You Can't Be A MGTOW And Be Married At The Same Time

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Re: You Can't Be A MGTOW And Be Married At The Same Time

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Quiet_observer wrote:
Adama, Everything about you is a lie. Right down to your stats here at HA. you're a bitter, fat woman. End of story. You argue your imaginary points like one and make no sense like one and you are constantly on the assault. I've quietly observed that one for several months now. Why dont you do as Im telling you to and Quietly observe Ezekiel 23:20? You're walking right into a highly moderated trap. Whose the idiot here? You'll find out soon enough.... Keep it up.....
Do you know how many women there are who would say the man should be in charge? That men are the boss? That women should be obedient to their husbands? If I have been saying that since the beginning of posting here, and you have been observing this, then you must be very unwise to think that I must be a woman. I don't know very many women who going around telling people women ought to submit to their husbands.

It is even rarer for anyone to go around saying that men have ALL the authority in the relationship.

How many women would say any of these? You're unwise.
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Re: You Can't Be A MGTOW And Be Married At The Same Time

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Nomad wrote:
About 2 months after joining this forum and having hardly no posts of my own, you have already made tons of assessments about me and my relationship to my wife, that were just flat out wrong. Now you accuse me of falsely judging you. Perhaps you would be right, if everyone else did not say the same thing. But the only one blind to their actions in this case is you. You make presumptions about people's lives, but to what end, I know not. Also, not all christians who criticize are false christians. Such a black and white view of the world. Paul himself has criticized the church. Jesus Christ in Revelation has criticized the church.
What assessments have I made about your wife specifically? List them.
Nomad wrote:
You have been nothing but judgemental of everyone here and their lives. You have no kindness in your tounge. The bible says to speak Truth with Love. You may speak the Truth, but not in love. You only have words of judgement for people and their choices. You don't have words of wisdom or advise. Wisdom is about keeping the peace, but your words cause strife.
That's just your opinion. Also, where have I been unmerciful? That was one of your original accusations. Nowhere. I'd be careful about making things up.
Nomad wrote:
I don't consider you a brother in Christ. Someone who has so much hate for other people, I can hardly believe you have a loving relationship to God. "If a man claims to love God, but hates his brother, he is a liar".

You don't have to consider me to be a brother in Christ at all. In fact, your disregard for the possibility even shows your true feelings about Christianity and Christ. If Christ says to behave a certain way towards a brother of the faith, you better do it. Not because I say so, but because Christ does. Do as you please though. I am not the one who will be in danger of hellfire as Jesus Himself says, for insulting a brother. If Jesus says that insulting brother is a serious crime, I would refrain from doing it. It is easy enough.

Meanwhile, you're too blind to see even the irony and hypocrisy of saying you won't respect me as a brother in Christ while quoting a verse that describes how you're not of Christ if you refuse to love me. Your refusal to love me, by your own admission in this very quote above, demonstrates how you are not of Christ. You even listed the verse proving that you are not of Christ right where you said you refuse to acknowledge me as a brother. Damn. Are you even alive inside that skull?

Nomad wrote:
I disagree with this statement. I am a MGTOW, perhaps now by the MGTOW Community not, because I got married. But because of MGTOW, my standards for women went up. Had I stayed in my blue-pill days, I would of went with any woman, and it would of been my fault. However, once I woke up to the truth, I realized I needed good standards.
It's very ironic that you feel I am full of hate (for people you haven't listed), but you fail to see how MGTOW is a hate movement. MGTOW hate both men and women. I've explained it numerous times. All the drawbacks of feminism, plus they are manginas who can't get laid, and they openly recommend that men live like monks.
Nomad wrote:
So now, I'm married to my christian wife, who was a virgin, loves the Lord with all her heart, is anti-feminist, gives generously, and always see's the positive things in life. I also believe I didn't pick her, though I tell myself that, because I prayed to the Lord for a wife, and literally I met her the very same day I had a deep sincere prayer to God. I consider myself very blessed with what type of woman God gave me from what is "available" out there.

But I am not MGTOW because i'm afraid of women or afraid of the government. I'm MGTOW because i'm ANTI-Male Suffering. Mgtow to me seems to be the only movement concerned with men's suffering at this time. Now you can make arguments that they are not, but at the moment, its the only group I have personally found, who atleast gives men a voice. Not even in American churches did I find any men retreats or any real truth about the world. Only more systematic programming.
I don't care if your wife is a virgin. I don't care if she is anti-feminist. I don't care if she gives generously. What relevance is this towards anything? Did I ask for these details? You felt you must volunteer them to prove what? I never made accusation against your wife that I recall.

