Winston in China! Updates and Photos

[chanta76]

Lorenzo,

I cant blame men for wanting to be with a feminine women. I'm not against non-Asain guys going for Asian girls but I do have a problem when they stereotype Asian men .
To be honest I see more international relationship and more and more western guys probably heading towards Asia to either find a girl or even living there. However, Asian women in Asian are starting to become more feminist. I been to South korea many times..I could remember how it was 20 years vs today with the Korean girls..Sure Korean women act more feminine but there is allot of changes.. You see it with the Korean men to nowadays..I don't know if your wife watches Korean drama (which I don't like) but they put allot of pretty boys . Korean guys nowadays( under 35) feel like they have to look pretty ..bit fit and be super romantic and also have money to get a girl. 20 years ago a geeky skinny Korean guy just needed a good job and be half way decent and that was enough..but not today..so you see once the guys starts dolling themselves up that's when women power is rising.
Its like inverse relationship..20 years Korean girls were even more feminine than today believe it or not...it was not uncommon to meet a Korean girl who was still a virgin in her late 20s''back than..Today it;s like different..so I see the changes already.

[Winston]

Marcos,
Race and genetics are real. Even mainstream science acknowledges that and says that half your personality comes from your genes. However new age researchers such as Dr. Bruce Lipton now claim that genes are malleable, not fixed, and can change with thoughts and attitudes.

Anyway, you notice how when you put your hand on a mans shoulder vs a womans shoulder, you feel a totally different vibe and energy from their body?

Well the same applies to race. When i touch the smooth refined skin of chinese girls, i can feel a different vibe and quality than that of filipina skin. The quality that i sense by touch is real, like how when you eat at a 5 star restaurant, you can taste higher quality food and ingredients. Likewise i can sense higher quality genes and skin from touching chinese girls or feeling their vibe near me.

Its all very real guys.

No offense to you marcos or your wife. Im just being honest about what i sense and feel.

[Yohan]

When i touch the smooth refined skin of chinese girls, i can feel a different vibe and quality than that of filipina skin. The quality that i sense by touch is real, like how when you eat at a 5 star restaurant, you can taste higher quality food and ingredients...

This idea about women and their skin does indeed exist - it is an Asian criteria, Japanese men are well-known to judge a woman more by her skin than by her figure and face. I think it has something to do with the factor of ageing.

I wonder how this criteria has any meaning for an European man like me and Marcos.

To compare a Chinese with a Filipina, who are women of different race (but both of them are Asians) with a 5-star restaurant and probably with food from an eatery and claiming superiority of the Chinese female is a rather unique idea. I never heard something like that before.

Winston, you never met obviously a high class Filipina in your life who is active in modelling comparing her looks and skin with those of mainland-China factory production worker girls.

It is well-known joke that any mainland-Chinese girl can be recognized easily when looking at the colors of her panties, which are said to be yellow in front, red in the middle down and brown behind... This is 'superior? LOL

It's really only about if a girl has enough money for cosmetics and nice clothes, hairdressing etc. and is willing to care about personal hygiene ... and nothing else....

Skin care is a huge business for cosmetica producers and beauty surgeons, dentists etc. in Japan and South Korea, where women have enough money to pay for such services.

It has nothing to do with race.

[Winston]

Yohan,
You are full of it. You believe every BS urban legend that you hear. FYI, all the Chinese women I've met were very CIVILIZED, much more civilized than the men, and did NOT smell bad at all! Ask Ethan_sg, Zboy1 and Bao3niang. They will all concur with this. Even rural Chinese girls from small towns are mostly refined with light skin and act civilized. Most do not fit what you say at all. You obviously have not spent much time here in China and only know stupid urban legends.

MarcosZeitola,
Both race/genetics and environment/upbringing are factors that play a role. I acknowledge both factors. It is YOU who are denying genetics. I am not biased against Filipinas. I love them too, for friendship, fun, companionship, sex, joking around with, flirting with playfully, etc. Ask Rock or Billy. They have seen me look happy and excited around Filipinas. Also see my big Angeles City thread for photos of me looking happy in Angeles City.

So no I don't have a bias against them. I'm just stating the truth and my honest observations. Filipinas are less intelligent and have lower quality skin and genetics than Chinese. Everyone in Asia knows this. Even Filipinos know it, because the Chinese own all the major businesses in the Philippines. It's common knowledge. Just stating the obvious. Why you taking it so personally Marcos? You have a problem. Oh that's right, because your wife is Filipina. Well no offense against her, so don't take any offense. Be more mature. I know you are in your early 20's and don't have much life experience, but look at the INTENTION of the messenger, which in this case is nothing personal, just honest.

