A breakdown of problems that prevent men from approaching AW

OTB · Post by **OTB** » May 11th, 2012, 3:51 am

Whenever I'm out in public I observe the problems that make me hesitant about approaching women or not want to approach a woman at all just from one look at her even if she is sexy or attractive. I think most of you will concur with my observations. As we already know women act unapproachable and you clearly detect that in their body language and the expression on their faces.

So what makes me hesitant to approach someone who has caught my eye or not want to approach them at all from one glance?

1. The cold, don't look my way expression on their face.

2. They may look at you, if you made it known that you're checking them out, but then they lower their gaze or look somewhere else with a serious look on their face.

3. They see you looking at them and you've made it clear you are flirting with your eyes or just checking them out but they never look at you.

4. They have this hardened demeanor about themselves that's not very feminine. I'm turned off. You see this with white girls, black girls, and Puerto Rican women.

5. They have a ghetto persona. This is the norm here in the Northeast.

6. You have this pressure to perform. You have to say the right thing. Choose the right words or else you don't have enough "game". You can't just be genuine and just talk and flirt.

7. If you see a girl that is attractive and you want to flirt with her you have this feeling that YOU CAN'T FLIRT. This is one thing that I hate about meeting women in this country. I love to flirt. But women in this country make me suppress that because we all know if she flirts back after only knowing you for a few minutes she's considered easy or a slut.

To go with this, I saw this gorgeous Indian girl at my job the other day. I've never seen her but while we were in the cafeteria I made eye contact with her. Her immediate response was to look down. Ok, she might be shy. But she didn't smile or maintain the eye contact. Most women's brains are conditioned to flee from flirting and divert the eyes somewhere else when a man is making it clear he's attracted to them. So what is the result? No social contact or interaction. Flirting should be mutual.

So all these problems make us suppress that natural urge to want to connect with a woman. Then people wonder why so many men are single. Well, women have closed themselves off and expect a man to say this or that just to have a normal conversation. Authenticity is seen as manipulative. In their minds, why is this guy so friendly? He doesn't know me. He must be up to something.

But another thing, even if you have a conversation with them, a lot of them will just sit there like they don't have to do anything. As if the whole interaction is your responsibility and they get to grade you on your performance before making a decision to take it further or not.

Then they say I want a real man. Well, a real woman knows how to socialize, flirt, and make a man feel wanted. We don't want to be monitored or made to feel like we're some creep or pervert.

What are you're thoughts guys?

Renata · Post by **Renata** » May 11th, 2012, 4:23 am

OTB indian women are brought up kind of secluded, sheltered or strict due to customs & traditions, and end up being socially awkward sometimes, she may be shy or just not sure how to respond to you... you're lucky because you work with her you have a common ground & something to talk about; work' as your ice-breaker.
Worst case scenario is that she still lives at home & has strict parents that still monitor her every move & will have to keep it only professional with you.
I've never been to the US so I can't comment on the rest of your post... btw didn't ask you what you'll be up to here in istanbul when you come.. ??

boycottamericanwomen · Post by **boycottamericanwomen** » May 11th, 2012, 7:17 am

Well, American women are likely to hit you with a false charge or false rape accusation. That is one reason to NEVER approach them.

As for Indian girls, they are the best women on earth. If you get a chance, definitely get with an indian girl. They are traditional though, for the most part, so don't treat her like a whore.

DarrenFW · Post by **DarrenFW** » May 11th, 2012, 10:09 am

Have you tried smiling at them? I'm talking about a warm friendly smile like the way you would if you smiled at a baby or a child?
If they make eye contact and smile back, just say "hi". And either engage or keep walking.
This is a way of acknowledging that we find each other attractive. A sweet smile can melt an ice queen...sometimes.

But the problem is not really in the approach but what you find afterwords. If you start dating them, you may find out many things that are sub par.