Let me enlighten you a little bit on Christianity here, with some facts that you should already know, but apparently you don't.
  • Christ wants men and women to get married. Men Going Their Own Way is against men getting married. They recommend that men live unmarried.
  • Christ wants sex to take place within marriage. MGTOW recommend for men to use and discard women, either by straight "[intercourse] 'n Chuck", limiting relationships to two years, and the advocacy of using prostitutes. Tell me, how is it you are Christian and support a movement that recommends that men break these laws of Christ?
  • Christ says that doctrines which forbid men to get married are doctrines of devils (demons). Why do you support a movement which supports a doctrine of devils?
You can claim I hate all you want to. The problem is you don't even know the basics. You're just going through the motions, which you think are important. That's why you don't even know or care about little fundamental details about MGTOW that directly oppose Christ. Yet you consider yourself to be such a high Christian.

I do have ONE question for you, Nomad. Tell me, what is it a person must do in order to get into heaven? The proper answer is the only standard by which we can use to determine whether a person is a Christian or not.
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Re: You Can't Be A MGTOW And Be Married At The Same Time

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Nomad wrote:
That's not very Christian-like to call me unmerciful, when I have never been put in the position in which I would have to show mercy. Should you accuse a brother in a public forum rather than going to that brother in private? Is this wise for you to do to me as a Christian?
I don't consider you a brother in Christ. Someone who has so much hate for other people, I can hardly believe you have a loving relationship to God. "If a man claims to love God, but hates his brother, he is a liar".

You've been observing me for two months. Tell me, have I been posting the correct plan of salvation? And if I have, wouldn't that then make me a brother in Christ, an unbegotten son of God, your spiritual brother by adoption? If you see I have the correct doctrine, but you consider me to NOT be a brother, what does that say about you? That means that you're directly ignoring that I am your brother (which shows a complete disregard for the law because this one is easy to comply with and very important to Christ because He spoke of it Himself in the Bible). Or it means you yourself are not of Christ.

Do you believe the correct doctrine? Do you even know what the correct plan of salvation is? I doubt it. Otherwise you'd realize the gravity of respecting me as a brother.
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Re: You Can't Be A MGTOW And Be Married At The Same Time

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Quiet_observer wrote: Why dont you do as Im telling you to and Quietly observe Ezekiel 23:20? You're walking right into a highly moderated trap. Whose the idiot here? You'll find out soon enough.... Keep it up.....
I read the whole chapter at least two times and now I think I have a good grasp of what God is talking about. Ironically, it is describing two whorish sisters who become reprobates by sleeping with lots of men. In this chapter, one of the sisters become polluted. When God says polluted, He means she went back and forth between at least two men. A woman isn't supposed to go back to a man after she's had another man. These people were having group sex, which means she was going between multiple men in an orgy, resulting in pollution, which is worse than adultery.

God says His mind became alienated from these women as a result. To me that means He made them reprobate / irredeemable.

And as for the verse which you have warned me about, my dear friend, it seems it might be saying those men are well endowed, like donkeys, and those are the type she prefers. Otherwise it is a comparison to animals, which is rarely good.

Is this what you were warning me about? What is this highly moderated trap? Hey, you're the one who was in a relationship with a woman who would kick your butt if another woman wasn't there to protect you. Are you qualified to warn me about anything? I hope you were not using that verse to insult me because you think I am a woman. I am a saint; a son of God through faith in Christ Jesus. Keep insinuating that I am a woman, and keep trying to insult me sexually using the Bible to do it.
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Re: You Can't Be A MGTOW And Be Married At The Same Time

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Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote: Why dont you do as Im telling you to and Quietly observe Ezekiel 23:20? You're walking right into a highly moderated trap. Whose the idiot here? You'll find out soon enough.... Keep it up.....
I read the whole chapter at least two times and now I think I have a good grasp of what God is talking about. Ironically, it is describing two whorish sisters who become reprobates by sleeping with lots of men. In this chapter, one of the sisters become polluted. When God says polluted, He means she went back and forth between at least two men. A woman isn't supposed to go back to a man after she's had another man. These people were having group sex, which means she was going between multiple men in an orgy, resulting in pollution, which is worse than adultery.