Droid,
Ok I will upload my China photos to our shared HA Shutterfly site and post the links to the albums when they are ready.

[Yohan]

Yohan,
You are full of it. You believe every BS urban legend that you hear...

It is difficult to compare BS urban legends (=reports from Western media) with Chinese censored internet reports.

You know yourself best, that in China any news - even comments on a private blog - which do not fit the Communist Party line will be deleted and often the Chinese individual who writes any China-related negative comment about whatever it might be risks to be arrested and punished with long jail terms.

Websites like google (including google maps), youtube, facebook, twitter, YahooJapan, RadioAustralia etc. are all blocked in China.

China mainland is a heavily restricted society. The party guideline is 'Always talking about good things only inside of China and always talking about bad things only outside of China'.

I understand why you are hesitating to show up with the truth while in China.

These are pictures taken by Chinese themselves... this comment survived as it was quickly distributed.
I don't think it is a fake.
http://www.chinahush.com/2014/03/17/the ... -in-china/

[Rock]

Yohan,
You are full of it. You believe every BS urban legend that you hear...

It is difficult to compare BS urban legends (=reports from Western media) with Chinese censored internet reports.

You know yourself best, that in China any news - even comments on a private blog - which do not fit the Communist Party line will be deleted and often the Chinese individual who writes any China-related negative comment about whatever it might be risks to be arrested and punished with long jail terms.

Websites like google (including google maps), youtube, facebook, twitter, YahooJapan, RadioAustralia etc. are all blocked in China.

China mainland is a heavily restricted society. Always talking good things about inside China and bad things only about what happens outside of China.

I understand why you are hesitating to show up with the truth while in China.

These are pictures taken by Chinese themselves... this comment survived as it was quickly distributed.
I don't think it is a fake.
http://www.chinahush.com/2014/03/17/the ... -in-china/

Here are a few of the most recent unfavorable comments about Chinese from that link you posted:

- Chinese are hands down the dirtiest people on earth. I’ve been to almost everywhere in S.E Asia and to China, Korea, and Japan.

- Chinks are the most uncivilized and unhygienic subhumans in the world. Please learn from the Japanese and the Koreans and this is coming from a white guy.

- Face it. Most Chinese from the mainland are just hopelessly ingrained with a culture that tolerates rude and filthy habits with no concept of civic responsibility and respect for the laws of other countries as visitors. We see that behavior here in Canada all the time, with their blatant disregard of traffic laws, rampant cheating and fraud in academics, and urinating in garbage bins of shopping malls.

I say this as a Chinese Canadian who grew up here, never cheated academically, own a legally registered vehicle, and has not gotten a speeding ticket in over 5 years.
Chinese are are f***ing disgusting, I hope their communist party will be their last demise.

- f***ing hivemind trash.

- I have lived in China for five years and as much as I hate to generalize, it is a shit-hole. Most Chinese people are dirty and untidy. I’ve been on the cheap trains and by the end of the journey the bathroom floor is a swamp of shit, piss, tissue and rubbish. Various liquids were flowing from under the bathroom door while passengers continued to smoke relentlessly in the corridor. I asked train staff to open a window and they said they were not allowed to, even though the ventilation system was out of order. People hawk and spit on the floor all the time, including inside the trains, restaurant floors and bins. They don’t give a crap about communal areas, hence the environmental problems they are experiencing. Generalized selfishness is a probable cause. They take their shoes off when they get home not because they are clean but because the streets are dirty as hell. The north of China is worse, people constantly spit on the floor. In winter the spit freezes over and eventually the whole pavement is covered. Great way to spread diseases! They also spit bones and debris on the table instead of on the side of their plate or into a bowl.

It’s a country with no conception of maintenance: buildings and public facilities are built to look good on day one and left to rot and decay. Nothing is built to last in China. Cheap buildings are erected and demolished on a 20-year cycle. It’s a makeshift botched-up country. Becoming a super also takes planning, something the Chinese are clearly not good at.

After being in this country for a long time I am immune to pretty much anything.

The government puts a lot of money and effort into blocking internet access, shouldn’t all those resources go into educating people?

[The_Adventurer]

These are pictures taken by Chinese themselves... this comment survived as it was quickly distributed.
I don't think it is a fake.
http://www.chinahush.com/2014/03/17/the ... -in-china/

The comments, many from people who lived in China long term, are pretty damning.