For example, I met a girl on plentyoffish.com (yes it sucks) and she was sweet and nice and we met for coffee. I found out that she had a 3 year old son and left him at home with his daddy while she and her girlfriends went off to Cancun for a week.
What kind of mother does that? A selfish one for sure.

boycottamericanwomen · May 11th, 2012, 10:26 am

DarrenFW wrote:Have you tried smiling at them? I'm talking about a warm friendly smile like the way you would if you smiled at a baby or a child?
If they make eye contact and smile back, just say "hi". And either engage or keep walking.
This is a way of acknowledging that we find each other attractive. A sweet smile can melt an ice queen...sometimes.

But the problem is not really in the approach but what you find afterwords. If you start dating them, you may find out many things that are sub par.

For example, I met a girl on plentyoffish.com (yes it sucks) and she was sweet and nice and we met for coffee. I found out that she had a 3 year old son and left him at home with his daddy while she and her girlfriends went off to Cancun for a week.
What kind of mother does that? A selfish one for sure.

Yes, the majority of American women are used up goods.

I mean, they have bastard children from like 10 different men, and then they expect some man to come along and marry them? WHAT THE f**k?

But I guess any man stupid enough to play the "captain save a hoe" role DESERVES his suffering. Manginas are the scum of the earth and they deserve to get shit on. Manginas are the ones who allow feminism to exist.

OTB · Post by **OTB** » May 11th, 2012, 3:17 pm

@Renata

OTB indian women are brought up kind of secluded, sheltered or strict due to customs & traditions, and end up being socially awkward sometimes, she may be shy or just not sure how to respond to you.

Well, when she walked into the cafeteria she didn't seem socially awkward at all. She walked in with some other co-workers of hers and seemed very relax and self assured. She gave off no signs of being shy. However, I do understand she may be that way when she sees a guy eye flirting with. I like shyness sometimes. Not someone extremely shy but shy because she's attracted to you and it takes some time for her to warm up. It shows she humble and reserved. Something I find to be very attractive about a woman. But I'm don't want to make her the focus of what I'm trying to say. I'm talking about AW in general.

All_That_Is_Man · Post by **All_That_Is_Man** » May 11th, 2012, 4:29 pm

I have a few more to add to this list.

1. She either already has a steady boyfriend or she'll lie to you about having one anyway.

2. She will act interested in person, and even give you her number. But she will deliberately not answer any of your calls or texts from here on out.

3. She will not understand your interest and she'll think you're trying to jack her purse or harm her in some way.

To go with this, you may have security, a cop, loss prevention, a district manager, what-have-you, approach you and eager to slap some kind of harassment charge on you.

4. She either already has a steady boyfriend or she'll lie to you about having one anyway.

And last, but not least...

5. She either already has a steady boyfriend or she'll lie to you about having one anyway.

OTB · Post by **OTB** » May 11th, 2012, 5:00 pm

@Boycott

Well, American women are likely to hit you with a false charge or false rape accusation. That is one reason to NEVER approach them.

As for Indian girls, they are the best women on earth. If you get a chance, definitely get with an indian girl. They are traditional though, for the most part, so don't treat her like a whore.

Hey Boycott. I hear what you're saying but I don't really worry about getting tangled up with false charges or a false rape accusation when it comes to approaching AW. I never approach them. I like to flirt and send signals and feel them out before approaching them. BUT they walk around with their walls up and make no eye contact it never happens. I'm pessimistic when it comes to AW but even being pessimistic that doesn't even cross my mind. I highly doubt that would happen if I approached a girl. If it did, it's just more evidence that they're psychologically damaged.

Now about Indian women. Yes, they are good women. My last girlfriend was Indian and she treated me good but she had American ways about her that turned me off. She also started arguments a lot for no reason which she admitted to. She claimed she was a very traditional Indian, which she was to a certain extent, but her attitude and the way she talked revealed that America had rubbed off on her. If she got rid of that attitude she would be a lot better to have a relationship with.

Then I met another Indian from Shaadi.com earlier this year from Mumbai. She sent me a message of interest and we talked a few times. But it ended, which I predicted was going to happen, because she didn't want to leave India. She said that if I were living in India she would definitely give me shot. So I do fine with Indian women.

Taco · Post by **Taco** » May 11th, 2012, 5:46 pm

Simply put, its a power struggle. Western women have it(power), you don't!