God says His mind became alienated from these women as a result. To me that means He made them reprobate / irredeemable.

And as for the verse which you have warned me about, my dear friend, it seems it might be saying those men are well endowed, like donkeys, and those are the type she prefers. Otherwise it is a comparison to animals, which is rarely good.

Is this what you were warning me about? What is this highly moderated trap? Hey, you're the one who was in a relationship with a woman who would kick your butt if another woman wasn't there to protect you. Are you qualified to warn me about anything? I hope you were not using that verse to insult me because you think I am a woman. I am a saint; a son of God through faith in Christ Jesus. Keep insinuating that I am a woman, and keep trying to insult me sexually using the Bible to do it.
Lol, Adama. Its not that a woman could kick my butt, its that I cant retaliate in america without doing time in prison. And the woman that did the job for me could easily take you down. As for the rest of your drivel... Keep talking....
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Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote:
Adama, Everything about you is a lie. Right down to your stats here at HA. you're a bitter, fat woman. End of story. You argue your imaginary points like one and make no sense like one and you are constantly on the assault. I've quietly observed that one for several months now. Why dont you do as Im telling you to and Quietly observe Ezekiel 23:20? You're walking right into a highly moderated trap. Whose the idiot here? You'll find out soon enough.... Keep it up.....
Do you know how many women there are who would say the man should be in charge? That men are the boss? That women should be obedient to their husbands? If I have been saying that since the beginning of posting here, and you have been observing this, then you must be very unwise to think that I must be a woman. I don't know very many women who going around telling people women ought to submit to their husbands.

It is even rarer for anyone to go around saying that men have ALL the authority in the relationship.

How many women would say any of these? You're unwise.
You're missing the point and using psychobabble as logic. If the man is to be in charge, than you should be shutting your woman hole right now...... Simply because... You're not a man... and several men have told you to over the past few months. Try practicing what you preach... woman.
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Re: You Can't Be A MGTOW And Be Married At The Same Time

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Quiet_observer wrote:
Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote:
Adama, Everything about you is a lie. Right down to your stats here at HA. you're a bitter, fat woman. End of story. You argue your imaginary points like one and make no sense like one and you are constantly on the assault. I've quietly observed that one for several months now. Why dont you do as Im telling you to and Quietly observe Ezekiel 23:20? You're walking right into a highly moderated trap. Whose the idiot here? You'll find out soon enough.... Keep it up.....
Do you know how many women there are who would say the man should be in charge? That men are the boss? That women should be obedient to their husbands? If I have been saying that since the beginning of posting here, and you have been observing this, then you must be very unwise to think that I must be a woman. I don't know very many women who going around telling people women ought to submit to their husbands.

It is even rarer for anyone to go around saying that men have ALL the authority in the relationship.

How many women would say any of these? You're unwise.
You're missing the point and using psychobabble as logic. If the man is to be in charge, than you should be shutting your woman hole right now...... Simply because... You're not a man... and several men have told you to over the past few months. Try practicing what you preach... woman.
So now you get to define that a man means you must have a woman all the time? Where is that written? I am waiting on the right woman. They aren't as common as you think, and they are gifts from God. So I have to wait until He brings me one.

Also, you're not very smart. I'm just going to say that. I'm not mad at you, but if you can, you should attempt to wake up from this madness. But you can't.

I called out my women when they pulled crap on me. What did you do? Write down a list and use someone else to do the dirty work for you. And you're the man here? Just stop.
A good man is above pettiness. He is better than that.
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Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote:
Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote:
Adama, Everything about you is a lie. Right down to your stats here at HA. you're a bitter, fat woman. End of story. You argue your imaginary points like one and make no sense like one and you are constantly on the assault. I've quietly observed that one for several months now. Why dont you do as Im telling you to and Quietly observe Ezekiel 23:20? You're walking right into a highly moderated trap. Whose the idiot here? You'll find out soon enough.... Keep it up.....
Do you know how many women there are who would say the man should be in charge? That men are the boss? That women should be obedient to their husbands? If I have been saying that since the beginning of posting here, and you have been observing this, then you must be very unwise to think that I must be a woman. I don't know very many women who going around telling people women ought to submit to their husbands.

