Is International Dating For Losers?

[WorldTraveler]

Eh, if you were a simp you could marry some used up old hag.

Yeah, and leaving US for some Moldovan village just so you can touch a booby makes you a player?

Yes it does.

@Cornfed and I agree 100%. Yes you're a player and a big baller, because you actually did something to improve your life. Millions of people do nothing but talk.

[flowerthief00]

Stick with the word "simp" and it's harder to argue against. A simp is defined by uneven investment in relationships and pursuit of relationships. Thus, a person who would go all the way around the world to chase women has, shall we say...a higher than average likelihood of being a simp.

The usage of the word "loser", tho, is questionable imo, what with the dating game the way it is. To focus on who is winning or losing at this broken game is kind of missing the point.

[Cornfed]

Stick with the word "simp" and it's harder to argue against. A simp is defined by uneven investment in relationships and pursuit of relationships. Thus, a person who would go all the way around the world to chase women has, shall we say...a higher than average likelihood of being a simp.

That would only apply if the situation in the West weren't so bad, so enduring even an average relationship in the West would, relatively speaking, make you more of a simp then travelling around the world.

[flowerthief00]

That would only apply if the situation in the West weren't so bad, so enduring even an average relationship in the West would, relatively speaking, make you more of a simp then travelling around the world.

Agreed on the last bit. Enduring the average relationship in the West is almost simping by definition. I just think there's plenty of room on the simping spectrum.

[Winston]

My new friend Cyrus from Las Vegas did a great video about why dating abroad and passport bros are not for losers. It makes a lot of good points.

[vlkmo]

I tend to subscribe to the sentiment that if you want to be able to date in your own country, but have to move to another country or completely different continent/culture to date, you are a loser (not an insult) or at least have to compromise.

Dating abroad, there is nothing wrong per se. If you enjoy that, I won't stop you. But how would you feel if all the food and land in your country was poisoned and forced to relocate to a whole different country just to not starve?

[Lucas88]

I tend to subscribe to the sentiment that if you want to be able to date in your own country, but have to move to another country or completely different continent/culture to date, you are a loser (not an insult) or at least have to compromise.

Dating abroad, there is nothing wrong per se. If you enjoy that, I won't stop you. But how would you feel if all the food and land in your country was poisoned and forced to relocate to a whole different country just to not starve?

To be honest — and this too is not an insult but rather simply an honest observation — many people today are losers. People have gotten noticeably uglier in the last 20 years; many young men have low testosterone and are out of shape and mentally fragile (undoubtedly due to the myriad environmental toxins to which we are constantly exposed); social skills have declined considerably; and a significant subset of the population is addicted to videogames and the internet. Many people are objectively undesirable — far more than in previous generations.

If you can't compete in your own country but can do better for yourself in an easier foreign market, then why not? Some people might think that you're a loser, but if you pull it off you show far more versatility and determination than the true losers who merely complain on the internet about how they can't get a woman.

For me, going abroad was more about preference than fleeing from a poor dating culture back home. It's hard to like British girls of mediocre pulchritude (to put it mildly) when you've already been exposed to super-hot Brazilian babes with alluring exotic beauty and privileged booty genetics.

[yick]

I tend to subscribe to the sentiment that if you want to be able to date in your own country, but have to move to another country or completely different continent/culture to date, you are a loser (not an insult)

How is that not an insult? Of course it is!

Dating abroad, there is nothing wrong per se. If you enjoy that, I won't stop you. But how would you feel if all the food and land in your country was poisoned and forced to relocate to a whole different country just to not starve?

I wouldn't care because beautiful women are all around the world.

The 'food and land' isn't 'posioned' it's just you're not very good at farming - if we are going to stick to that analogy.

Most American men date American women and marry and have kids with them. Most American men wouldn't even consider dating overseas because they don't have to.

Some men have a natural ability with women and some don't - I am part of the latter group for what it's worth though I do better in certain places more than others.

So, if I go to a country where the women look like me and they like what they see in me because that is what they see in the mirror in the morning then why am I a loser for staying in the country where I happened to be born in with women who don't look like me and don't find me particularly attractive? Why would I subject myself to that because someone might call me a 'loser'?

You must be kidding.

[yick]

Double post

[yick]

I tend to subscribe to the sentiment that if you want to be able to date in your own country, but have to move to another country or completely different continent/culture to date, you are a loser (not an insult) or at least have to compromise.

Dating abroad, there is nothing wrong per se. If you enjoy that, I won't stop you. But how would you feel if all the food and land in your country was poisoned and forced to relocate to a whole different country just to not starve?

To be honest — and this too is not an insult but rather simply an honest observation — many people today are losers. People have gotten noticeably uglier in the last 20 years; many young men have low testosterone and are out of shape and mentally fragile (undoubtedly due to the myriad environmental toxins to which we are constantly exposed); social skills have declined considerably; and a significant subset of the population is addicted to videogames and the internet. Many people are objectively undesirable — far more than in previous generations.

If you can't compete in your own country but can do better for yourself in an easier foreign market, then why not? Some people might think that you're a loser, but if you pull it off you show far more versatility and determination than the true losers who merely complain on the internet about how they can't get a woman.

For me, going abroad was more about preference than fleeing from a poor dating culture back home. It's hard to like British girls of mediocre pulchritude (to put it mildly) when you've already been exposed to super-hot Brazilian babes with alluring exotic beauty and privileged booty genetics.

You've not mentioned epidemic levels of drug use which is now so bad, the waters in and around the UK are saturated to such levels of cocaine that it affects the swimming patters of the fish

We're drinking this toxic water and we are now seeing the effects on the population, angry, depressed and hopeless - which they are - the drug epidemic that has enveloped the UK is far worse than the drug epidemic that nearly destroyed Chinese society in the late 1800's - if you read about the negative effects of opium use on Chinese society, all that is happening now in the UK except nothing is being done to stop it because a person who is more concerned about their next fix isn't bothered about overthrowing a government.

@Winston rightly said society is 'mentally ill'. We're in a bad place, you HAVE to move, it no use being like vikmo lamenting on others getting the hell out as losers as he is sinking into the quagmire of hopelessness and for what? Because sticking it out in a country that is sinking into a psychological abyss makes him not a loser? It's weird how some people think - it's doesn't make you brave to stay with the band on the Titanic because they're playing a good tune and nobody will think you're a hero - least of all yourself (plural) once you are trying to stay afloat in the ice cold waters with only chunks of ice and sinking trombones for company as the last lifeboat is only just visible in the far distance.

It's not really about women, it's about having an optimum state of mental health in a country and a part of the world that aligns with you. It's then the women come when you have that sorted out.