I'm guessing California really is hell of all states to avoid American women. Of course New Yorkers are equal to Californians. Most of the West Coast is like California to be precise. Just move to Seattle Washington. Home of Antifa.Outcast9428 wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 3:18 pmI’d honestly take American girls over Western European girlsJackfruits wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 2:38 pmNot a troll. Probably younger than you as well and I'm luckily NOT an American. Western European to be precise so less obeseWanderingProtagonist wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2022, 10:35 am..A troll response, you can't remotely be serious with this...Jackfruits wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2022, 2:07 amI guess from personal experience cuz I totally agree on that part. The worst on the scale of loyalness I would say are Vietnamese women. But it's pretty spot on. I think I would rather date western women over Vietnamese or Thai women. At least in the West they will not try to take you to the cleaners as much as Vietnamese or Thai
American women are notorious for taking men to the "cleaners" as they like to call it.. Unless the American girl was from California
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6 Reasons Why Thai Girls Are Better Than Western Women
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Yeah I definitely include New York, Washington, and Oregon to that list.WanderingProtagonist wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 6:58 pmI'm guessing California really is hell of all states to avoid American women. Of course New Yorkers are equal to Californians. Most of the West Coast is like California to be precise. Just move to Seattle Washington. Home of Antifa.Outcast9428 wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 3:18 pmI’d honestly take American girls over Western European girlsJackfruits wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 2:38 pmNot a troll. Probably younger than you as well and I'm luckily NOT an American. Western European to be precise so less obeseWanderingProtagonist wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2022, 10:35 am..A troll response, you can't remotely be serious with this...Jackfruits wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2022, 2:07 amI guess from personal experience cuz I totally agree on that part. The worst on the scale of loyalness I would say are Vietnamese women. But it's pretty spot on. I think I would rather date western women over Vietnamese or Thai women. At least in the West they will not try to take you to the cleaners as much as Vietnamese or Thai
American women are notorious for taking men to the "cleaners" as they like to call it.. Unless the American girl was from California
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Seattle and all that was pretty okay in the early 1990s, but the same can be said for California too. Things really took a nose dive fast once democrats completely took over though. Now it's at the point where they just want to tell everybody "Look, we don't want any poor or middle class people over here anymore, only wealthy people are allowed to live in this state. So get the f**k out of here. Don't want to leave? Fine we'll make you leave, by 2023 everyone must be able to afford electric cars. Too poor to get one? Oh well!" At one point people fleeing the state were being punished for trying to run away. They were being taxed for leaving. Newsom felt "betrayed." Especially by those that tried to recall him. -sighs- it feels like Lord of the Rings 3 when that king was losing everything, he was going to set himself on fire along with his son and burn together. But instead he caught on fire himself, tried to run but threw himself high off the Castle tower falling to his own death.Outcast9428 wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 7:34 pmYeah I definitely include New York, Washington, and Oregon to that list.WanderingProtagonist wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 6:58 pmI'm guessing California really is hell of all states to avoid American women. Of course New Yorkers are equal to Californians. Most of the West Coast is like California to be precise. Just move to Seattle Washington. Home of Antifa.Outcast9428 wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 3:18 pmI’d honestly take American girls over Western European girlsJackfruits wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 2:38 pmNot a troll. Probably younger than you as well and I'm luckily NOT an American. Western European to be precise so less obeseWanderingProtagonist wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2022, 10:35 am
..A troll response, you can't remotely be serious with this...
American women are notorious for taking men to the "cleaners" as they like to call it.. Unless the American girl was from California
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Re: 6 Reasons Why Thai Girls Are Better Than Western Women
Many rich Thai in politics and business are Chinese related. For example Thaksin Shinawatra 丘達新 is a Chinese, now with his family in exile.publicduende wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 9:21 am
Well, even worse then. I was told that Thai girls are an absolute nightmare foir Thai young men, as well. From what I heard and, I repeat, never had any intention to ascertain by personal experience, even upper middle and upper class ladies who should be - in theory - better educated, more navigated and savvier, display all the traits of the typical Chinese spoiled daughter: shallow, materialistic, bitchy, the social clinger (clinging on the back of a social climber) type, always overestimating their talents, etc etc.