I have to admit, though, compared to South Korea, where one could eat off the bathroom floor, the difference is night and day. There is no comparison.

[Winston]

ATTENTION ALL:

Ok I've uploaded the pics from my first China trip back in March to May to our HA Shutterfly page. Here is the first album Part 1. It contains over 500 images from both my smart phone and portable camera. I am working on Part 2 now.

Winston's 1st Trip to China - Part 1 Shenzhen
https://happierabroad.shutterfly.com/pictures/92

In this album you will see my arrival in Shenzhen, birthday celebration, some girls I met or dated, etc. Summer, the girl who liked me a lot at first but then did a 180, which I wrote about, is the one in white sweater by the lake and later in green. You will also see many sites around Shenzhen in this album. To see all images on one page, click the "All" button above the album.

The images of Summer start here:
https://happierabroad.shutterfly.com/pictures/308

You can see other member albums on our HA shutterfly page here:
https://happierabroad.shutterfly.com/pictures

Feel free to sign up with Shutterfly and upload your own albums too.

[Winston]

You guys,
Um, yeah there are dirty filthy parts of China. But you can avoid them. Most of Shenzhen and other cities are clean and modern and ok. See the photos in my album posted above and you will see this.

But the important thing is, these "filthy disgusting people" mentioned on China Hush are all MEN! I agree that most men here are filthy and uncivilized and look like troglodytes. I don't like them either. They always make loud disgusting sounds with their throats.

However, the WOMEN in general are very civilized and clean and act very refined. They are easy to vibe with and it feels smooth and natural to talk to them. Thus there is a HUGE difference between men and women here. The China Hush site should distinguish that. Even Rock said that the women here are far more civilized than the men in general.

You guys are cherry picking to try to make China look bad because you couldn't get any decent quality Chinese girls to date you or love you here.

View my album posted above, and you will see that most of China is generally clean and modern and ok, not as you portray and cherry pick. The album is proof of my first hand experience there.

[The_Adventurer]

Get real Winston. When someone passes through a filthy place, the last thing on their mind is stopping to take a picture. Your photo album proves nothing. I have been in gorgeous lobbies of high end buildings in tier one cities and seen spit on the floor and horrible bathrooms. Hell, the office complex where I work in Shanghai has quite a few cleaning ladies and they are always on the move, and this houses people who make money working in games, FX, ArchViz, product design etc.

You guys are cherry picking to try to make China look bad because you couldn't get any decent quality Chinese girls to date you or love you here.

Seriously? Now, after your short time here (honeymoon phase), you know all of our experiences in China, even those of us who have been here for years? I think most people here long term could brag about far outdoing you in China, but there's little point in getting into a photo battle because it'll just be like that thread Will N.Dowd posted. Unless you can post pictures in the room with some clothes off, it proves nothing anyway.

That first girl you were with looks nice! That second one, the one who did the 180, though, is ugly as sin. She looks mentally ill in your photos of her. Her eyes are soulless. You should have stuck with the first girl. You say she didn't escalate things, but most Chinese girls are not going to escalate. They expect you to do it.

Your food porn is awesome. That is making me hungry.

[Winston]

Bullshit Terrence. If you did well in China and got hot girls with refined good skin and intelligence, you would not have had a chubby below average looking Filipina fiancee a few years ago. Why you afraid to talk about that? Simple logic. If you could get high quality girls, you would not have sunk to much lower quality, especially that low. Simple logic.

Which girls are you referring to in my album? Can you post the links to the photos directly? Each photo has a separate URL which you can find if you click on them. The one who wouldn't escalate things was the teacher in the black dress. I can sense from a girl's vibe and body language if she will allow me to escalate things. Body language is everything. Come on now. Anyone with real dating experience knows that.

[The_Adventurer]

Bullshit Terrence. If you did well in China and got hot girls with refined good skin and intelligence, you would not have had a chubby below average looking Filipina fiancee a few years ago. Why you afraid to talk about that? Simple logic. If you could get high quality girls, you would not have sunk to much lower quality, especially that low. Simple logic.

No Winston. Simple logic would be this: I lived in the Philippines in 2009 BEFORE I ever sat foot inside of China. If you look at my passport, I haven't stepped one foot outside China ever since. I still get grief at hotels because they can't imagine I have been here that long and they keep asking to see my most recent entry stamp.

Does it make sense now? Can you wrap your head around step 1, step 2, step 3?

