Why do people keep saying women like bad boys?

[leavingusa]

I believe the only universal is confidence tied to social acceptance. Women like men who are comfortable in their own skin and aren't social outcasts. They want to associate with a man who can navigate his environment smoothly and can guarantee, at least potentially, a stable social/group life and access to resources to her and her offspring. The environment changes, the rules of attraction change.

Then how this is expressed in practice is largely a cultural and environmental thing. It just so happens that the gangsta/thug shtick engenders signals high social status and acceptance in Anglo countries, apparently at some sort of overarching pop culture level, women sense this and are consequently attracted to it. If society demonized them, or at least lionized another archetype, women would act differently.

The "bad boy" should go to Europe or Asia or the Middle East and then report back, assuming he manages to stay alive.

Or out of jail...

Exod, you got it pegged. I just came from a bar and hot chicks were going for "Alphas" who were all talk. Ironically, some of these guys started to inquire about me when alone. Asking questions like if it was ok to leave a car and such in a nonparking zone, where I've been and other shit. To these "Alphas" I was a sense of authority or some shit, but I just tell them that I am just a guy enjoying a few sports and drinking my wine. I am an outcast by society's standard, I can't conform. Guys I use to work with called me caveman, cause I had raw power and aggressive. I only feel in place when I am in a crazy and insane situation by America's standards. These suppose "Alphas" were nowhere near me, I could slaughter them all. I hang out in many different places, biker bars and such. Not once have I ever had a problem, except a Bonfire party with punk kids, I ended up breaking a punk's jaw.
I guess what I am saying is that you are f***ed if you can't be what society dictates what you should be. I got so f***ed up by society that I can't operate properly, I just can't understand people. It's to the point where I can't hit on a girl without fear of being charged or outcasted. I lost supposed friends who are Betas, the people they know spread rumors of me and that outcasted me. Shit, I have a hard time talking and interacting with girls in forgien countries, they even ignore me.

This sounds like a self-esteem and skewed perspective problem a.k.a "I'm stuck in this box and I can't get out." This was sort of the problem I had for a long time. I think you're focusing too much on being a pariah and outcast in society. You should realize it doesn't mean anything because there is nothing meaningful in this society to feel like you should belong to. Instead you should start being adaptive and flexible.

Dress a little nicer. Run a few laps each day to get your blood pumping. Get some interesting hobbies going or research something. Take a local community college class on how to play guitar. Basically, improve yourself both mentally and physically. You live in a time where regardless of how many friends people have, they will often times feel alone and empty, so it doesn't matter if it you fit in or not.

You have no idea how much I changed just by realizing the options that open up to me in terms of women. So many countries to go to and so many women waiting to be conquered by me.

Basically become somebody you are not to impress women? lol Is concealing your true personality a real improvement?

Do the women and douchebags do this? No they get more tatoos and act tough, actually that's exactly what they do, develop a fake personna to get women.

Why should this guy do these things unless he has an interest in them?

I'm a great guitarist btw, not my opinion but I'm considered to be one. Doesn't help unless you perform onstage but it's great if you don't have a job and you can say that's what you do. If you work in IT and play in a band on the weekend it's the epitome of cheeseball, girls roll their eyes.

Another cliche is the IT guy who lifts weights, it's transparent. Anything you do will just confirm what a cheeseball you are to most women. Better to just quit your job and be a cocky steroid prick.

Is quitting your job to play in a crappy band an improvement? No but it gets you laid. See the problem here?

You actually need to degenerate to get laid.

[leavingusa]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mFK_e4 ... re=related[/youtube]

[Jester]

I'm a great guitarist btw, not my opinion but I'm considered to be one. Doesn't help unless you perform onstage but it's great if you don't have a job and you can say that's what you do. If you work in IT and play in a band on the weekend it's the epitome of cheeseball, girls roll their eyes.

Another cliche is the IT guy who lifts weights, it's transparent. Anything you do will just confirm what a cheeseball you are to most women. Better to just quit your job and be a cocky steroid prick.

Is quitting your job to play in a crappy band an improvement? No but it gets you laid. See the problem here?

You actually need to degenerate to get laid.

What you say makes sense.

Of course this problem only exists if you are trying to attract typical AW's.

Just think, if you were in a normal country, and played music for friends and family at gatherings, it would be a huge plus. The kind of country where fathers control daughters' dating, you would be the one to get the girl, and the unemployed musician would get ignored.

No doubt I am preaching to the choir here, as your screen name indicates.

But I think it's worth repeating, for all present: As my Dad always said, "Don't get mad - get even."

[Rayn]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mFK_e4 ... re=related[/youtube]

I recommend taking off the distorted female pedestalism view and notice these 'hot chicks' for who they really are. These girls aren't hot chicks. They are douchebaguettes! . Vain, foul, bratty and immature.

I notice the site along time ago, and reading the huge shitstorm of arguments and whines from manginas complaining why aren't these douchebaguettes ending with them instead. Wow seriously...they want THOSE kinds of women to be their girlfriends/wives? Talk about desperate....

[NorthAmericanguy]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mFK_e4 ... re=related[/youtube]

This is a good video. I have seen it before. At the end of the day, men have better chances to attract women when they distinguish themselves (often to the extreme) from other men.

Tattoos, big muscles, tanning, unconventional clothes, loud sport bikes, custom cars, exotic cars, ect, ect, are all things that young men utilize to attract women.

It's no different then what goes on in the animal kingdom....

[NorthAmericanguy]

I recommend taking off the distorted female pedestalism view and notice these 'hot chicks' for who they really are. These girls aren't hot chicks. They are douchebaguettes! . Vain, foul, bratty and immature.