I have a former colleague, a Bitcoin millionaire (apparently there are quite a few) who chose Bangkok as his living base. He is not uber-rich but is doing quite well. He has multiple homes, a boat and all mod cons. Thing is, he is married to an upper-middle-class Thai woman who gave him 3 children. No idea how she looks like. All I know is he is constantly complaining about how her parents, especially her father, even after so many years of marriage, keeps nagging him about getting freebies simply because "he is the man of the house" and "he should be constantly showing respect and gratitude towards his in-laws"....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra
The famous RedBull owner was a Chinese, 許書標 and all his family clan members are super rich too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaleo_Yoovidhya
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/worl ... -heir.html
A good example of being superrich, even if you are only the grandson of the clan.
Full text, click on the link above.
At least they paid compensation to his family as condolence money...not such a small sum for an ordinary Thai family...but this sum is nothing compared to their wealth, more likely just a tip.Just before dawn on a dark Bangkok street on a September night in 2012, a speeding Ferrari struck and killed a motorcycle police officer. The driver fled the scene, but a trail of leaking engine fluid led the police to his door — and the damaged Ferrari — a short distance away.
The police arrested the driver, Vorayuth Yoovidhaya, the grandson of the inventor of the Red Bull energy drink and heir to one of Thailand’s greatest fortunes. The police said at the time that he had been intoxicated and admitted that his car hit the officer, Wichean Glanprasert.
But in a case often cited as an example of the special treatment received by Thailand’s elite, Mr. Vorayuth was never brought to justice. He fled the country and has been living in luxury for years.
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Soon after the crash, Mr. Vorayuth’s family paid the police officer’s family nearly $100,000 in compensation and Mr. Vorayuth resumed his jet-set lifestyle, traveling around the world on private Red Bull jets, keeping a Porsche in London and staying in luxury hotels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalerm_Yoovidhya
Chalerm Yoovidhya 許書恩 1950 is a Thai billionaire businessman and heir to the Red Bull fortune. As of 2020, Forbes estimates his net worth at US$20.2 billion.
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As I said already before in this thread in Thailand there is this sick idea that the foreigner (farang man) should pay for everything. It is up to you to say a clear NO, and if she does not like that let her go and look for somebody else. There is no difference if the woman and her family clan are rich or poor. Everywhere the same.
What you describe here is about the life style of very rich people where money is always available, almost unlimited, lost any connection to the real daily life - but the basic idea, that the farang should pay for everything does nevertheless exist. - Anyway, such rich women from such families are out of question for all of us in this forum.
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That, I know. Philippine high society is also full of people of Chinese heritage and culture. However, Chinese people in the Philippines have a long history of social isolation. They were allowed to trade, yet were considered an inferior class to the people of Spanish or Western descent, or even the wealthy locals. Much like Jewish people were treated in Europe.Yohan wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 9:48 pmMany rich Thai in politics and business are Chinese related. For example Thaksin Shinawatra 丘達新 is a Chinese, now with his family in exile.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thaksin_Shinawatra
The famous RedBull owner was a Chinese, 許書標 and all his family clan members are super rich too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaleo_Yoovidhya
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/24/worl ... -heir.html
A good example of being superrich, even if you are only the grandson of the clan.
Full text, click on the link above.
At least they paid compensation to his family as condolence money...not such a small sum for an ordinary Thai family...but this sum is nothing compared to their wealth, more likely just a tip.Just before dawn on a dark Bangkok street on a September night in 2012, a speeding Ferrari struck and killed a motorcycle police officer. The driver fled the scene, but a trail of leaking engine fluid led the police to his door — and the damaged Ferrari — a short distance away.
The police arrested the driver, Vorayuth Yoovidhaya, the grandson of the inventor of the Red Bull energy drink and heir to one of Thailand’s greatest fortunes. The police said at the time that he had been intoxicated and admitted that his car hit the officer, Wichean Glanprasert.
