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OutWest wrote:This simple reality will be avoided by most men from the USA even while they continue to complain about their lack of success. The Instant On, TV Remote version of reality that most American men subscribe to, pretty well relegates them to P4P girls unless they are willing to change their attitudes.

>>>Why do men think that a great girl overseas should just roll over for them when he has not taken the time to connect with her culture and family in any meaningful way, and does not demonstrate some
kind of ongoing connection to her place that would sustain a long term relationship?

Many of the best girls can easily spot when they are being gamed- they are not interested in being
some manwhore's vacation GF. But of course, American men will continue to troll the world, blowing into this city of that, and post their "take" on the local girls, when in reality they have no clue beyond the bar girl or two they paid for.

The men who think differently have little competition.
As usual, wisely said. Minimal effort, maximum result, the same mantra you gringos are relentlessly sold by every snake oil salesman, from TV to the White House.

It must be said, though, that in places like Medellin a genuine desire to learn the local ropes with a view to living at least medium term or doing business, goes a very, very long way. Unfortunately most Americans simply cannot afford to take more than two weeks off a year, so they have to settle for the lowest common denominator relationships. And even then, I guess it's still possible to leave a dent and be seen as serious people, not manwhores.


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jmbPtforlife wrote:I don't know about colombians not doing online dating. More new girls sign up in Medellin each day for Colombian cupid than on Thaifriendly each day in bangkok. Its a pretty easy count to do and bangkok is larger.

Meeting through social circle is still the most popular way but the majority of gringos never have and never will have a significant male social circle in Colombia. Colombian guys and gringos don't hang out (at least in Medellin). So unless you are still in Uni I think social circle is hard in Medellin to acquire if you aren't Colombian and already have one. You can't just go and buy one at Exito.
It depends on who these Colombians are, who they're looking for. I can pretty much guarantee you that, bar those who have fixations/fetishes for specific foreign cultures and countries, any standard Colombian hotty is pretty happy getting a local boyfriend.

I would say "shame on Gringos" if they don't (or can't get) a male social circle. Colombians are extremely friendly and gregarious, and there's always a house parties in a large finca (large countryside house) to choose from, sometimes even during weekdays. I think it's a typical trait of the Anglo mindset, to go on on a p***y-chasing mission alone and then complain if hot ladies don't rain on them.

Men from Medellin are very happy to hang out with gringos, in fact with any foreigner who can demonstrate to appreciate their culture and makes a least a half-decent effort: that could mean a passable level of spoken Spanish, knowing how to dance Salsa or even just smiling and letting himself go. Of course a social circle doesn't come on supermarket shelves, but since it's so bloody easy to get to know somebody who will then introduce somebody else etc. - it takes a particularly socially impaired person to live more than a few weeks in Medellin and complain they don't know anybody yet.
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Jester wrote:
publicduende wrote:
jmbPtforlife wrote:I don't know about colombians not doing online dating. More new girls sign up in Medellin each day for Colombian cupid than on Thaifriendly each day in bangkok. Its a pretty easy count to do and bangkok is larger.

Meeting through social circle is still the most popular way but the majority of gringos never have and never will have a significant male social circle in Colombia. Colombian guys and gringos don't hang out (at least in Medellin). So unless you are still in Uni I think social circle is hard in Medellin to acquire if you aren't Colombian and already have one. You can't just go and buy one at Exito.
It depends on who these Colombians are, who they're looking for. I can pretty much guarantee you that, bar those who have fixations/fetishes for specific foreign cultures and countries, any standard Colombian hotty is pretty happy getting a local boyfriend.

I would say "shame on Gringos" if they don't (or can't get) a male social circle. Colombians are extremely friendly and gregarious, and there's always a house parties in a large finca (large countryside house) to choose from, sometimes even during weekdays. I think it's a typical trait of the Anglo mindset, to go on on a p***y-chasing mission alone and then complain if hot ladies don't rain on them.

Men from Medellin are very happy to hang out with gringos, in fact with any foreigner who can demonstrate to appreciate their culture and makes a least a half-decent effort: that could mean a passable level of spoken Spanish, knowing how to dance Salsa or even just smiling and letting himself go. Of course a social circle doesn't come on supermarket shelves, but since it's so bloody easy to get to know somebody who will then introduce somebody else etc. - it takes a particularly socially impaired person to live more than a few weeks in Medellin and complain they don't know anybody yet.
Criticism that is USEFUL.

