The Truth Behind Islam

[Yohan]

Meanwhile, except for the USA (under the current President though), western countries are admitting these people in by the millions. Before Islam disappears, it will be taking Buddhism, Christianity, and Hinduism down with it.

I am a bit more optimistic.
USA is not alone regulating the issues about Islam.

China is now on its best way to ban the Quran claiming 'extremist content'.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/china/a ... Koran.html

http://shoebat.com/2015/06/30/china-ban ... -complain/

Also Europe is reacting slowly, but it is starting, there are now so-called Burqa-ban laws, and laws against financing certain Muslim projects with money from abroad, much more immigration restrictions than ever before.

Here in Japan, there is no problem with Islam at all as there is little immigration and so far only about 0.2 percent or so of the Japanese population are Muslims (most of them from Indonesia/Malaysia) - this is a Buddhist country, and the huge majority of the Japanese people are plainly not interested in Islam. Even here in central Tokyo you see only a few Muslims, most of them tourists.

I see no problem in USA either, as only 3 % are Muslims want to live among the infidels.

[Yohan]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8HGGWu5qWI[/youtube]

I do not see any Muslim to speak for himself or herself in this video above.
No idea who this person is.

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Let use see some other video, where you can see a few Muslims in Japan and interesting also to read the follow-up comments.
Anyway, whatever, Muslim population is insignificant in Japan.

Neat Turkish and US-Embassy, no protest directly against Japan.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1tKrVVg8hg[/youtube]

This 'funny' guy says, this is a peaceful protest, he only wants to behead somebody who does not agree with him...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPH9A7jnWcE[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKY5bFe_b-o[/youtube]

[Yohan]

Oppressed Muslim woman....
Any idea in which country this video was taken? France or maybe Belgium I guess.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MhLcCbg8E4[/youtube]

This is quite informative about these few educated Muslims in Japan and their activities,
but again near the end of this video he is starting proselytizing, and of course there is no explanation, how to leave Islam it if you do not want to be a Muslim any longer - and that's really the problem...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6sTQ2DW5SU[/youtube]

[xtravel]

You’re certainly pussified if you think that mindless female whims count for anything. The West is currently ZOG occupied territory, so of course the Jews and their pets get to plunder our stuff. Men if free countries don’t put up with this bullshit.

It counts if I'm getting laid and you are whining about it.

But if you think me enjoying p***y while you remain a virgin makes me the p***y then go right ahead if it makes you happy.

[Yohan]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... orism.html

Suspected terrorist with Islamic State group flag stabs a police officer before mowing down a crowd of people with a U-Haul van in Canada leaving at least five injured
Canadian police have one person in custody; it's unclear if he acted alone
Chaos began outside a Canadian Football League game Saturday night

Knecht said an Islamic State group flag was found in the front seat of the car
Hours later U-Haul van swerved at pedestrians at crosswalks, leaving at least four people injured
Police say driver of car is believed to be same as U-Haul van; they have not released his name
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Police say a white Chevrolet Malibu rammed a traffic control barricade and sent an officer flying into the air 15 feet.
Knecht said the driver, believed to be 30 years old, then got out and attacked the officer with a knife before fleeing on foot.

[Yohan]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ation.html

BREAKING NEWS: Two passengers are killed as attacker shouting 'Allahu Akbar' slits a woman's throat with a butcher's knife and stabs another at Marseille station before soldiers shoot him dead
Attacker stabbed two female passengers at Gare de Marseille-Saint-Charles
He was shot dead by the French army who swarmed the area this afternoon
Reports claim he was heard shouting 'Allahu Akbar' before stabbing passengers
Both victims were women, one of whom was left 'with a sliced neck'

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France remains under a state of emergency following a series of attacks by Islamist radicals linked to Islamic State and Al-Qaeda.

http://www.france24.com/en/20171001-fre ... ife-attack

Two women were stabbed to death and their assailant shot dead by soldiers in the southern port city of Marseille on Sunday in what police sources described as a "likely terrorist act".

Three police sources said the suspect had shouted "Allahu Akbar" (God is greatest) as he carried out his attack at Marseille train station. No further details were immediately available.

Police cordoned off the area.

Link for French speakers:
http://www.france24.com/fr/20171001-mar ... terrorisme
Un homme a été abattu par les militaires de l'opération Sentinelle dimanche sur le parvis de la gare Saint-Charles à Marseille après avoir tué deux femmes à l'arme blanche. Le parquet antiterroriste a été saisi.

[MrPeabody]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIZvYHCJfbo[/youtube]

[Misko_Varesanovic]

1. Sir, are you aware that the world's largest cinema industry - India's Bollywood - is dominated (in terms of impact and status) by Muslim actors and directors, and that Bollywood film titles and song lyrics are often in Urdu, not Hindi, because Urdu is regarded as a richer and more romantic language?

2. Are you also aware that Turkey is the now the second-largest exporter of scripted TV series after the United States? This means that Turkey now exports more soap operas than Mexico and Brazil. Heck, Turkey exports soap operas to Latin America!