But in a case often cited as an example of the special treatment received by Thailand’s elite, Mr. Vorayuth was never brought to justice. He fled the country and has been living in luxury for years.
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Soon after the crash, Mr. Vorayuth’s family paid the police officer’s family nearly $100,000 in compensation and Mr. Vorayuth resumed his jet-set lifestyle, traveling around the world on private Red Bull jets, keeping a Porsche in London and staying in luxury hotels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chalerm_Yoovidhya
Chalerm Yoovidhya 許書恩 1950 is a Thai billionaire businessman and heir to the Red Bull fortune. As of 2020, Forbes estimates his net worth at US$20.2 billion.
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As I said already before in this thread in Thailand there is this sick idea that the foreigner (farang man) should pay for everything. It is up to you to say a clear NO, and if she does not like that let her go and look for somebody else. There is no difference if the woman and her family clan are rich or poor. Everywhere the same.
What you describe here is about the life style of very rich people where money is always available, almost unlimited, lost any connection to the real daily life - but the basic idea, that the farang should pay for everything does nevertheless exist. - Anyway, such rich women from such families are out of question for all of us in this forum.
Perhaps Chinese communities in Thailand never faced the same amount of hostility and were permitted to thrive. Or maybe, as it happened in Malaysia or Singapore, the Chinese families who migrated to Thailand were already wealthy and commanded much more authority. They already started high, essentially.
Whatever the cause, I wouldn't wanna hang out with a Thai woman whether she has a Chinese or native Thai upbringing. In fact, judging from what I heard about typical Chinese women, I wouldn't even consider a mainland Chinese girl for a long-term relationship. Maybe I am too spoiled by C and the girls I met here in the Philippines

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There was no real estate crash during covid-19 and the situation is improving again. However condominium units are plenty and often offered to a very low price. Quite cheap if you compare prices in Thailand with those in Malaysia and even Philippines.Jackfruits wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 2:53 pmAnd to be honest waiting for a real estate crash which I do expect very likely to buy a condo in Bangkok as well. Great place to stay not to find a wife. Do think long term I will stay in Thailand. Can go to other Asian countries to travel and keep a home base in BKK
Your advice is a very good one. Spot on!
I wrote similar comments in the past - first of all buy your condo unit wherever you like in Thailand. Thailand is not restricting you to buy it within a certain area and does not restrict your choice to buy only an upper class condo or house like in Malaysia.
Bangkok is not that bad either if you choose a location a bit outside the city - about myself I prefer Chonburi province because I like to be near the sea.
Bangkok is a good transfer point and to own your room there is nice if you like to travel around in Asia. You can easily continue from Bangkok with low airfare to many other countries nearby. Some people I know in Japan continued to travel to Nepal, Myanmar, Australia, Indonesia, Mauritius, India/Bangladesh - I sometimes continue after a rest in my rooms in Pattaya to Philippines, Cambodia and Malaysia.
I have no Thai related family and I have no intention to stay there for long-time, my rooms in Thailand are my second home, my holiday home. - I usually stay in Thailand in my rooms since my full retirement about 3 to 4 months a year, most of the time in winter, as I do not like cold weather.
As I am living in Japan, distance is not so far, flight-time about 5 hours and air-fare is not so expensive approx USD 300,- to 500,- for a return ticket depending on season, so I do the trip several times a year.
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Most Asian languages are rather complicated, either by using a totally different writing system (like Indian writings in Sri Lanka, Myanmar, Thailand, Cambodia) or spoken language in tonal form like Thai or Vietnamese, or because of their unusual grammer rules like Japanese and Korean etc.MarcosZeitola wrote: ↑October 5th, 2022, 12:21 amAs for Thai women? I love their food but their language is one of the ugliest I ever heard; it sounds like dogs barking to me. Some of their girls look fine but I never felt much about them either way. They seem to be highly materialistic which I despise. I prefer European girls to Thai ones.
