I largely feel the same way. I tried monogamy and even got engaged to a Latina at one point, but now that I am more mature and have a greater depth of life experience and self-knowledge, I don't think that I'm really wired for permanent monogamy either. It just doesn't feel natural to me. Instead I feel more wired for serial monogamy or FWB arrangements. I would much rather have the occasional fling with a hot passionate Latina who wants to have the back knocked out of her by a masculine European gentleman like myself or fulfill the fantasies of a sexually frustrated charming Latina MILF. Like you, WilliamSmith, I'm an ethical non-monogamous dude and not a course and vulgar PUA/pump-n-dumper. I want the woman to enjoy the encounter too and to feel appreciated and sexually satisfied. And, yes, as you constantly point out, women are just as sexual as men and are often extremely enthusiastic about sex when it's with a man to whom they are actually sexually attracted.WilliamSmith wrote: ↑September 28th, 2022, 6:45 pmNo, I'll let @Lucas88 speak for himself, but I just think monogamy doesn't really work as well as traditionalists say even if I wish it did, but something like 70% I think of marriages in the Western world fail based on the fairly recent stats I read, and something like 85% of relationships end eventually (not that it is always acrimonious between the man and woman, but they still end), and in general I personally think we men are more wired for polygamy (even if that's not a workable proposition in many countries, but I mean having sex with multiple women), and women seem more wired for serial monogamy, but we can get back into that discussion later because I already had another one of those days where when there's no women on my day planner I spend the entire damn day on HA because I've just never seen anything like it, LOL.
I believe that what @Outcast9428 calls "right-leaning liberal" societies (i.e., with sexual liberalism but without high levels of feminism or leftwing social doctrines) are the healthiest social environments in this day and age while tradcon societies with streaks of Jewdeo-Christian puritanism are far more prone to sexual neuroses. I remember you saying that you wanted to start a thread on that topic which would be super interesting in my opinion. Outcast blames sexual liberalism for everything that is bad about sex and dating in the "West", but I contend that it is just feminism and the hypercompetitivity of certain cultures that is to blame for much of the dysfunction, not sexual liberalism itself. In my view the Latin world is more sexually liberal than the Anglosphere yet at the same time the influence of feminism and misandry is less pronounced and the social climate is less competitive, and relations between men and women are generally much more normal and positive. In the absence of toxic feminism and obsession with social competition, women are generally friendly towards men and have realistic expectations. Men are not seen as creeps for wanting sex like they are in Anglo countries. All kinds of guys can get sex or a relationship with relative ease (even if they stand at 5'6" and are a dark-skinned indio).
I think that the major problems that exist in some sexually liberal societies are mostly due to specific cultural problems which have merged with sexual liberalism. In the Anglosphere we have perhaps the most misandric strain of feminism which seeks to relentlessly demonize men and male sexuality and turn women against us, and then on top of that a hypercompetitive culture (in my view a legacy of England's historical Protestant work ethic and general materialism) with an obsession for social status and a distinction of "winners vs. losers". Japan on the other hand lacks the feminism but at the same time it suffers from a work-obsessed culture which makes earnings and professional status the be-all end-all and is therefore competitive despite the outward façade of wa 和 or social harmony. Needless to say, both of these societies have serious dysfunctions when it comes to sex and dating and have high levels of male sexlessness. I have personally lived in the feministic sexually liberal society of the UK, the beta-provideristic sexually conservative society of Japan, and the non-feministic/low-competitive sexually liberal societies of Latin America, and the former two are both pretty bad while the latter is by far the best.
In my analysis, feministic sexually liberal societies and tradcon societies (whether they be of the Japanese-style beta-provideristic or the puritanical religious nut variety) are just two different types of sexual dystopias respectively. Even though Outcast seems to have good intentions, I find the kind of theocratic tradcon utopia that he proposes almost as dystopian as the modern feminist societies that he denounces.
If given the choice, why be born into an Anglo-feminist society that demonizes male sexuality and makes men jump through countless hoops just for a bit of sex or romance, or a work-obsessed East Asian industrial dystopia that makes commitment to relentless toil the prerequisite for sexual access, when you can just be born into a relaxed, free-spirited, passionate sexually liberal Latin country and gain access to sex relatively easily? After all, sex goes hand in hand with happiness and wellbeing.
) regardless of sexual liberalism or not. I don't hate the UK because I'm a bitter, angry inbred mutant-looking British incel who can't get laid with semi-androgynous British ladettes (I don't touch British women anyway because I'm too much of an Anglophobe). I hate the UK because I think that Mediterranean/Latin culture is so much superior, that Latin women are so much more beautiful, and that Spanish is a superior language (well, y'all's American English is kinda okay, but British English is just plain repulsive 
). So yeah, I believe that the UK sucks because it's the UK and therefore an Anglo country (and one that is infested with feminism and misandry to boot), not because of sexual liberalism.