3. Re: pleasure, it is so ironic that you have this perspective because as I wrote in an earlier post, for almost all of the Islamic world's history - right up until 1979 - it was viewed in the West as a place for pleasure-seekers, in contrast to the morally-upstanding Christian West. The Muslim world was seen as some kind of man's paradise, where even an ordinary man was entitled to have up to four wives; meanwhile, the Sultan or Emir had access to unimaginable sexual ecstasies with countless numbers of beautiful women.
This was, of course, a caricature, just as the Muslim world today is generally not the repressed society of the contemporary imagination.

The guideline what is permissible in Islam is not India or Turkey, but Saudi Arabia.
http://listverse.com/2012/11/12/top-10- ... di-arabia/

Further, what is produced for EXPORT to Western countries does not mean it is considered for consumption of local people.

I never considered Islam - even not when I was still a young man - as something which does offer any form of pleasure - it was never a man's paradise, at least not if we talk about any ordinary young man living in wide parts of the Islamic world. It was never a pleasure for poor women too.

It was and still is only a paradise for the very rich Islamic people, for both men and women, who just get on an airplane to Rome, London, Paris, New York, Tokyo. Bangkok and enjoy there, what is missing in their own Islamic world.

Ordinary Muslim men are often horribly poor, are forced to work for very little money, living in large slums, and often are single and lonely... because for marriage, for a girl you have to pay... money is money. - Where is the 'pleasure' for these ordinary young Muslim men?

Nobody can deny, that especially in Islam there is a huge separation not only by gender, but also by wealth.
The difference between poor and rich is shocking. Somehow slaves and master...

Actually, the reverse is true. Saudi Arabia is one of only two countries in the world which has Wahhabism as the state religion. Wahabbis don't even recognise three of the four schools of Sunni law/ethics/philosophy, let alone the Shiite schools. It is therefore literally impossible for their rulings to to be regarded as valid for anyone apart from them and maybe Qatar - and we all know how that turned out.

Re: the idea that Indians and Turks somehow do not consume their own cultural products, that is just, like, wow!

As for the perception of Islam as a sort of man's paradise, this was the consensus perception of Western orientalist scholars. What you or I may think is irrelevant - this was the consensus.

[Misko_Varesanovic]

In truth, that's a massive and outdated generalisation. And don't take my word for it - ask any international economist and they will tell you that Muslim-majority countries are some of the fastest-growing and strategically vital economies in the world.
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Making wild blanket statements about the best part of two billion people is an exercise in futility.

If this what you write is true, Muslims would not line up to become immigrants in huge numbers to the Western world, but would move to all these rich Islamic Republics.

However even Islamic media does not share your opinion. Just see a few comments below.

And it is still the infidel, which countries provide food assistance to poor Muslim people. Of course without any thanks in return.
I don't know about any Muslim country, which provides any help to any poor non-Muslim population.

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/n ... poor-.html
Why are Muslim countries poor?

http://www.alhudacibe.com/imhd/news22.php
Poverty in Muslim World is Rapidly Increasing: Zubair Mughal

(Tunis) Half of global poverty reside in Muslim world while the Muslim population is 24% of the total global population, if the dangerously increasing poverty in the Muslim community is not controlled soon then it will be alarming.
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..... the countries mentioned in the list are China, India, Brazil and Chili etc. but when we look at the enlisted countries we will come to know that then countries mentioned in the list are not Muslim and by this we will come to know that the poverty is decreasing in non Muslim countries and increasing in Muslim world.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2013 ... d16ac6282c
Why Have The Islamic Countries Failed To Develop Even With Resources Like Oil, While Countries With No Resources Like Switzerland Have Flourished?

Most Muslim migrants do move to richer parts of the OIC, usually within the same country. Only a tiny fraction end up in the West.

Turks - who are by far the largest Muslim-majority nationality within the EU - have experienced net migration back to Turkey since c.2010, similar to Mexicans in the US. They don't all want to come here - that's a total myth. Why would you want to leave a country which averaged 6.7% growth/year between 2010 and 2016 to come to a bloc where you face discrimination in a stagnant jobs market?

[Misko_Varesanovic]

But even where the conversion law is in place, you do realise that it's a nominal conversion, right? What this means in practice is that you have to fill in some forms and turn up to a ceremony. If you can't do that for the woman you love and want to spend the rest of your life with, then of course it's not for you.

Why should a man change his religion or his atheist opinion into converting to Islam to live with a Muslim woman?

For one, Muslim women are generally more attached to their religion than post-Christian women in the West. It very likely matters to them and their families, and it can be a dealbreaker in a relationship. They don't want to negate what they see as an important religious teaching.

If that's not your bag, no problem. If you're not serious about relationships and are only looking for casual flings, then scouting for girls in most non-Western countries is going to be at least a relative waste of time - they are more socially conservative than those your own domestic scene.