Most people who have no relationship to these countries facing a hard time to study such languages. There is no easy way to learn them.
The only easy languages in Asia I think are likely only Indonesian/Malay and Tagalog.
If Asian women (Thai women or Filipina women or Japanese women etc.) or European women are better, you can discuss about it. Their life style is surely not the same, and the legal system of the country where they are living is quite different.
It depends all on the individual I think. You have to make a choice which you think is the best for you.
Some Western men tell me Japanese women and Japan in general are nothing but a horror, but I cannot complain and this since 45 years already. For me because of very bad experience in Europe - and not only because of women - I will never go back to that area again in my life...
My experiences in Malaysia with Chinese people are so 50/50, Philippine women might fit me better I would say - but the quality of life in Philippines is not the best, Thailand is clearly the better place to live, unfortunately to find a good Thai woman for a long-term relationship is not easy for a Western foreign man.
You have to decide for yourself what you want, 'happier abroad somewhere' or stay in your own native country. Up to you...there is no clear answer to that.
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You're my good little bitch boy.MarcosZeitola wrote: ↑October 5th, 2022, 12:21 amI think, judging by your interactions with me, that you are a mental midget. You cannot help that and you have every right to be the way God made you, but I think your existence would be more enjoyable if you calmed your titties and grew out of the habit of throwing tantrums like a toddler.
Thats what I think of you.
As for Thai women? I love their food but their language is one of the ugliest I ever heard; it sounds like dogs barking to me. Some of their girls look fine but I never felt much about them either way. They seem to be highly materialistic which I despise. I prefer European girls to Thai ones.
Favorite Cornfed quote: "Here's another one to reassure you lemmings that the ongoing humiliation ritual that is your ratshit life will soon be coming to an end."
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
Tsar: "Roastie foids"...."Instead of Happier Abroad more like Escortmaxxing Roasties Abroad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNHSiPFtvA
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my personal opinion; whole world is screwed due to apps, so wherever you go; better not find a wife via an app or site. need to make real normal friends and ask via them or meet them via a mutual interest. online can be a temporary solution only, so even with thailand and the western countries. Do you have more dates in Thailand with younger women? yes absolutely but also more that date you for your wallet at the same time. western women though very crap, will agree on that, take you less likely to the cleaners (depending where u guys find your ladies ofc, probably when you date hookers in the west this will happen to the old bums who did this).
Best solution I think wherever you date: dress nicely and get back into shape!
Best solution I think wherever you date: dress nicely and get back into shape!
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if the world would open up I would go back and date in russia but that's screwed too much as well, I do speak a bit russian and I do have russian and ukrainian male friends (depending they don't get blown to pieces) that could help me.
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Totally agree. I was thinking outskirts as well as I have to cough nonstop in center of BKK due to smog. My lungs are not used to the pollution. Was thinking Bang Na or somewhere near the red line train. But it's strange to say but outskirts condos are overpriced if something similar sized in more central part. So guess needs a big crash in this over speculated situation.Yohan wrote: ↑October 5th, 2022, 4:34 amThere was no real estate crash during covid-19 and the situation is improving again. However condominium units are plenty and often offered to a very low price. Quite cheap if you compare prices in Thailand with those in Malaysia and even Philippines.Jackfruits wrote: ↑October 4th, 2022, 2:53 pmAnd to be honest waiting for a real estate crash which I do expect very likely to buy a condo in Bangkok as well. Great place to stay not to find a wife. Do think long term I will stay in Thailand. Can go to other Asian countries to travel and keep a home base in BKK
Your advice is a very good one. Spot on!
I wrote similar comments in the past - first of all buy your condo unit wherever you like in Thailand. Thailand is not restricting you to buy it within a certain area and does not restrict your choice to buy only an upper class condo or house like in Malaysia.
Bangkok is not that bad either if you choose a location a bit outside the city - about myself I prefer Chonburi province because I like to be near the sea.
