainians. They put a military object in the middle of a residential neighborhood. Russia accurately targeted the military target. Ukraine knocked the Russian missile off course with a Patriot defense missile, so the Russian missile hit civilian objects. If the Ukrainians had been responsible and placed their military target in an industrial zone, the deflected Russian missile would have hit some industrial facility with few civilian casualties. If the Ukrainian had put their military target outside the city entirely, the deflected Russian missile would have landed in an empty field.

I used to wonder who this stupid Ukrainian propaganda was fooling. Thanks to Voyager1 and Yohan, I discovered that there are some incredibly gullible people in this world. I am smart myself and always knew most people are stupider than me, but without this forum, i would never have known just how superior I am (or "how inferior some humans are" is perhaps better expression, because I am aware that i am nothing compared to the universe). For me to see the world through the mind of Voyager1 or Yohan is like for an average human to see the world through the mind of a dog.

[Voyager1]

First of all why would Ukraine put a military object in the middle of a residential neighborhood and how would the Russians know it's there?

This is all conjecture on your part.

No, Russia is specifically targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. They are killing children in the process because they want to wear down the resilience of the Ukrainian people and have them surrender. Just like Hitler did in WWII. He bombed London relentlessly hoping Great Brittan would capitulate, but as Winston Churchill said in his famous speech, "We shall never surrender."

Shemp you once again are off your rocker. No one should pay attention to the silly things you say.

[Shemp]

First of all why would Ukraine put a military object in the middle of a residential neighborhood

1) to hide it; 2) in hopes Russians won't risk hitting civilians; 3) to create a big PR issue in case Russians do aim at it and either miss or the Russian rocket is deflected by Ukrainian air defense (Patriot system), as happened this time.

how would the Russians know it's there?

FSB has always had plenty of spies in Ukraine plus satellite photos and other intelligence sources.

This is all conjecture on your part.

It's common knowledge among the honest Telegram channels, such as legitimmy and resident, which are read by everyone with brains who is concerned about events in Ukraine (including the government, though obviously the government hates seeing the truth exposed).

No, Russia is specifically targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure.

Ukraine is desperately short of defense missiles. They used a missile this time in Krivy Rig because the target was so important to defend (lots of Ukrainian and foreign officers). Given weak Ukrainian air defense, if Russians wanted, they could easily kill millions of Ukrainian civilians with missiles. Or easily create a humanitarian disaster by knocking out the water purification plants.

Just like Hitler did in WWII. He bombed London relentlessly hoping Great Brittan would capitulate, but as Winston Churchill said in his famous speech, "We shall never surrender."

Churchill wanted Hitler to bomb London and had to repeatedly bomb civilian targets in Germany before Hitler made the mistake of falling into Churchill's trap by retaliating. Churchill was desperate to get USA involved, so the more dead English civilians, the better to work up public opinion on USA. Similarly, Zelensky and Ermak want USA or EU members involved in Ukraine, so the more dead Ukrainian civilians, the better, which is one reason why (reason 3 above) they put military targets in residential districts. It's been this way since the beginning. But the USA and EU know exactly what is happening, and they always have. Previously, they played along with Zelensky because it suited their interests (they wanted war in hopes of regime change in Russia) and they needed public support from idiots like you. Now the USA and EU know the war is lost and they are ignoring Zelensky and his tricks. All USA and EU care about now is salvaging as much as possible of their bad investment.

Shemp you once again are off your rocker. No one should pay attention to the silly things you say.

Dunning-Kruger effect in action. An idiot like you can't possibly understand what a full brained human like me is saying.

[Voyager1]

So let me get this straight. Ukraine "hides" military weapons in school yards, playgrounds, nurseries, schools, children's hospitals, hospitals and apartment buildings filled with civilians? These are precisely what Russia has been targeting.

1) to hide it; 2) in hopes Russians won't risk hitting civilians;

That is precisely what Russia wants to hit - civilians.

Enough talking with you. I will not answer a fool according to his folly.