Every religion has its own rules. If you are a serious Catholic and want to join the priesthood, you have to swear off all women for life. You can't get married at all. But I assume you don't have a problem with this.

[Yohan]

Muslim women are generally more attached to their religion than post-Christian women in the West. It very likely matters to them and their families, and it can be a dealbreaker in a relationship. They don't want to negate what they see as an important religious teaching.

It's a difference between 'do not want' and 'are not allowed (and being threatened with beatings, acid attack and even with honor killing by relatives!)

Every religion has its own rules. If you are a serious Catholic and want to join the priesthood, you have to swear off all women for life. You can't get married at all. But I assume you don't have a problem with this.

If you are a Catholic or a follower of any other religion, except Islam, you can leave anytime this religion and nobody will ever follow you.

Only if you are a Muslim, apostasy law will ask for your execution.

This is a very serious problem which shows that Islam is a medieval backwarded religion.

So-called apostasy and blasphemy laws have no place in any advanced modern society.
It also shows that Islam is not tolerating the value of freedom of religion.

Obviously any crazy Muslim can kill innocent people somewhere in Western countries and it seems no Muslim has a problem with that - it's only about a few dead infidels, like now in Marseille.

But it seems Muslims have a problem if any infidel is creating a cartoon...

Ridiculous!

[Yohan]

Actually, the reverse is true. Saudi Arabia is one of only two countries in the world which has as the state religion. Wahabbis don't even recognise three of the four schools of Sunni law/ethics/philosophy, let alone the Shiite schools. It is therefore literally impossible for their rulings to to be regarded as valid for anyone apart from them and maybe Qatar - and we all know how that turned out.

The Holy Place for ALL Muslims is located in Saudi Arabia, the origin of Islam is clearly from that region and no Muslim I ever met, is questioning this.
It is clear that Wahhabism is the guardian of pure Islamic teaching.
You could say the same about the Vatican and the Catholic Church.

Re: the idea that Indians and Turks somehow do not consume their own cultural products, that is just, like, wow!

India is not a Muslim country, hardly to claim that anything related to Islam is 'India's own cultural product'.

About Turks, a huge number of them are living outside of Turkey, often doing business with their native country, where costs of labor are considerably cheaper compared to the West and of course a large part of their own local products are for export and why not? It's not only about 'cultural products' like videos or music etc. I see nothing wrong with it.

As for the perception of Islam as a sort of man's paradise, this was the consensus perception of Western orientalist scholars. What you or I may think is irrelevant - this was the consensus.

Only a feminist without any knowledge of the real situation in Islamic countries can claim such a nonsense.

If you really think, Islam is the paradise for men, then I wonder why so many Muslim men want to leave those countries.
Of course it's about economic reasons, better a good life as Muslim man among infidels than a poor life as Muslim man among Muslims I guess.

[MrPeabody]

Muslim women are generally more attached to their religion than post-Christian women in the West. It very likely matters to them and their families, and it can be a dealbreaker in a relationship. They don't want to negate what they see as an important religious teaching.

It's a difference between 'do not want' and 'are not allowed (and being threatened with beatings, acid attack and even with honor killing by relatives!)

Every religion has its own rules. If you are a serious Catholic and want to join the priesthood, you have to swear off all women for life. You can't get married at all. But I assume you don't have a problem with this.

If you are a Catholic or a follower of any other religion, except Islam, you can leave anytime this religion and nobody will ever follow you.

Only if you are a Muslim, apostasy law will ask for your execution.

This is a very serious problem which shows that Islam is a medieval backwarded religion.

So-called apostasy and blasphemy laws have no place in any advanced modern society.
It also shows that Islam is not tolerating the value of freedom of religion.

Obviously any crazy Muslim can kill innocent people somewhere in Western countries and it seems no Muslim has a problem with that - it's only about a few dead infidels, like now in Marseille.

But it seems Muslims have a problem if any infidel is creating a cartoon...

Ridiculous!

Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world.

"Indonesia does not have a law against apostasy, and the constitution provides for freedom of religion, accords "all persons shall be free to choose and to practice the religion of his/her choice"."

[Yohan]

Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in the world.
"Indonesia does not have a law against apostasy, and the constitution provides for freedom of religion, accords "all persons shall be free to choose and to practice the religion of his/her choice"."

Indonesia has blasphemy laws, which are used against any Muslim who decides to leave the Islamic faith, almost the same as apostasy laws.

Blasphemy laws were used in the past against atheists, and even against Christians if they say anything, which does not fit the Muslim.

To say something like 'God does not exist' might send you in Indonesia behind bars for years.

A part of Indonesia, Aceh, in Western Sumatra, is under Sharia law, which overrides Indonesian law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_c ... aw_in_Aceh
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... nesia.html

Not so free as you claim it to be...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... n-province
Aceh flogs 13 young people for breaking its strict Islamic laws

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOABjtNMYXQ[/youtube]

[MrPeabody]

"Christian terrorist kills 50 in Las Vegas"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/us/l ... dates.html