It is even rarer for anyone to go around saying that men have ALL the authority in the relationship.

How many women would say any of these? You're unwise.
You're missing the point and using psychobabble as logic. If the man is to be in charge, than you should be shutting your woman hole right now...... Simply because... You're not a man... and several men have told you to over the past few months. Try practicing what you preach... woman.
So now you get to define that a man means you must have a woman all the time? Where is that written? I am waiting on the right woman. They aren't as common as you think, and they are gifts from God. So I have to wait until He brings me one.

Also, you're not very smart. I'm just going to say that. I'm not mad at you, but if you can, you should attempt to wake up from this madness. But you can't.

I called out my women when they pulled crap on me. What did you do? Write down a list and use someone else to do the dirty work for you. And you're the man here? Just stop.
zzzzzzz. You're still a woman. Also, you're not very smart.. maybe if you can try not having the last word for a while, Ill wake up from this madness and realize you're really a guy. But till then..... You're a bitter woman with no soul. I dont hate you. Just calling it as I see it.
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Quiet_observer wrote:
Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote: Why dont you do as Im telling you to and Quietly observe Ezekiel 23:20? You're walking right into a highly moderated trap. Whose the idiot here? You'll find out soon enough.... Keep it up.....
I read the whole chapter at least two times and now I think I have a good grasp of what God is talking about. Ironically, it is describing two whorish sisters who become reprobates by sleeping with lots of men. In this chapter, one of the sisters become polluted. When God says polluted, He means she went back and forth between at least two men. A woman isn't supposed to go back to a man after she's had another man. These people were having group sex, which means she was going between multiple men in an orgy, resulting in pollution, which is worse than adultery.

God says His mind became alienated from these women as a result. To me that means He made them reprobate / irredeemable.

And as for the verse which you have warned me about, my dear friend, it seems it might be saying those men are well endowed, like donkeys, and those are the type she prefers. Otherwise it is a comparison to animals, which is rarely good.

Is this what you were warning me about? What is this highly moderated trap? Hey, you're the one who was in a relationship with a woman who would kick your butt if another woman wasn't there to protect you. Are you qualified to warn me about anything? I hope you were not using that verse to insult me because you think I am a woman. I am a saint; a son of God through faith in Christ Jesus. Keep insinuating that I am a woman, and keep trying to insult me sexually using the Bible to do it.
Lol, Adama. Its not that a woman could kick my butt, its that I cant retaliate in america without doing time in prison. And the woman that did the job for me could easily take you down. As for the rest of your drivel... Keep talking....
Do you see how childish this line of thinking is? Are you in some kind of measuring contest? See, instead of viewing me as a brother you view me as an adversary. I hate MGTOW. That is because this philosophy will ruin your life, not improve it. They aren't saving you. They are guaranteeing your misery. But if you want to be a complete fool, then go right ahead.

What? You're angry because I challenged your philosophy? You come up with childish insults and you can barely form a sentence. You need to wake up, if it isn't already too late, and it probably is already.

You should avoid women. I see why you are MGTOW. You can't pick women. With your luck and social skill set, you choose women who are violent enough that they'd go up against a full grown man. That's the kind of women YOU pick, and you don't even realize that the best way to take out the trash is to make them think they are dumping you. You should be MGTOW. You deserve it.
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Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote:
Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote: Why dont you do as Im telling you to and Quietly observe Ezekiel 23:20? You're walking right into a highly moderated trap. Whose the idiot here? You'll find out soon enough.... Keep it up.....
I read the whole chapter at least two times and now I think I have a good grasp of what God is talking about. Ironically, it is describing two whorish sisters who become reprobates by sleeping with lots of men. In this chapter, one of the sisters become polluted. When God says polluted, He means she went back and forth between at least two men. A woman isn't supposed to go back to a man after she's had another man. These people were having group sex, which means she was going between multiple men in an orgy, resulting in pollution, which is worse than adultery.

God says His mind became alienated from these women as a result. To me that means He made them reprobate / irredeemable.

And as for the verse which you have warned me about, my dear friend, it seems it might be saying those men are well endowed, like donkeys, and those are the type she prefers. Otherwise it is a comparison to animals, which is rarely good.