[Shemp]

So let me get this straight. Ukraine "hides" military weapons in school yards, playgrounds, nurseries, schools, children's hospitals, hospitals and apartment buildings filled with civilians? These are precisely what Russia has been targeting.

Exactly. And Ukraine has been doing this since the war began. Plus you forgot to mention Ukraine has been transporting weapons and soldiers using ambulances and civilian transport vehicles, which is why those get attacked as well.

Ukraine isn't the first or only fighting force to use civilians as shields. Hamas does it. Lots of African regular state military and irregular non-state rebel fighting forces do it. It's spelled out as a war crime precisely because it is so tempting, especially to the weaker side.

The leaders of USA and EU always knew the truth of Ukraine's war crimes, but they didn't care, same as they don't care about Israel's war crimes.

Russia doesn't engage in war crimes because Russia is very concerned about what the leaders of China and the rest of the BRICS countries think of Russia. These leaders, like leaders of USA and EU, are smart people and cannot be fooled easily. Russia doesn't give a damn what powerless idiots in the West like you think, which is why Russia hardly makes an effort contesting Zelensky's lies.

[Voyager1]

[Voyager1]

This is where @Shemp says Ukraine is hiding their "military objects" - in children's playgrounds.

[Voyager1]

Putin orders record draft: 160,000 Russians called to serve
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pu ... s-AA1C7HtJ

Then it's going to be 160,000 Russians going to their deaths.



Bring 'em on. Kill 'em all.

The only good Russian is a dead Russian.

[Shemp]

Putin orders record draft: 160,000 Russians called to serve
...
Bring 'em on. We'll kill 'em all.

What do you think of Voyager1's threat, @yick? Them's fighting words there. Wonder where on the front line he is located?

[Voyager1]

What do you think of Voyager1's threat, @yick? Them's fighting words there. Wonder where on the front line he is located?

We got you in our sights Shemp

[Voyager1]

Ukraine has captured 'two CHINESE nationals fighting for Russia'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uk ... r-AA1CwB5g



The Chinese are going to get slaughtered.

Kill 'em. Kill 'em all

[Yohan]

I used to wonder who this stupid Ukrainian propaganda was fooling. Thanks to Voyager1 and Yohan, I discovered that there are some incredibly gullible people in this world. I am smart myself and always knew most people are stupider than me, but without this forum, i would never have known just how superior I am (or "how inferior some humans are" is perhaps better expression, because I am aware that i am nothing compared to the universe). For me to see the world through the mind of Voyager1 or Yohan is like for an average human to see the world through the mind of a dog.

Shemp, I can only say, I feel sorry for you. You are living in a fantasy world.

I don't care if you compare me with a dog - I can only point out facts, like it or not.

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Whatever you write, Shemp, it does not make any sense.

For your information

1 - The Russian 3-days special operation to remove the Ukrainian government totally failed.
2 - The follow-up Russian invasion with a 60 km long convoy to occupy parts of Ukraine also failed.
3 - To block access to the Black Sea using Russian war-ships failed.
4 - To threaten Sweden and Finland with military actions if they join NATO failed.

And so on...

Now it is more than 3 years already and your idea that Ukraine will soon become a Russian vassal state failed.

I just read after the North Korean soldiers failed, the next coming might be Chinese or Iranians, who knows...

Europe can never allow that Ukraine will become a Russian territory again - and Europe (EU) are more than 450 million people with a much higher productivity than Russia.

Add to this 450 million EU people, all other countries which are supportive to Ukraine like Norway, UK, Canada, Australia, Japan, South Korea...

Check out how many Russian young men are now in graves.

For what?

Think about it...Do you even realize how poor the ordinary Russian people are living?
This is how it looks like just a little bit over the border near Finland...and this is not even the poorest place in Russia.

[Voyager1]

Yohan, the average Russian lives below the poverty line because putin stole much of the country's wealth. That's why some say he's the richest in the world. The Russians should rise up and overthrow him like the Romanians did to Nicolae Ceaușescu or the Italians did to Mussolini.