Russia's Invasion of Ukraine, aka "Putin's Special Operation"

[Winston]

I don't get why Ukrainians are willing to give up their lives for land. That's a stupid senseless trade. No way is land more valuable than human life. Also it's stupid that European leaders won't compromise with Putin or make any concessions. All they want is total victory.

So if China invades Taiwan and starts killing people Taiwan should just give their land to China? That sets a precedent that one nation can just take over another nation by killing people.

If Ukraine gives into putin he is just going to keep going - the rest of Ukraine and other nations. Poland, Moldova, Latvia, Estonia and more.

You gotta think these things through.

Also Ukrainians don't want to live under Russian tyranny. Some of them do but most do not

There's no evidence that Putin wants to capture more European countries. That's paranoid fearmongering. Even if he wanted to, he doesn't have the power or manpower to do it. His army is inept and not as good as Hitler's. If he can't even capture Kyiv, how can he capture all of Europe? That makes no sense and is a contradiction that Prof. Jeffrey Sachs and Prof. John Mearsheimer have pointed out many times. So the EU leaders don't make sense. They claim Putin can't take Kyiv, but he can take all of Europe? That's a discrepancy.

Either way, there's no logic in sacrificing lives for land. Land is not that big of a deal. One can just move abroad. You don't own the land, so why would you die for it? Only brainwashed NPCs think that way and would die for nothing. Self-aware beings don't do that.

You either live under a foreign tyranny or a local tyranny. There's no difference. Especially in America. Mel Gibson pointed this out in the movie "The Patriot" from 2000.

[Voyager1]

Not everyone can just 'move abroad'. Many have family ties, property and work.

What you're saying just encourages nations to indiscriminately bomb civilian populations so they can obtain land, which is exactly what putin is trying to do. he thinks that by killing civilians - babies, toddlers, women, children that Ukraine is going to capitulate and give up their land.

Zelensky would be ill-advised to make any land swap deal. putin has never kept his word.