Or how about this? Think of it like your own situation. You went to Philippines first. You didn't like it. THEN you went to China and found better girls. Now can you understand? One happened before the other.

Which girls are you referring to in my album? Can you post the links to the photos directly? Each photo has a separate URL which you can find if you click on them. The one who wouldn't escalate things was the teacher in the black dress. I can sense from a girl's vibe and body language if she will allow me to escalate things. Body language is everything. Come on now. Anyone with real dating experience knows that.

This girl:

https://happierabroad.shutterfly.com/pictures/557

She is the best looking in your whole photo album. You should have stuck with her. The girls after her can't compare in looks.

[Yohan]

You guys,
Um, yeah there are dirty filthy parts of China. But you can avoid them. Most of Shenzhen and other cities are clean and modern and ok.
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You guys are cherry picking to try to make China look bad because you couldn't get any decent quality Chinese girls to date you or love you here.

All what I see on these pictures are high business and residential buildings next to HongKong, constructed around 2005, in the special economic zone of Futian district, which is the location of government related buildings and the central business district of Shenzhen, one of the most expensive area in the city and some pictures of Shenzhen Bay Park.

I do not see anything about attractive women outnumbering men 5:1 or something like that.

Yes, there are dirty filthy parts of China, but it seems you have not been there. There are also Chinese, several hundred millions of them, who are living with USD 1,- or USD 2,- per day.

[Winston]

Bullshit Terrence. If you did well in China and got hot girls with refined good skin and intelligence, you would not have had a chubby below average looking Filipina fiancee a few years ago. Why you afraid to talk about that? Simple logic. If you could get high quality girls, you would not have sunk to much lower quality, especially that low. Simple logic.

No Winston. Simple logic would be this: I lived in the Philippines in 2009 BEFORE I ever sat foot inside of China. If you look at my passport, I haven't stepped one foot outside China ever since. I still get grief at hotels because they can't imagine I have been here that long and they keep asking to see my most recent entry stamp.

Does it make sense now? Can you wrap your head around step 1, step 2, step 3?

Or how about this? Think of it like your own situation. You went to Philippines first. You didn't like it. THEN you went to China and found better girls. Now can you understand? One happened before the other.

Which girls are you referring to in my album? Can you post the links to the photos directly? Each photo has a separate URL which you can find if you click on them. The one who wouldn't escalate things was the teacher in the black dress. I can sense from a girl's vibe and body language if she will allow me to escalate things. Body language is everything. Come on now. Anyone with real dating experience knows that.

This girl:

https://happierabroad.shutterfly.com/pictures/557

She is the best looking in your whole photo album. You should have stuck with her. The girls after her can't compare in looks.

That wasn't a girl I dated. She worked in the hostel I stayed at. We were hanging out in the living room when that photo was taken. She wasn't interested in me. I dropped subtle hints of interest at her and flirted with her, but she did not respond with any interest. Interestingly, her name was Summer too, same as the Summer I dated. The Summer I dated was very cute and sweet. Everyone else said so. And Rock said her body was sexy and curvy.

Even if that chubby Filipina fiancee was from 2009, still the fact is that you have not been vouched for. All we know is that you are an argumentative black guy. Why don't you meet anyone? Where are you? Where are your photos and photos of your girls? At least everyone knows I'm real and transparent. You are just a guy who could be anyone, with no established credibility. Online, anyone can say anything.

Also, if you've been in China so long, why don't you make accurate statements about it like Ethan_sg and Zboy1 and I do?

[The_Adventurer]

All we know is that you are an argumentative black guy. Why don't you meet anyone? Where are you? Where are your photos and photos of your girls? At least everyone knows I'm real and transparent. You are just a guy who could be anyone, with no established credibility. Online, anyone can say anything.

Also, if you've been in China so long, why don't you make accurate statements about it like Ethan_sg and Zboy1 and I do?

Well, since you either don't read posts by or don't remember details about your users, it seems I am wasting my time by responding.

You probably don't remember that, over the years, I have done free graphics for you and used to promote your website and book everywhere. You used to email me directly with your technical questions about your site and computer stuff. We used to have discussions about website income and how to make it online. I've posted links to my website and blogs a dozen times and you used to ask me about the stuff I was doing, professionally and in my travels. I have posted links to videos of events I have attended abroad and the people I interacted with. I have been consistently accused of being a "rose tinted glasses" wearing China defender.

But now I all we know is that I am an argumentative black guy.

Why do I even bother?