Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

[Adama]

Radar line of sight easily proves the earth is round with no nonsense to debate.

How they can go on and on and on and on and not see what is so obvious.

You must mean spherical, because the earth could be both flat and round like a circle at the same time.

[Adama]

Adama, come on. You've been pretty cool as of late. Please don't tell me you're going backwards and back to being a loony.

Not really. For most of human civilization, practically every human society there ever was believed the earth was round like a circle and flat. They knew you couldn't fall off the edge. So it isn't a loony theory. It is just one that is surrounded by great controversy.

People who believe in the Flat Earth get more slack than people who believe aliens seeded life on planet earth. There is something really different about this loony theory. Any other loony theory gets ignored, except for this one. It is perfectly plausible because, like I said, for at least 5,500 years (or until within the last 500 years if you believe otherwise), people believed the earth was flat. That is what our eyes tell us.

Science asks you to disbelieve your own eyes to believe their science. You can choose to do that. I believe my eyes over their lies. Until we can each get a ride on a rocket ship, that's what I'm sticking with.

[Blue Murder]

Not really. For most of human civilization, practically every human society there ever was believed the earth was round like a circle and flat. They knew you couldn't fall off the edge. So it isn't a loony theory. It is just one that is surrounded by great controversy.

People who believe in the Flat Earth get more slack than people who believe aliens seeded life on planet earth. There is something really different about this loony theory. Any other loony theory gets ignored, except for this one. It is perfectly plausible because, like I said, for at least 5,500 years (or until within the last 500 years if you believe otherwise), people believed the earth was flat. That is what our eyes tell us.

Science asks you to disbelieve your own eyes to believe their science. You can choose to do that. I believe my eyes over their lies. Until we can each get a ride on a rocket ship, that's what I'm sticking with.

That's a darn shame. I really thought you were changing for the better. I guess Yick and Marcos really are the only two sane HA members. I'm not going to contribute anything to this debate beyond this: Shuttles and space cameras have seen and/or taken pictures of Earth, and it's always round. That's why the flat earth theory gets more flak than the alien life theory; the former is looking at the blue sky and saying it's orange.

[The_Adventurer]

You assume that by the time they allow civilian tourism on a rocket ship it won't just be an elaborate VR simulation.

[Adama]

I realize that a Flat Earth is a serious possibility, and does not deserve ridicule.

That's a pretty novel idea right there. Most people feel that if you disagree with this that it makes you either a great deceiver or a massive retard, if not both. They use it to destroy credibility.

Adama you have never refuted what I posted about Radar technology on the oceans proving the earth is round, so please do so.

Radar signals prove the earth is round...........

I don't believe he realizes how foolish all this is as well as Winston. Winston likes to promote himself world wide as an authority on certain subjects and gets a lot right but then gets some points majorly wrong and just plainly shoots himself in the foot as far as any credibility goes in the future about anything.

You mistake this for a debate. This is not a debate but a discussion. I am under no obligation to prove or disprove anything. This isn't as serious as that. Believe what you want. No skin off my back. Also, anyone can insult me and my intelligence, just to prove whatever point they'd like to make.

[Adama]

Not really. For most of human civilization, practically every human society there ever was believed the earth was round like a circle and flat. They knew you couldn't fall off the edge. So it isn't a loony theory. It is just one that is surrounded by great controversy.

People who believe in the Flat Earth get more slack than people who believe aliens seeded life on planet earth. There is something really different about this loony theory. Any other loony theory gets ignored, except for this one. It is perfectly plausible because, like I said, for at least 5,500 years (or until within the last 500 years if you believe otherwise), people believed the earth was flat. That is what our eyes tell us.

Science asks you to disbelieve your own eyes to believe their science. You can choose to do that. I believe my eyes over their lies. Until we can each get a ride on a rocket ship, that's what I'm sticking with.

That's a darn shame. I really thought you were changing for the better. I guess Yick and Marcos really are the only two sane HA members. I'm not going to contribute anything to this debate beyond this: Shuttles and space cameras have seen and/or taken pictures of Earth, and it's always round. That's why the flat earth theory gets more flak than the alien life theory; the former is looking at the blue sky and saying it's orange.

NASA is created by military intelligence and Freemasonry. You can choose to believe them if you want to. Just like you can choose to believe the media and the government. Hey, you can label me as insane. Do you think I live by popular opinion?

[Adama]

You assume that by the time they allow civilian tourism on a rocket ship it won't just be an elaborate VR simulation.

