How many times does it have to be said? If you're marrying a Russian Woman or Ukrainian Woman chances are she is marrying up. Doctors, Lawyers and Engineers are high paying jobs in the US/Europe, not so much in Russia and Ukraine. They earn what would be termed "Middle Class' wages. Enough to afford their own flat and possibly a car.
Plus those educations are not acceptable in Western Countries, they'll have to go for retraining or addition education. I know a few women that were doctors in Russia but when they immigrated to the US it took too long to become a US certified doctor so they opted for Registered Nurse which pays roughly the same as being a doctor in Russia at least woman doctor.
Most women between 18-22 or so are in school, so they have no money. Marrying ANYBODY is usually an improvement. Also living in Western Europe or US despite its crumbling infrastructure is a massive improvement. Yes the subway goes everywhere in both countries (Ukraine and Russia) but its needs updating, I know I rode on it, the cars are from the 1970's at least.
Why you worried about hooking up with middle class women? Most women are unable to get the jobs they were educated for. Unlike US women who go to school to get liberal art degrees, some Russian/Ukrainian women get some sort of Tech based degree but end up working in a retail shop because they were unable to get a job related to their education where they live.
There is no need to chase around high maintenance Russian women, while they look great, with a little help with clothes and some makeup a less fussy Russian women will look just as good, especially if she has the standard Slavic/Model features of high cheek bones and slim figure.
Are you looking for a woman to help with the expense of immigration? This is possible, not impossible not unlikely. Middle Class Russian women are just as interested in Western men as poorer women are, what makes you think they aren't? They just have the means to travel a bit more, likely own a car but still have the same problems with men. Only these are usually White collar men, who have an even larger choice of available women, don't need to rush into marriage, relationships, anything.
Again they understand they have an advantage and they use it. Just as American and some Western European use their advantage over you. Which is they have bypassed you up to this point and you're hanging out with us on this web site -
The problem I see over and over with American Men chasing Russian/Ukrainian women is, you're chasing them, there is no mutual attraction and no interest. Stop chasing them! You treat them like American women, NO, treat them like Russian women. American women too often want to be one of the guys and watch football with you. Russian women want to the sexy vixen that jumps into your lap during a game with nothing on but a long jersey of your favorite team. Russian women understand and knows dirty, unkempt children and home are a direct reflection on her. Knowing that your happy is just as important. This is a concept hard to understand post-feminism and everything but this is very much the case.
Do not talk to men who have failed in this venture, unless they admit their failure like Tony Bochene -
http://europeandreamconnections.com/ton ... ating-one/ who admitted to Mark that his 2nd marriage to a Russian lady that had clear mental problems related to her childhood and was a heavy drinker (aren't all Russians??? j/k). These are things he did not pick up on because he didn't spend enough time with this lady before they got married. He had spend time time with her while juggling other women while on his own dime in St. Pete.
I find that most "Train Wrecks" are just as much the man's fault as the woman's and its easy to blame a so-called less sophisticated Slavic woman. Many of these men make the same mistakes with Western Women which is why they are single. Some are completely overlooked in America or Western Europe and the hint of attention shown to them by a Russian Shark looking for prey is enough to make them loose complete control of all rational thought. This includes constant emailing of women and showing up to Ukraine with a ring and your bride no where to be found. (Seen on the ABC Nightline program).
Anyway, you can make excuses Banano, it won't help and frankly if you're not man enough to find a Russian woman that won't play you like a cheap guitar from Esteban, maybe you should focus on women that are easier to get like Asians.
As I said in another post, there is a reason(s) why Asian women are not near the top of the food chain.