Women are only submissive and respectful to men that are more powerful than they are. The problem is western women have more power than most men which is why their so confrontational and also explains their fatal attraction to douchebags, who often only have the illusion of power. In addition, it also explains their sexual behavior or in many cases lack of it. As a result, men are forced to date women they don't even like. Dating women that have more power than you do is a waste of time. Foreign women, generally have much less power than western women hence their attraction, respect and sexual desire for men in general is much higher.

Maker55 · Post by **Maker55** » May 11th, 2012, 6:04 pm

What's with you trying to get with women at work?

There was a black chick that you liked at your work as well.

Terrible idea trying to get with women at work.

OTB · Post by **OTB** » May 11th, 2012, 8:38 pm

@Maker55

What's with you trying to get with women at work?

I just see them. The black girl made it known she wanted me to talk to her but I decided to leave that alone. Now, the Indian I spoke about I just saw for the first time and thought she was gorgeous. I didn't say I wanted to date her. I just used her to make a point. There are two other beautiful Indian girls at my job that I see from time to time but I just think their pretty. That's it. [/quote]

All_That_Is_Man · Post by **All_That_Is_Man** » May 11th, 2012, 10:13 pm

Taco wrote:Women are only submissive and respectful to men that are more powerful than they are. The problem is western women have more power than most men which is why their so confrontational and also explains their fatal attraction to douchebags, who often only have the illusion of power. In addition, it also explains their sexual behavior or in many cases lack of it. As a result, men are forced to date women they don't even like. Dating women that have more power than you do is a waste of time. Foreign women, generally have much less power than western women hence their attraction, respect and sexual desire for men in general is much higher.

Bingo!

OTB wrote:

Showing interest in any woman you work with, comes off as REALLY desperate and uncomfortable. I think this may have more to do with her reaction than anything. As mentioned before, I noticed that you bring up women at work quite often (twice is too much, LOL) and hoping to find your soulmate in the office may actually hurt your image. As far as this Indian girl, just wait until she gets fired for her incompetence or something, and you are no longer co-workers. Then make a move(s).

Billy · Post by **Billy** » May 11th, 2012, 11:19 pm

Taco is right

I think in an interaction with a women when you ask youself about who has the power then one can be quite shure that you are the one who has not

All_That_Is_Man · Post by **All_That_Is_Man** » May 12th, 2012, 12:51 am

The way I see it is this: Women think they have the power before you even open your mouth. This is ignorant and disrespectful (typical women behavior). They certainly DO NOT have any power, however it would be childish and petty to waste energy proving them otherwise (unless they REALLY get out of line). That's the sum of it. The power that women THINK they have is what's preventing any man from wanting anything more than their vagina. Foreign women accept that men have the power, thus foreign women are better women in general. Western women will not wake up from their delusional state until more and more men go their own way and start courting foreign women from non-feminist regions.

OTB · Post by **OTB** » May 12th, 2012, 6:46 am

@All that is Man

Showing interest in any woman you work with, comes off as REALLY desperate and uncomfortable. I think this may have more to do with her reaction than anything. As mentioned before, I noticed that you bring up women at work quite often (twice is too much, LOL) and hoping to find your soulmate in the office may actually hurt your image. As far as this Indian girl, just wait until she gets fired for her incompetence or something, and you are no longer co-workers. Then make a move(s).

Let's get something straight, I'm NOT desperate. I've been single for a few years now. If I were desperate I would be with the black girl from my job, with my ex-girlfriend, or just anybody who smiles at me and gives me attention. But no, I'm not. I know what I want.

Yes, I understand you said it comes off as being desperate, but I want to make that clear. I hate when people take a statement and twist it into something else. Again, I was using her an example. I never said ONCE I was interested in dating her. Just because I say I'm attracted to a girl, who I work with, doesn't mean I want to date her. Another thing, we work in the same building but I don't know what department she works in or on what floor she's on. So when I say co-worker I don't mean she's in my department and I see her all the time. I saw this girl one time and was blown away of how beautiful she was and just made quick eye contact with her due to that. That's it.

Now back to the topic.