I notice the site along time ago, and reading the huge shitstorm of arguments and whines from manginas complaining why aren't these douchebaguettes ending with them instead. Wow seriously...they want THOSE kinds of women to be their girlfriends/wives? Talk about desperate....

Precisely. Why waste your time trying to attract women who most likely can't cook, don't want to clean, will be horrible mothers, and like Rayn said, are vain, foul, bratty and immature.

For the most part, Western women are flat out liabilities so it makes no sense to go out your way to attract such women.

[NorthAmericanguy]

Women DO like bad boys. And they do because thug behavior is glorified in society and because "sexy men" trump all other concerns for wimmin since the daddygov will be their surrogate beta husband.

I had a few women tell me that they feel safe and protected around bad boys. I believe them because I have been around real bad boys and they do command a level of respect similar to a cop or a respected businessman.

Women also like bad boys because in the underworld they can access free drugs, free alcohol and they can live a lazy/crazy unproductive life having fun 24/7/365.

Remember, real thugs don't work a 9-5 and they make 1000X more money then the average Joe so they they can fly to, say, Cancun, Mex whenever they want and spend 10k on accommodations, drugs, and shopping like nothing so best to believe that kind of man will attract more women then some nice guy who drives a Toyota Tercel and only makes 25k a year at a nondescript job.

At the end of the day though, the women who chose thugs are NOT loyal to them! Once these thugs get locked up, run out of money, or killed, the women are off having relations with the next thug. Many of these women are also having relations with many different thugs at the same time who are rivals, and sadly (I guess), many thugs are killed this way due to the female setting them up.

Just go to any prison and talk to the thugs.... Many of these guys don't even get as much as a letter or 20 bucks put on the books after they get locked up. They are gone and forgotten by most of the women they took care of except for their mothers, sisters, and just maybe the rare baby mom who was a good woman.

Anyhow, this is why women are excluded in higher circles where enlightened men share power, they know fundamentally women are not loyal to men.

[leavingusa]

I'm a great guitarist btw, not my opinion but I'm considered to be one. Doesn't help unless you perform onstage but it's great if you don't have a job and you can say that's what you do. If you work in IT and play in a band on the weekend it's the epitome of cheeseball, girls roll their eyes.

Another cliche is the IT guy who lifts weights, it's transparent. Anything you do will just confirm what a cheeseball you are to most women. Better to just quit your job and be a cocky steroid prick.

Is quitting your job to play in a crappy band an improvement? No but it gets you laid. See the problem here?

You actually need to degenerate to get laid.

What you say makes sense.

Of course this problem only exists if you are trying to attract typical AW's.

Just think, if you were in a normal country, and played music for friends and family at gatherings, it would be a huge plus. The kind of country where fathers control daughters' dating, you would be the one to get the girl, and the unemployed musician would get ignored.

No doubt I am preaching to the choir here, as your screen name indicates.

But I think it's worth repeating, for all present: As my Dad always said, "Don't get mad - get even."

True but you wouldn't be getting wild sex or having women pay your bills while you give all her friends vaginas test runs.

She will still want the musician, not much you can do about a woman's basic nature only the level of control exerted by society.

Women are not "attracted" to their husbands sexually, the nature of the relationship sees to that.

Any time you give a woman comfort or support you are for all purposes adding 30lbs of fat and contorting your face.

[mguy]

The more I am an ass to a woman the more she gives me the green light. It is not logical, but we are not dealing with logical creatures here.

I'm more of a douche to less attractive girls cuz f**k it if they go away so what? While I tend to hold back on the prettier girls causing me not to get them.

Being an ass really rubs off on girls and becomes their aphrodisiac for some reason. Being nice gets you nowhereville on a one way bus ride.

Dunno why really, just experiences.

[Andrewww]

Precisely. Why waste your time trying to attract women who most likely can't cook, don't want to clean, will be horrible mothers, and like Rayn said, are vain, foul, bratty and immature.

For the most part, Western women are flat out liabilities so it makes no sense to go out your way to attract such women.

Well that's the dilema...seeing pictures of pretty girls with douchebags on your computer is one thing, meeting them is another. If you're suffering from a cronic lack of sex I recommend consulting an escort. If you're looking for a long term relationship / possible marriage then these skanks don't concern you.

[leavingusa]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mFK_e4 ... re=related[/youtube]

I recommend taking off the distorted female pedestalism view and notice these 'hot chicks' for who they really are. These girls aren't hot chicks. They are douchebaguettes! . Vain, foul, bratty and immature.

I notice the site along time ago, and reading the huge shitstorm of arguments and whines from manginas complaining why aren't these douchebaguettes ending with them instead. Wow seriously...they want THOSE kinds of women to be their girlfriends/wives? Talk about desperate....

If you actually paid attention to the video you might grasp the overarching concept.

[leavingusa]

I recommend taking off the distorted female pedestalism view and notice these 'hot chicks' for who they really are. These girls aren't hot chicks. They are douchebaguettes! . Vain, foul, bratty and immature.

I notice the site along time ago, and reading the huge shitstorm of arguments and whines from manginas complaining why aren't these douchebaguettes ending with them instead. Wow seriously...they want THOSE kinds of women to be their girlfriends/wives? Talk about desperate....

Precisely. Why waste your time trying to attract women who most likely can't cook, don't want to clean, will be horrible mothers, and like Rayn said, are vain, foul, bratty and immature.

For the most part, Western women are flat out liabilities so it makes no sense to go out your way to attract such women.

Because those are the type of girls that like to f**k?

Cooking, cleaning and children are kind of low on my list.