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Some of you Americanos just have to learn to take it easy... :)
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publicduende wrote:
Jester wrote:
publicduende wrote:
jmbPtforlife wrote:I don't know about colombians not doing online dating. More new girls sign up in Medellin each day for Colombian cupid than on Thaifriendly each day in bangkok. Its a pretty easy count to do and bangkok is larger.

Meeting through social circle is still the most popular way but the majority of gringos never have and never will have a significant male social circle in Colombia. Colombian guys and gringos don't hang out (at least in Medellin). So unless you are still in Uni I think social circle is hard in Medellin to acquire if you aren't Colombian and already have one. You can't just go and buy one at Exito.
It depends on who these Colombians are, who they're looking for. I can pretty much guarantee you that, bar those who have fixations/fetishes for specific foreign cultures and countries, any standard Colombian hotty is pretty happy getting a local boyfriend.

I would say "shame on Gringos" if they don't (or can't get) a male social circle. Colombians are extremely friendly and gregarious, and there's always a house parties in a large finca (large countryside house) to choose from, sometimes even during weekdays. I think it's a typical trait of the Anglo mindset, to go on on a p***y-chasing mission alone and then complain if hot ladies don't rain on them.

Men from Medellin are very happy to hang out with gringos, in fact with any foreigner who can demonstrate to appreciate their culture and makes a least a half-decent effort: that could mean a passable level of spoken Spanish, knowing how to dance Salsa or even just smiling and letting himself go. Of course a social circle doesn't come on supermarket shelves, but since it's so bloody easy to get to know somebody who will then introduce somebody else etc. - it takes a particularly socially impaired person to live more than a few weeks in Medellin and complain they don't know anybody yet.
Criticism that is USEFUL.

THANK YOU.

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Some of you Americanos just have to learn to take it easy... :)
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The OP is one of those members who is not particularly looking for an answer or advice. He turns down any genuine help other members try to offer him, with further and further arguments making this thread immortal. He is not willing to change, he won't move abroad, he won't improve himself or use "game" and he thinks American women and Foreign women are the same.
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arabian prince.. obviously you are not really paying attention to the overwhelming amount of positive information.. did you see my recent thread? im nothing special but i am settling down with a hot chic that i met on the worst possible dating site in the world.. so even with the odds against me on every level i still succeeded....

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TheLegendSeeker wrote:The OP is one of those members who is not particularly looking for an answer or advice. He turns down any genuine help other members try to offer him, with further and further arguments making this thread immortal. He is not willing to change, he won't move abroad, he won't improve himself or use "game" and he thinks American women and Foreign women are the same.
Yes so true. I was just listening to David Icke on Red Ice Radio in his new interview. He said that many people are addicted to pain, negative emotions and failure. So even if someone offers them a way out, they will not take it, because they are too addicted to the suffering and pain. It's really weird how that works. But that's true for a lot of us here, including me.

Here is that interview if you want to listen to it.

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Winston wrote:
TheLegendSeeker wrote:The OP is one of those members who is not particularly looking for an answer or advice. He turns down any genuine help other members try to offer him, with further and further arguments making this thread immortal. He is not willing to change, he won't move abroad, he won't improve himself or use "game" and he thinks American women and Foreign women are the same.
Yes so true. I was just listening to David Icke on Red Ice Radio in his new interview. He said that many people are addicted to pain, negative emotions and failure. So even if someone offers them a way out, they will not take it, because they are too addicted to the suffering and pain. It's really weird how that works. But that's true for a lot of us here, including me.

Here is that interview if you want to listen to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVAJ2-q1KJA
I agree with these comments totally. Not trying to pile on the OP - as WW says, many of us are this way in certain respects. It's kind of like you are vibrating at a certain frequency, and conscious reasoning doesn't change that frequency. It's, you changed the lyrics, but the music and the beat are the same. So you keep doing the same dance while mouthing new lyrics.

Incidentally, Pranic Energy Healing directly addresses this problem. A very skilled and understanding acupuncturist can also, though you may not feel it as quickly.