Bangkok is a good transfer point and to own your room there is nice if you like to travel around in Asia. You can easily continue from Bangkok with low airfare to many other countries nearby. Some people I know in Japan continued to travel to Nepal, Myanmar, Australia, Indonesia, Mauritius, India/Bangladesh - I sometimes continue after a rest in my rooms in Pattaya to Philippines, Cambodia and Malaysia.
I have no Thai related family and I have no intention to stay there for long-time, my rooms in Thailand are my second home, my holiday home. - I usually stay in Thailand in my rooms since my full retirement about 3 to 4 months a year, most of the time in winter, as I do not like cold weather.
As I am living in Japan, distance is not so far, flight-time about 5 hours and air-fare is not so expensive approx USD 300,- to 500,- for a return ticket depending on season, so I do the trip several times a year.
Maybe Phuket is another option but need to think of that one. A Russian friend loves Phuket as lots of russians stay there. Its cheap now and not too many tourists but I hate it when things like restaurants etc have overinflated prices due to tourists
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Yohan, great post, thank you.Yohan wrote: ↑October 3rd, 2022, 10:17 pm]
6 - Keep a good part of your savings outside of Thailand, but give your Thai girl - no need to marry - a daily allowance, something like baht 500,- (USD 15,-) - should not be less than that, but to give more depends on you (and not on her - disregard whatever she says for what reason she needs more money...)
I say it again - do not blame only Thai women, blame also foreign men who have no idea how to treat them!
You really caught me off guard with point #6 though which seems to recommend giving your thai girl a daily allowance of USD $15. I don't have personal experience in this situation yet but one would think she would certainly be 'using' you and viewing you as her personal ATM if you're giving her money everyday. It would seem more sensible to me to just handle the bills personally, if she needs reasonable things while shopping together then that seems fine. But to hand her money regularly and let her run off with it strikes me as a very bad idea.
Can you explain where you were coming from with this?
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I can only talk about my experience so far, what I have seen during my many stays in Thailand during more than 40 years.castlebasetone wrote: ↑October 22nd, 2022, 3:05 amYohan, great post, thank you.
You really caught me off guard with point #6 though which seems to recommend giving your thai girl a daily allowance of USD $15. I don't have personal experience in this situation yet but one would think she would certainly be 'using' you and viewing you as her personal ATM if you're giving her money everyday. It would seem more sensible to me to just handle the bills personally, if she needs reasonable things while shopping together then that seems fine. But to hand her money regularly and let her run off with it strikes me as a very bad idea.
Can you explain where you were coming from with this?
Let me say first, I am not talking about rich Thai women, they do not need foreigners, they are not interested into such a relationship.
I am talking about just simple Thai women who are still young (up to 35 or so), without higher education and about Western men, who have some money but are not so young anymore (50+).
If she is doing some regular work in a shop or factory or restaurant, or hotel etc. (and is not into nightlife) she will not earn much more than around baht 10.000,-, not over USD 300,- - salaries for women who own nothing and do simple work are low in Thailand.
Do not think a Thai woman will stay with such a foreign man for free. She expects not to work in future, but to have her own money nevertheless.
USD 15,- x 30 is USD 450,- per month, about baht 17.000,- (about 50 percent more than she can earn by herself) and if she stays with the foreign man she needs not to work, have her regular allowance, has still more money than if she is doing a job, no rent to pay for a little room, often foreign men live in a condominium with restaurant and swimmingpool, free food etc. - there are advantages, life with a foreign older man might be more comfortable than with a Thai boy of same age.
I know Western men from Europe and Thai women where this way of co-habitation really works since many years.
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If you don't give the Thai woman some money for herself, just going shopping with her etc. she will soon ask for extra money anyway - and if you buy her some items (know such a case about buying her a motorcycle) it will end up soon in a pawn shop.
All such Thai women need stict rules, always do as a foreign man what Thai men are doing. This is the money for you, not more but not less as allowance. - You are dissatisfied with my rules and money, up to you, leave me.
Never give in to additional financial requests from Thai women, but keep your promise to give her a regular allowance.
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