Yes, just another deception. Why not? War is peace. Ignorance is freedom, and all that.

[Ghost]

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[Ghost]

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[Moretorque]

You assume that by the time they allow civilian tourism on a rocket ship it won't just be an elaborate VR simulation.

Yes, just another deception. Why not? War is peace. Ignorance is freedom, and all that.

People like him give Christianity a bad name or good depending on how you look at it possibly from a simpletons point of view..

Simply put Adama should have lived thousands of years ago!

[Adama]

You assume that by the time they allow civilian tourism on a rocket ship it won't just be an elaborate VR simulation.

Yes, just another deception. Why not? War is peace. Ignorance is freedom, and all that.

People like him give Christianity a bad name or good depending on how you look at it possibly from a simpletons point of view..

Simply put Adama should have lived thousands of years ago!

Machiavelli was right. Most people lack the depth of penetration and are just surface level thinkers. They see the surface and that's what they judge by, and they seek to go no further. That's fine, but that is why they assume so much about others.

[Moretorque]

You assume that by the time they allow civilian tourism on a rocket ship it won't just be an elaborate VR simulation.

Yes, just another deception. Why not? War is peace. Ignorance is freedom, and all that.

People like him give Christianity a bad name or good depending on how you look at it possibly from a simpletons point of view..

Simply put Adama should have lived thousands of years ago!

Machiavelli was right. Most people lack the depth of penetration and are just surface level thinkers. They see the surface and that's what they judge by, and they seek to go no further. That's fine, but that is why they assume so much about others.

No Adama, your full of $hit as Ghost stated. Just like the christers have been for thousands of years. Fortunately some other individuals have had a higher level of thought so we could try and move out of the stone ages but others will take us right back, does that ring a bell at all.....?

[Adama]

You assume that by the time they allow civilian tourism on a rocket ship it won't just be an elaborate VR simulation.

Yes, just another deception. Why not? War is peace. Ignorance is freedom, and all that.

People like him give Christianity a bad name or good depending on how you look at it possibly from a simpletons point of view..

Simply put Adama should have lived thousands of years ago!

Machiavelli was right. Most people lack the depth of penetration and are just surface level thinkers. They see the surface and that's what they judge by, and they seek to go no further. That's fine, but that is why they assume so much about others.

No Adama, your full of $hit as Ghost stated. Just like the christers have been for thousands of years. Fortunately some other individuals have had a higher level of thought so we could try and move out of the stone ages but others will take us right back, does that ring a bell at all.....?

Well fine. Hey, believe what you want. That's what people do. They believe what they want to. Am I stopping you?? I only presented an alternate idea. You are not obligated to accept it. Don't you get that?

[Winston]

El_caudillo told me something interesting that may lay this whole issue to rest. He said that only Americans can fall for the flat earth theory whereas New Zealanders cannot. Because NZers travel a lot and have flown from New Zealand to the bottom of South America.

The thing is, on a flat earth model, NZ and South America are at opposite ends of the flat disc shaped earth model. So it would take a lot of time to fly between them. El_caudillo has flown from NZ to the lower part of South America before and it only took 14 hours he said, without any refueling stop. So he knows this first hand.

Now the thing is, when you fly from West coast America to East Asia, it also takes about 14 hours, plus or minus a few. That would be impossible on a flat earth model because America to Asia would be on a route arced along the INNER circle of the flat earth disc, while NZ to South America would be along the OUTER rim of the flat earth disc, thus traversing a much greater distance.

If you look at the flat earth map, you will see this. Even if you try to cut across the middle of the flat earth map, it would still take a lot longer than 14 hours to fly from NZ to South America on such a map.

Thus a flat earth model is technically impossible on this point alone, he says. That's why flat earth theory cannot fool New Zealanders, he says.

[Winston]

El_caudillo showed me some interesting new images of earth from a Russian satellite.

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/gizmodo.co ... id-samsung

It includes a new time lapse video of earth too.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6twFHqJ03_k[/youtube]

Interesting. Note that:

1. The Russian image of earth is a lot more colorful.
2. The time lapse video shows no rotation or earth whatsoever.
3. The Russian image shows earth having a slight oblate pear shape, in accordance with NASA's new announcement that earth is pear shaped, not a sphere. But in contrast, all of NASA's images of earth, including the 1972 photo, show a PERFECT SPHERE.

I was also gonna ask anyway, since NASA is a proven pathological liar and murderer - and I've given many examples - why do you give them any credibility? All the globe earthers dodge this question and wont touch it. Not even droid or ghost will touch that question.