If you live in the UK or the US or New Zealand, Bach Flower Remedies are available at health stores. A drop of one of these in all your drinks during the day can create powerful vibrational change. Just google and you can find a questionnaire that will lead to the right one. Or PM me and I'll have a customized remedy bottle sent to you for $40 on PayPal.
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Taco wrote:If you can't get a date in the Philippines there is something seriously wrong with you(clinically dead). You can date a different girl everyday if you want to. That said, a lot of guys try to date Filipinas that are not girlfriend material and not surprisingly it doesn't last. There are some bad apples in every country so be careful.
So, I'm assuming that if 'average' i.e. non SW girls ignore you, you can always go the P4P route? I mean, money can trump an ugly face...correct?
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Well OP you don't have too many choices that's true.
You are not into Filipina and the Asian look.
It keeps Latin America and what more?

You know how AW are,how western woman are in general.
I agree that actually, internet can be positive and it can be also negative.
I'm using online dating for meeting Thai women so i can see how things are going worst in a few years.
I keep the same profile..i suspended my account for quit a long time and came back in the last weeks.
In the past i could get some answers or some women would write to me spontaneously.
Now they almost don't answer,they almost don't write first and if they write something they just put some stupid smiley and that's all.

That has been one of the worst part of women in Thailand.
I'm not talking of P4P because there is not so bad..i have difficulty to really communicate with Thai women..they have a mindset different even the ones who we could qualify as middle class who speaks English.

I just think that i'm turning at the moment to explore the Philipines even if they are many things i'm sure about it, i won't like in the PH(poverty,crime..)

What i mean is that there is nothing to be won to be pessimistic..that's life,what can you do?
Turn back to AW,discover your gay and shemale side?
Castrate yourself?
Being a serial killer?
Hate your life and all females?

Just move around and you will surely find somebody.
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Arabian_prince wrote:Lets be real and honest. We all agree that American Women are horrible and dating scene here sucks.

But whats the solution ? Dating foreign women ? What country has women will actually go out on a date ?

Wu went to Russia and ended up with a stripper.

Hoca went to the Philippines, and I heard he didn't find love.

I had asked threads on here about other countries and I was told that getting dates are also difficult out there. it may not be as hard as it is in the US.

Name a country that I will get 2 - 3 dates with different women a month ?
I think a lot of the hype of going overseas if just that hype. I'm a big fan of Steve Hoca and reports he sent back from the Philippines was very disheartening. I wish it was as easy to get women in a foreign as it is sold on sites that promote foreign dating. unless you have lots of money it is out of reach.
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Steve h confirmed that only poor girls were interested in him, he went to some middle class place and no women would look at him, he was innored and felt lonley. Why nobody on HA talks about it?? This issue needs to be talked about
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
Banano wrote:Steve h confirmed that only poor girls were interested in him, he went to some middle class place and no women would look at him, he was innored and felt lonley. Why nobody on HA talks about it?? This issue needs to be talked about
Middle and upper class people are snobs in most countries, especially in the third world where they often look down on poor people with a burning passion. Who wants to date a snob, let alone marry one? Also: what in America would be qualified as "middle class" is definitely upper class in a third world country like the Philippines.

I thought it was you of all people that practiced snobbery when you said you only settled for middle class educated and witty and smart independant thinking virgins? I was the one who advocated going for poor simple women. Im confused.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
newlifeinphilippines wrote:I thought it was you of all people that practiced snobbery when you said you only settled for middle class educated and witty and smart independant thinking virgins? I was the one who advocated going for poor simple women. Im confused.
My wife's family is poor as hell by Western standards, so I have a hard time describing them as "middle class". They make ends meet, but often barely. Lately things have gotten better, in part because of yours truly. They are also intelligent people, and they are educated. Not all middle class people are intelligent or educated, and not all lower class people are "simple". Their lifestyle is simple, but their minds are not. I have always advocated a simple life, but with a woman bright enough to appreciate it.
so poor with class. ok. Thats a tough one there. Im not gonna have such a rigid requirement cause im already eliminating 99.9 percent of the population that is catholic(an'd that wont genuinely convert) , slut, average looking, low libido/passionless types who i have no chemistry with. If i want a wife she has to someone i deem worthy if i can't find someone so be it ill stay alone.
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