Is this what you were warning me about? What is this highly moderated trap? Hey, you're the one who was in a relationship with a woman who would kick your butt if another woman wasn't there to protect you. Are you qualified to warn me about anything? I hope you were not using that verse to insult me because you think I am a woman. I am a saint; a son of God through faith in Christ Jesus. Keep insinuating that I am a woman, and keep trying to insult me sexually using the Bible to do it.
Lol, Adama. Its not that a woman could kick my butt, its that I cant retaliate in america without doing time in prison. And the woman that did the job for me could easily take you down. As for the rest of your drivel... Keep talking....
Do you see how childish this line of thinking is? Are you in some kind of measuring contest? See, instead of viewing me as a brother you view me as an adversary. I hate MGTOW. That is because this philosophy will ruin your life, not improve it. They aren't saving you. They are guaranteeing your misery. But if you want to be a complete fool, then go right ahead.

What? You're angry because I challenged your philosophy? You come up with childish insults and you can barely form a sentence. You need to wake up, if it isn't already too late, and it probably is already.

You should avoid women. I see why you are MGTOW. You can't pick women. With your luck and social skill set, you choose women who are violent enough that they'd go up against a full grown man. That's the kind of women YOU pick, and you don't even realize that the best way to take out the trash is to make them think they are dumping you. You should be MGTOW. You deserve it.
You're still a woman. Who is choosing Not to obeying man...... Im not letting this go. You can keep talking however....
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Quiet_observer wrote:You're still a woman. Not obeying a man...... Im not letting this go. You can keep talking..
Your username. Er, at this point, why not give the verb in it a try?
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Quiet_observer wrote: You're still a woman. Who is choosing Not to obeying man...... Im not letting this go. You can keep talking however....
Dude, This is the internet. What? You calling me a woman is going to upset me? Have you seen what the "men" on here call me already? Do you think calling me a woman is going to hurt my feelings? It doesn't hurt my feelings because I know what I am. You're a total idiot for even thinking that calling me a woman is going to insult me as a man when I know I am a man. You know words on a screen, which you take so personally, which is fine, but because I want to unplug you from MGTOW? Stay with MGTOW and agree to disagree.

This MGTOW is a cult. That's why men like Yohan wish they could go back to live completely in MGTOW rather than having a family. It is a religion of fools. Hey, if you want to be a fool after I've told you about how foolish this nonsense is, then by all means, continue to do so. Let him who is unjust be unjust still.
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Adama wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote: You're still a woman. Who is choosing Not to obeying man...... Im not letting this go. You can keep talking however....
Dude, This is the internet. What? You calling me a woman is going to upset me? Have you seen what the "men" on here call me already? Do you think calling me a woman is going to hurt my feelings? It doesn't hurt my feelings because I know what I am. You're a total idiot for even thinking that calling me a woman is going to insult me as a man when I know I am a man. You know words on a screen, which you take so personally, which is fine, but because I want to unplug you from MGTOW? Stay with MGTOW and agree to disagree.

This MGTOW is a cult. That's why men like Yohan wish they could go back to live completely in MGTOW rather than having a family. It is a religion of fools. Hey, if you want to be a fool after I've told you about how foolish this nonsense is, then by all means, continue to do so. Let him who is unjust be unjust still.

Ata girl!! And leave Yohan out of this.... Hes shared more knowledge and wisdom in the time ive been here than you have. All you do is ( As they say here in the U.S ) "Throw shade". Im calling you a woman because I truly believe you are a woman. Its not to insult you. You've said several things that lead me to think you're one.
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Quiet_observer wrote:Ata girl!! And leave Yohan out of this.... Hes shared more knowledge and wisdom in the time ive been here than you have. All you do is ( As they say here in the U.S ) "Throw shade". Im calling you a woman because I truly believe you are a woman. Its not to insult you. You've said several things that lead me to think you're one.
Um...remember that quote by Nietzsche?
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Blue Murder wrote:
Quiet_observer wrote:Ata girl!! And leave Yohan out of this.... Hes shared more knowledge and wisdom in the time ive been here than you have. All you do is ( As they say here in the U.S ) "Throw shade". Im calling you a woman because I truly believe you are a woman. Its not to insult you. You've said several things that lead me to think you're one.
Um...remember that quote by Nietzsche?
"Do I care?" Is the better question.... You revealed something at #3. You were right about time revealing things..... I didn't bother at that point. Sorry, mate.
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